in drifting they usually toughen the engine up too a large degree and the rev limiters are set higher - mad mikes probably one of the highest rev limits set in drifting with his triple rotor 10,000 rpm.

i know a couple of guys who have race cars (1984 FB rx-7 and an r32 gtr) they have removed the rev limiter because they dont see the point of having it any more, there shift light is set too the optimum change and they never devert from it unless doing a massive burn out. the rev limiter for them they see as a waste of space

mad mikes RX-7 from the NZ Drift series revs his engine constantly at around 10,000 RPM he has had the same engine with no troubles or major work for over a year now. so dont say that drifters dont use the high RPM, you can hear how much they are reving it.

i dont drift much in LFS since the patch and getting my car back from being tuned. i have my own car that i do circuit racing and drifting in so u can think what ever you want but its bs and you dont know anything about me so keep your bs too yourself.

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if you want too talk about realism have you ever been in a real life race car? i have been in a lot of different types of cars some mildly moded others fully moded and none of them are limited that low

wikkepedia is generally unrealiable and untrustworthy but i know all about rev limiters. race cars have shift lights so that they know the best time too change for a proffesional this makes the rev limiter obsolete and a waste of weight (every gram helps)

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Quote from dennisgtr32 :

Their 2006 stock corolla is newer than the XRT. The XRT is build in game to be a early 90's car. There is also not mentioned that your car break down just becouse you rev high, but you lower your engines lifetime with years every time you rev over the actual revlimiter. The rev limiter is there on cars to tell you that its is enough. They are there to save your engine a few years of living.

what is pathetic is that you trying to do a nfs of lfs... -,-'

i dont want LFS too be arcade or unrealistic at all, i want it too be more realistic. i have never been in a race car or performance road car (from that era) thats rev limiter is set as low as the one in LFS.

i would like too see LFS with everything being adjustable one day, but for now an adjustable rev limiter would keep everyone happy

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my parents 2006 stock toyota corolla can rev higher than the XRT Turbo now that is pathetic in my opinion

second rotaries have been smeered by piston based companies, everyone thinks they are a lot more unreliable than they actually are. my car is 18 years old and i get it serviced every 10,000kms and it costs no more than a normal car to service. it runs smooth as and its very fast

third sure its not made for drifting but it shouldnt go out too ruin it considering half the reason i bought it is because its such a good game too drift on, i like racing too and i dont see why people need such a low rev limit, just learn too change your gears properly

fourth real life drift cars are able too adjust everything in their car too make drifting easier to maintain

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Quote from Woz :

In X is was too high but now it is about RIGHT!

THERE IS NO ENGINE TUNING IN LFS. STOP PRETENDING THERE IS.

You can't tune your engine in LFS to allow higher revs.

LIVE WITH IT!!!!

im not talking about engine tuning but power could be kept in those higher rev ranges, but the current rev limiter instantly drops your revs down too the rev limit. the current rev limit is too low. i have never been in a car that has a rev limit 1 bar after the redline (FC and FD rx7s, skylines, silvias, supras) i have seen all these cars doing 7-8k revs around corners with out blowing their engines after a full day of drifting at external temps of 38 celcius in the shade they are in the sun

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Quote from dennisgtr32 :

Don't come and tell me those cars in game should not have a rev limiter couse if you wanna drive on 11k revs and still accel as fast as on 5k rev go to NFS or something. A car hase a torque-curve, that means it have a peak when it has most power then it goes down. Mostly 4,5-5k revs on the most stock cars. Therefore you have lost so much power at the rev limiter that its pointless being there. As soon as you know where the peak is you should gear-up just after it. And if you rev at the rev limiter on your RX-7 then bad for you when you are in the middle of a corner locking your tires since your motor just been totaled.

im not talking about accelerating at 11k revs im talking about being able too keep power at 7-8k. lol reving at 7-9k revs while going around a corner locking is called drifting my friend and no my engine is still fine. you need those high revs too keep long drifts

i have done 9k revs in my rx7 with out problems many times, engine is still sweet but rotaries are better than pistons.

