Quote from franc51 :

I think this is enough.

I wanted to stop long time ago, but the bombshells(stupid ones) keeps coming back.

Quote from cargame.nl :

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Ah new page! .. So what are you doing here in 2015 already? Go to this other sim. It's not so difficult is it?

So you used the "Why are you even here?" argument. Congratulations!

By the way we are in 2016 Thanks for the laughter

http://prntscr.com/dnhck8

By the way, I buy what's worth its money, thnx steam sales and yes already played them all

Also do you want to know why I don't bought AC, PCars and all that yet? Because I still don't have money to even get a proper machine to run them. Is it an stupid reason?

Last edited by Cyandic, Sat 24 Dec 2016, 18:12.

Quote from herki :

Eh.
At this point I'd have to agree, S3 is not really worth the money. S2 was, at the point of the release however, and I don't regret buying either. But sure, LFS feels dated these days. From the standpoint of graphics, Project CARS and Assetto Corsa overshadow it easily.
But at some point over the last decade, I feel like the focus on our dear devs' lives has shifted from being commited to development to other things; it's gotten rather silent around LFS. It's kind of a shame, since I prepaid S3 nearly 10 years ago now, but not much has come out of it so far, but I'm always ready got surprised by exciting news.
So all in all: Worth the price, S3 today? Probably not. S2 back in the day? Definitely.

Just my 2 cents on that matter.

Indeed in 2007 it was worth its price of course, but I only knew about LFS in 2010 and many other racing sims cameout, making me undecided in what to choose, then in 2013 it already had more appealing racing sims than LFS.

That's the whole point we're trying to reach in a civilized way, the ship already sunk and kept underneath until now, but most of them see it floating which is an illusion.

I wonder herki...I wonder if it'll come an exciting update, my hopes are low on that.

Lets see the excuses/stupid arguments seen here:
"Why are you even here?"
"YOU DIDN'T BOUGHT IT YOU STUPID SO YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID"
"YOU CHEATED SO YOUR OPINION IS INVALID STFU"
"LFSP is killing the game"
"LFS is dead because of crack users"
"LFS is worth its price due to its quality + le physics"
"Your argument is just invalid(just to send a meme of that lelelelel)"
"While there's no content coming out why not be creative?(Sure everyone did almost everything from real life with this current limited content)

Comparisons(which I found them so ridiculous ):
LFS lifetime <> Mins of having pleasure with a Hooker.
Stealing <> Piracy(obviously you don't know shit when someone is doing that so trying to stop it is idiotic).


Now you're trying to swing back and forth troughout arguments that has been already discussed about.

Quote from jujek :

Do You find new hobby? Please stop ruin that game anymore. We all want to see finished LFS but you why do that you want to ruin that great game you have 33 years and you don't understant this? THIS WAS WRONG WHAT YOU DO i hope you don't do it again please leave this game and better put your skills into nfs world if you will bring back to life nfs world online will be so nice becouse ea don't support this game anymore so you can reopen this will be a lot better for everyone than ruin LFS again. Thanks

You dumb **** AHAHAHAHAHAHAAH NFS world is dead for good, not to mention its DRM, also blackbox got ditched which was taking care of the game in 2012, after that it went into a shithole well covered, bricked and far from being put in some private server.

No thanks I don't want NFS world nice try(not really).

Last edited by Cyandic, Sat 24 Dec 2016, 05:06.

Quote from Eclipsed :

Have fun with iPaying! Why they are "more competent"? Because they have huge staff in promotion alone - they know how to sell their stuff. What you won't find in advertisements is that iRacing is based on engine which is about same old as LFS's one,with polished up graphics. Also while you drool at advertisements promising tons of cars and tracks,you might not notice that you have to buy all the content and then pay subscription to be able to use it. No subscription - no chance to race. So you will end in endless cycle where you pay subscription so you can use bought content,and race all the time as you don't want to pay subscription for nothing. And you know what? At the end you're the one,who pays salary to promotion staff and everyone else. Yes,it's a perfect busness module if you're working at iRacing. It's also good for players,who cannot afford real racing as iRacing is few hundred bucks cheaper then real racing,so at the end you even save! (ups,I should ask money from iRacing for this good advertisement )

Did I said I wanted to pay for it? NO I just said its more appealing and welcoming to new players gezz, someone named it out(cargame.nl relating with piracy), making me take a look at it, am I forbidden? By the way stop trying to be funny.

