I cried the rain that fills the ocean wide.....

Thank you for the update...

Amazing!

10/10

For ones who are lazy to click and to find what Scawen said.

Scawen said:
"Today I thought I'd just have a look at this thread, but there are too many new pages for me to read in detail. Anyway, you may be assured we have not stopped development. I guess if we stopped development then we'd make a post about it. I'm not sure how that would happen, maybe if I got run over or contracted a fatal illness or perhaps someone will come and offer me a flight to the moon but I have to train at NASA for a couple of years. Unlikely, and there's really nothing better I can do than work on this simulator. I just don't want to write about every step on the development path, so that's why there is a long time between progress reports."


Keep cool and stay calm. I'm sure we will be impressed for the update. I'm kind of hot-tempered person too, but I can wait for this.

Let developers do their job. I will wait until 2012, if there is no major update till then, I may start moaning. And I dont' want to be moaning for this, devs.

You've committed suicide.

I wish for LFS SDK with track creating feature included. So we can put custom tracks on our servers. Like a downhill course.

Well, I just wish(plz don't blame me for that downhill idea thingy). Wouldn't it be good if it comes out like that? :P

And I really wish for a car like XRT but more Turbo boost and harder to control since it has more power.

Quote from silvio011 :

Well, first sorry for my english if you dont understand anything, i will now why .

I need a full tuning mod for XFG, i mean... Cool Interior, Nice Engine Sounds, Cool wheel, Headlight and Tailight, Textures, All if you can.

I think that i am not the only person what need that

Thanks

Just google it by "lfs mod" and take your own risk using non-official files.

Quote from Harri K. :

good setup = super hacked setup = cheat ?

:bowdown:

Great Vid!! I lol'ed @ announcers. Good drift

Quote from brandons48 :

And drifting, and some close touge racing


Don't turn this into a drifters/racers flamewar..

It really is!

It seems like more debating is going so far, not just suggestions anymore.

Ones who want to have more steering lock try to explain why do they need(including me that want it). And ones who don't need it can say anything because they just don't need it. I'm one of LFS fans and I just need to know that having more steering lock is that bad for circuit racing? Do you really think having more lock will ruin LFS? You think ones with more steering lock will take advantage in a circuit racing or F1 racing?

I don't know if I say this will make me being a retarded for someone who think ones who want to have more steering locks are retarded. But I and my friends bought S2 License becuase we love drifting, well we cannot afford to have any real cars for drifting. We chose to bought S2 because we tried demo and think THIS IS THE BEST Sim ever made. And sure......we are fine with it for now, but having more steering lock for some cars will be better for any drifters. Please,...will you be more kindly suggest and stop treating ones who just want to have more steering locks like kids that just want to have a toy?

I just want to know why when someone is asking "If there is any reallife cars with xxx lock, bla bla" and ones answered "there is bla bla." then ones who asked will answer "because bla bla bla bla, so don't need it". And the loops are started again.

I saw many loops in this thread which are just the same and it will be repeating 'til we "bla bla" for sure.

I just said what I think, never want to clash against ones who don't want it. And sure I want........ just suggest.

ps. I vote for "Having more steering lock".

Quote from LILSTIG :

Dude! Not All Racers in LFS has money to have fun with S2! We people who really want to have S2 but can't have to suffer with crashers and noobs to just play on a single track! Can you Figure how boring it is everyday just wishing that you could have S2 For 2-3 days! It is pretty sad for those who are unfortunate to suffer just bcos they cant contribute to LFS... You are so lucky to have money to contribute to LFS. You should at least give a damn about others who really want to but cant. your like boasting around saying "ooo I got S2 And those who dont contribute MUST suffer" sorry if this was a bit to straight forward but i am very pissed with people like you... Sorry for my bad Language (as in bad words)

I tried to have enough money to buy. My known person wasn't able to buy too, he couldn't afford it with his income rate(we live in Thailand). But he saves 10-20baht/day(1USD = 33baht) and now he got S2 License and even Logitech DFP.

Unlimited time to try any games or softwares with limited content is the solution for ones who cannot afford the full version. Atleast you still be able to play LFS til now.

Ones who want something that they couldn't afford should try hardest or harder from what they are doing and get what they really need.

Doing bad things will never be good at least for some"one", may it's good for self.

Honestly, I didn't buy all games stored in my PC. But I try not to hurt the developers by buying all games I love and currently playing and I'm sure I will buy more if I could afford them. Lucky, I only play games I love. LFS is one of them too.

ps. I'm regarding this topic. Why wouldn't you make a new threat to debate for legit ones vs pirated ones.

