R0ut66, why are you posting links to a cracked community? Where's Scawen to ban him? That mo.....re or less present admin.

And r0ut got the question. He proved everything. Let's burn "skinzinho" til he cries blood.

Quote from R0ut66 :

BRLok...
Another type of unlocker that will destroy LFS Comunity.
The owner? Skinzinho (S3 Licensed)

You should have proofs of this

But in your case, crying is free


EDIT:

And God saw that I tried to contact the developers

Last edited by oladraodecc, Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:30.

Quote from Scawen :

Hi, I'm not really being aggressive. I noticed you have been taking an interest in the cracked community things, and I've been a bit disturbed by it today. It's harsh when you are working hard then someone comes and takes away some of your pay.

Anyway, being serious, we don't have any possibility of hiring people or giving people a job. We are happy going on as usual, developing Live for Speed at our own pace. We have no interest in running a company, or working with employees.

I know exacly how do you feel. You're not the first nor the last to have a job "copied". About job, I was just trying a way to contact you. Not really want a job

I don't feel confortable talking about some specific stuffs regarding a cracked master server here, and I think you also don't want to have things like this exposed here. But we still needing to talk. I won't ask you for money or a job, but about this community.

Quote from Scawen :

OK, here is a job for you:

Please go to the new Brazilian crack site and ask them to close down the operation. We think we should earn money for the work we do. We work hard to make a game that many people love. If we don't get paid for it, we'll have to stop developing Live for Speed and get another job.

I can't pay you for this job, we are a small team and we don't hire employees. But I'd be grateful if you would pass on the message. Thanks.

Why so aggressive? o.O

I'll pass through, don't worry. Why don't you send me a PM?

I really wanna talk to Scawen, but he never reply me

Scawen, do you have a job for me?

Hey Scawen, do you have a job for me?

Quote from joaoadao :

skinzinho is not onwer is a co-onwer

Bullshit. He is the owner.

Quote from Scawen :

Thanks, we have the direction to create this sim you love.

I asked you "Do you think we should be paid for the work we do?".

You can't answer that.

Are you a child? If you are an adult, maybe you will work and you would understand that it's not possible to work if you don't get paid. You are either a child or a fool.

Do you have a job for a unlucky man?

Grandma was killed.

Receiving info from them. No, don't slap me dad.

Received all info about them. World must know.

Government agents. Blue. Red. Red. Magenta. White.

Got strike. We cannot trace back now. It's done. Master is pointing away from Milky Way. Old scene.

Loopback transfer. No more blood. Hearth removed from her body. Hear the voice from the frog. Lighiting.

End of transmission.

If you see CLRS530 post, will you know exactly what I mean with TOXIC COMMUNITY WHICH DOES NOT ACCEPT OPINIONS.

Few days ago, the most important cracked community decided to turn off. I wont talk about their reason and/or if they did the right thing or not. I would like to talk about facts.

Scawen, one of LFS developers, said that Pereulok became a big problem when it had more players than the original LFS (non-cracked master server). Everybody on both sides has their own argument to play on cracked or original LFS. But Pereulok used to had more players than original, and do you know why? I have some theories about:


- Price

Yep. As brazilians who created some threads said, price is one (or the most related) thing that interfeer directly on how many people are playing LFS. 45 US Dollars for a "old" game is too much. It's almost the same price of brand new games, not considering Steam special offers.

I remember Scawen said something like buying licenses will support game development. I agree, but who will pay 45 bucks for a slowly updated game? I think, if he really wanna bring players from Pereulok to S2/S3, he should consider lower the price on next days (temporary), and give a chance for players to play legit. Is better to have 50 purchases at half price than 5 at full.



- Updates

It involves also pricing. But let me talk few words about my background on LFS. I've playing this game since 2004, and bought my first license in 2005. I know about this game more than some people who started last year and has 10k posts on this forum.

Anyway... Updates on LFS are really poor. I mean, real mirrors are cool and bring a improved player experience, but ask the community. What their prefeer? New track, maybe a new car set (not necessary to be real cars like VWS), or the incredible mirror system?

I remember around 2008, 2009 when developers said about Scirocco. I don't wanna bring this subject back, but the players who were playing at that time remember how the community reacted. I remember a lot of people playing and talking about the new car, new physics.

This (real updates) is what keep the community interested on the game. Since 2010, the important updates were Westhill improvement and Rockingham. Maybe we can consider another 2 or 3 features.

Scawen, please consider real updates, to make the money worth the license.



- Community

Actual community is toxic. Hell yeah. Servers are the same, with same players, saying the same things. Nobody give a chance for new servers to grow. If someone plays on server A, he still playing there and does not matter if server B opened yerterday with new features (aka InSim, organization, events, and go on).

It make the servers quantity drop and consequently the community to drop as well. If the only server available for drift/race/cruise/drag/whatever is A, and I got banned from A or I don't like A admins, I will just stop to play online.

Also, the community does not accept suggestions from itself. I met a lot of players who simple does not accept when I say "I don't like server B because....". Doesn't matter if I'm right, or if I have rights to express my opinion. They simply ban because there's no server to connect (as I said, limited options) and there's no way to change my license without spending money (as Pereulok allows).



I'm posting as a Demo because as I said, community is toxic. I don't want to get a ban from some servers, or even lose my account because Swaven... Anyway. There's some players who really still fighting to improve LFS community. I can say a few names and I'm posting to these players.

Scawen, please consider the opportunity Pereulok gave to you closing his Master Server. I... We don't want to see LFS ending, but in opposite, see this game really growing as it should grow, considering its potential and active but small community.

Again, I don't want to apology Cracked servers. But in the way LFS is going today, the players on next years will be found only on these kind of servers.