Quote from Bmxtwins :

You can't compare iRacing and LFS. The cost of LFS is equal to 3 cars on iRacing. That is disregarding the $100 yearly subscription. All you just succeeded in doing is making yourself look like a further cheap bastard. Unwilling to spend $45 for life on a game, but "$200+ a year looks appealing".

And yes, I read what you are saying, and it's downright idiotic. I agree that LFS' price should be decreased or put on sale, but stealing it because it is not does not make it OK.

Same for you, I just said it looked more appealing I won't pay for it specially yearly, I'm just comparing in terms of development progress also I suggested the SALES + steamworks some pages back including others.

As mcmustang said before don't pull the "stealing" card ok? We're not trying to bring piracy back.

Quote from mcmustang :

Stop pulling out the "money","stealing" and "want to bring lfsp back" card. Just think about it, is LFS appealing to new players?
And are they willing to pay for license?
Does the game offer a way to test the stuff that each license offers (except for using cracked version)?

I'll answer it for you, to new players in 2016...no, mostly the pricetag works like bug poison, it'll scare away new people, so the answer is obvious, they wont.
Do you really think they're going to let us try the license stuff?

Now for everyone:
I've checked the so blessed piracy-free iRacing and for me it looks way more appealing to new players, not to mention they're more competent in terms of nowadays videogaming industry competition, you wanted to hear it there you go LFS will loose to the new racing SIM titles coming out if it keeps this way, sorry.

@Bmxtwins you obviously have no idea what's happening here, have you even read what we such "criminal" exLFSP players said? Please.

Also don't pull out the "keyboard warrior" card, I would have said the same crap in person in front of an audience because its true.

Last edited by Cyandic, Thu 22 Dec 2016, 20:13.

Quote from R1hard :

Who is being mature now? You can hate me as much as you want but it wont change the reality.
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Actually... I can download music and movies as much as I want, as long as its for my own use. It is against the law to earn from it or share it. A la I downlaod a move, burn it, then sell it or get ps6 and start photoshopping for money. You should get up to date with laws... And no, I didn't say it's equal to stealing so bose321 & co you can save you inadequate comparisons to yourself.

Yeah, they must be downloading a movie/music for their own use right now, but they will come and say "Nooo. I've bought it YOU STUPID" yeah sure.

EDIT: cargame.nl & co think about what chobit said, we're not killing the game because its on the wrong path long time ago and its a fact<- for the 900000th time.

Quote from cargame.nl :

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Same with this piracy thing, you know what the consequences are if you do the piracy move. It's utterly ridiculous to come to the official environment and demand it back. I never seen this happen on any game/sim platform in the world.

(...)sadly most of the time I read silly arguments like I played this sim for YEARS but 24 pounds is way too expensive! I used the comparison before, going to do it again, go to a hooker and ask for 24 pounds of pleasure and the response will be defined in minutes, not years.

The problem is here, LFS maybe never receives an update anymore because of piracy. If a pirated environment gets bigger then the official environment it's dead. I realized this so this is the reason why my servers are offline. It has no point anymore to invest time in LFS because the future is dead. No new tracks, physics or cars can change this. Only a drastic change in multiplayer policy would help, something which kills piracy. Like I-racing is doing.

What's the next comparison apart from stealing irl/**** a hooker? That food for a whole month isn't as good as LFS for a lifetime?

That's right this discussion is just getting ridiculous and some of the so blessed legit players are trying to dodge the whole point because their excuses/stupid comparisons are being stomped one by one.

By the way, we don't want LFSP back like chobit said, for the 2nd time, we want a good future for it, but I guess punchlines and excuses/comparisons will always come.

"Lets let them steal LFS so we can act like cops eksdeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
" <- Yes, Im paroding one of you here.

Quote from Eclipsed :

But it's good enough to steal and demand to developers return of the pirated server/website?

... You clearly didn't read carefully what chobit said and thought carefully what we said/wanted, and please comparing piracy with stealing something in real life is **** stupid, we cleary ONCE in our lifes used pirated software, but ofc never stole goods from an actual store like an pure knob, and that's a fact, once again.