Did you test it in G25 Control Panel by Control Panel > Game Controller > Logitech G25 > Properties and see if your H shifter is working fine or not. If it is, maybe logitech profiler problems or if it isn't, try uninstall G25 driver and software and install it again and if it still doesn't work, it's a wheel problem. But I think it's just a software-level problem.

Wish you can fix it soon!!

ps. sorry for my english

Now I'm using 630 steering lock for XR GT Turbo with 900d turns !! It fits my handling.

Quote from Crash Dummy :

All cars have a different turn rate on the wheel when compared to different models. A Mazda RX7 doesn't have the same steering turn rate as a truck.

I'll give a perfect real life example. My real life car has a maximum turning lock on the wheel of 3.8 turns, That is 1368 degees! For a low speed tight left hand corner I need a full turn of steering lock to get around it. Basicly any kind of corner requires quite a bit of a turn on the wheel.

Another example. Mitsubishi Gallant VR4. Has IIRC 2.5 turns of steering lock. 900 degrees same as a G25. To turn that thing required very little steering lock, around a quarter to 3/5th's of a turn to make the same corner.

It's all reletive. The steering sensitivity when using a G25 feels very much like a sports car's steering rack and is quite fast.

To the opening poster. Something you may not have realised is that many cars have a variable ratio steering rack so they may be very slow around centre and then get more sensitive as you turn further or vice versa. If you find that steering is just too sensitive in LFS around centre you can go into the logitech profile and adjust the sensitivity.

To do this make a profile for Live for Speed. Once that is done click on Steering Wheel as one of the controls and it'll pop up a window that lets you change the sensitivity, dead zone and range of that controller axis. Decrease the sensitivity and it'll make the wheel less sensitive around centre. As you turn further you will get more steering input as you turn further and further.

Great info and very useful! Big Thanks

All Hail LFS !!!

I'm glad.

Quote from geeman1 :

Probably not any time soon. The Force Feedback motors are too slow to handle 900 degrees properly as it is. Having even more degrees would make it worse.

Also outside the hardcore simming community (quite small minority) there is not really a demand for more degrees. 900 degress came popular because it had the Gran Turismo series' backing.

Thank you for info.

Quote from Eleanor SpeedGT :

Real cars have 720 degrees steering.

For mine and my known person's, japanese cars. I got 11xx, I think.

Quote from AndroidXP :

Just set the steer lock lower so it fits whatever you perceive to be correct?

You are my life saver. I never noticed before that lower this will less first circle steering sensitivity. I though this will make my max steering degree lower. So I never set it below than 720.

Now I set it to 630 and it's fine........Thanks

I wonder if there will be a gaming wheel available @ 1100-1200d.

Any adjustments? please.....I already know that cars got 1100d or more, but isn't there a way to do something about this?

I don't know if I'm the only one who is expriencing this.......I'm just feeling that wheel sensitivity(G25 @ 900 Degrees) is a bit higher than real car. I play lfs for years and still feel as the same as at the first time I started using my G25 with LFS since Aril 2007.

It's like when you drive in real life you have to turn your wheel for 75-100d for L corner, but in lfs with G25 you have to turn only for 45-75. I'm sure my settings are correct and I recalibrate my axes since 2 years ago and nothing is different. I'm sure I'm using full 900 Degrees with correct ratio to the left end and right end of steering.

But when I use my G25 on other games, they are just fine. But I love LFS so I play only LFS for years and when I'm driving the real cars I lose my driving confidence because I have to turn my wheel more than playing with G25 in LFS. I don't drive real car often, I drive in LFS more. And I don't want to stop playing LFS, so I started this topic for any helps that would cure my bad feeling.

Am I feeling this way alone? I would appreciate for any suggestions....
Thanks

ps. sorry for my english

+1

It will be ok if xrt has a 2bar turbo.:shrugkidding haha)

+1
It would be good to have more steering lock on XRT or other FR cars.

Just burn tyres for 45 degrees lock , I didn't request more bhp.


I'm a customer who buy LFS S2 for drifting with G25. LFS is good enough for me now and It's fun already , but it would be more more more and more fun for drifters if the steering lock degrees increase.

ps. just a little man's hope

This is great , Thankssssssss for sharing

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I'm new to this forums. I tried demo version for too long time and I decided to buy the S2 License , and I just got it 2 minutes ago very glad to play full version of this simulator !! bcuz it's great & realistic.

hmm.....and I'm from Thailand.

I love to read many stuffs here , it's useful and I can learn too many things here !+_!@)+= , really love you guys