no rotary in LFS wish there was but thats a different topic and like lemans people would probably whinge untill it was removed

i said they blow up now and again but not all of them if they are set up and maintained right, they are usually the beginers cars that blow - and occasionally something goes wrong and the car runs lean or missfires these are occasional problems any motorsport driver faces. most will run no problems doing drift comps all day and not have any problems. any car can have problems and blow the engine - especially in Aus on 38-40 degree celcius (100+ fahrenheit) most them run fine all day even with those temps. so yea i dont think engine damage is as bad as you think. some engines have lasted seasons with out any major work done too them, that is my point about engine damage.

you cant tune it to keep pumping power in redline that was a miswording on my part. but the way you set up the gears allows you too keep power in the redline to continue the longer drifts (the long corner on Aston Cadet reverse after the S bend) in the old one the power would remain and you could continue the drift all the way through, in the current one you run out of power before you get too the end of the corner, i can still do it but it doesnt feel as good as it did before and the lack of removing the rev limiter is frustrating.

in patch X it was too high but now its way too low

i wish there was a rotary powered car in LFS but thats a different topic

Last edited by NanG, Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:45.

i have done drifting myself in my RX7 (rotary bit different) and have gone well past my redline while drifting around corners with no damage too my engine, but many of the drifters where i live use piston engines, sure they do blow every now and again, but most of them go for a year with no major rehaul or just minor problems. i think the ammount of damage done by over reving is not quite as bad as most people think, if the engine has been designed, set up and maintained properly. all drift cars will be going over red line quite a lot some need more maintenance than others, it depends on how tough the engine is

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

Ok, name me some road cars that have adjustable (from stock by an end user easily) limiters?
Done trying?

its only newer cars that have rev limiters and personally i wouldnt buy a car with them. im sure its not easy too adjust but it is usually easy too remove them (buy a new ECU pay for a tune done)

Last edited by NanG, Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:02.

i still think the current rev limiter on all the lower cars is unrealistic and annoying. i do racing and drifting a lot on LFS (and real life) and when i get sick of that i do a burn out

i love the new physics and mechanics of Patch Y but the rev limiter ruins drifting in my opinion, ok so you dont have more power but tuning the car right you can keep the power in drifting after the red line. with the new patch you cant keep that higher end power because the car cant get too the higher revs.

i also find it unrealistic with the current rev limiters and the lack of ability too change where the limit is. most race cars (i know a lot of real life race car drivers) dont even bother putting one in their car, they find it more annoying than helpful. i can understand the high end full race set up cars being limited but the lower end cars shouldnt be, or allow people too change the limiter too their desire.

i would like too be able too turn off the rev limiter or at least make it fully adjustable (so it seems like it is off) i think the adjustable rev limiter is the better option so that it pleases all sides off the fence. (racers long distance and short distance, drags and driters)

i find the current rev limiter has gone way too low, if you can tune the car too keep power after the redline but your car cant go over the redline because of the limiter is quite annoying

flamers here is a spot where you can come and flame away instead of wasting other peoples topic space

so come one come all and leave everyone else to have useful conversations on peoples topics

Quote from CodieMorgan :

^^^^ Im afraid I agree with Ian's point of view!


But I would've said just one word instead.....



noob

seriously all you flamers need to grow up and shut up

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Quote from Hankstar :

It's not "harder" at all - it's just different. In fact it's so different to racing that a comparison isn't even justified.

point taken they are different sports (i think speed skating is better and harder as well jokes) but out of my own personal experience i find it easier to do normal circuit racing than drifting.

as for can any car drift for 2 hours, no and neither could the driver. and being from australia, i much prefer 2 intense heart racing laps than 2 hours of extreme heat, but then again that might be partly due to a short attention span

now back to the - AE86, RX7, Silvia and Skyline or some other drifting car idea's since we have gone wayyy off topic.

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moderators plz delete this post, and maybe make an option to change the topics requesting that a post get deleted

to the flamers, seriously how hard is it to ignore someone's mistake and just not post ???

to the people who informed me that i made a mistakes (without being insulting or just flaming) sorry for this topic, i did make it in haste without taking the time to read the other posts (due to being out in the desert with ultra slow internet).

this is the first forum in years where i have had to deal with flamers, and i apologize for some of the comments made in haste.

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hi guys, saw a vid on youtube looked cool checked it out, gonna play demo for a bit.

looks awsem, good job