If this excuses keep floating around I'll be around here


EDIT: After what R1hard said I fully praise his opinion so the rest who gets trough this rationally
Racon, please he's not defending his sins *facedesk*

Quote from mcmustang :

Congratulations for being thick as two short planks...
http://prnt.sc/dm245p
http://prntscr.com/dm23xg
And he isn't the only one who still kept playing on pereulok after getting license.


Stealing? Please, how can you talk about money that weren't his to begin with. It's the other way around, if you want to your game to sell well you have to find a way to steal the money from the costumers. If it weren't for pereulok I would have quit LFS in 2011.

Same here, I started playing LFS in 2010(the demo ofc) I liked it, but the price just killed me, still played single player with the unlocker method until 2012 then left, after 3 years when I heard about those crazy ip-patch methods and Pereulok, I cameback. And pls don't bring me the bullshit "YOU LIKE SO BUY IT" this is an exception.

Quote from cargame.nl :

The problem is that they already know this and had this. Without paying anything. It's called stealing but for some reason it is legit if you are from Brasil or some Arab country because -insert silly reason here- .

Although, I have to admit, it's not easy to buy LFS legal in some parts of the world (like Brasil). I saw someone suggesting, I think it was Degats, that any bank account can be linked with Paypal. But this is not true, this is only possible in some countries, not all. And if it's possible they use crazy high service rates, like 30-40% or something. (I know this because I needed to buy S3 vouchers for some Romanian friends and Romania is even in the damn EU!).

If you need to go through a lot of hassle to buy a product while at the same time it's very easy to get online on an illegal platform.. Why bother? The problem is now that the illegal environment got way bigger. Lets face it, the official environment is dead, completely dead. Not a little bit dead, Scawen, but completely dead. And this doesn't get magically revived with the release of a new car, new physics and/or tracks. More then this needs to be done, it needs to be released on Steam .. Not because of marketing (although it's a nice side effect) but because it's a worldwide paying platform where everybody can buy without any hassle a voucher/license. Without these actions life is not coming back in LFS because the illegal environment will keep finding it's own ways to get around the paying problem.

The easier you make the payment the easier people buy stuff (stuff which people most of the time actually don't even need).


stop try to make this North Korea. As long as discussions are civilized why block it. So it can be dead here again like the rest of this year?

The paying method is the main issue, where I live I have "paysafe" which I ONLY have access to "CTT correios", the only method I trust as this moment around, never ripped me off.

In the environment part I couldn't agree more, this game isn't updated in years some valuable players actually went inactive due of that also kept his ridiculous price, moving it into steam would increase the chances of reviving it due to good sales + easier paying methods(including mine) but eh? who listens here? no...one... We're going to sit and watch this derrail carriage by carriage.

I think I'll just stop reading this topic I'll take my leave.

cargame.nl, mcmustang thanks for being polite on this topic so the rest I know that also replied here

Quote from Eclipsed :

Don't like it,don't buy it,why the critisism? Buy Forza if it's so good,where's the problem?

Indeed, if I wasn't having financial issues I'd rather buy a brand new console + the new horizon 3 because I know new content will come, unlike here.

Why the BLIND criticism?

We're not saying to give the game for free, we're not trying to disvalue the concept of the game, the main issue is that the game is currently overpriced on what is worth, and it updates very slowly too slow for my taste, I apologize.

Also, so called legit players, are you telling us to pay for finished licenses that won't be able to access new future content and servers that will soon change to S3 when it'll recieve more tracks that honestly will never come and you really think we're going for S3 with no teasers or vague ideas at all? AFTER A DEDACE FOR ALMOST NOTHING?!

Where's the scirocco which was announced in 2008? Also working a decade for rockingham is normal? Answer me!

Also, in order to a game to get bigger, needs more people to work on it, that's why big titles blew off the charts, Forza Horizon series is the biggest exmaple.

Honestly this is getting ridiculous, I admit I played on cracked servers as well, recieved monthly bans but I could still access the cracked servers anyway

-Farewell, tell me when good updates like a pack of tracks/pack of cars comes, also packs with at least 10 to compensate this decade of almost zero activity.