"Extreme" islamic sites such as revolutionmuslim.com keep saying that Daniel Pearl was a spy. Why the hell are they keep saying that? What's the proof and reasoning behind it? The US needs to censor hate speech such as these.

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weren't you the guy with an above normal interest in and affection for fluffy animals, aswell as identifying yourself with them...?

And this has to do with what? GTFO if all you can do is give idle insults and stereotyping

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Scaly animals, yes. But let's not confuse two disturbing issues here.

HYPOCRACY there. You yourself has applauded this statement:

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It's a variant of the argumentum ad hominem and is a fundamentally lazy and intellectually dishonest form of argument. Sadly, it has become increasingly prevalent in political discourse over the last several years as politics has become increasing polarized and divisive. It's probably best to just ignore those who resort to using it.

Then you yourself turned around and stereotyped lizard because "all furries are sexually attracted to animals"...WHAT HYPOCRACY!!!

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Sorry, I haven't anything constructive to add to this topic. I just wanted to gather all these quotes together to highlight a) the hilarity and b) the inconsistency.

Lizardfolk, if only the world was as black and white as you seem to enjoy labelling it.

I included the last quote just to demonstrate your naivety.

You are an idiot. America IS as polarized as lizard said in terms of politics. Conservatives and liberals are at each other's throat constantly. It is YOUR naivety that is laughable.

You Europeans think you know everything, but SHUT UP if you know nothing about American politics because America is the most polarized political country there is. Of course the good majority of the public is moderate, but in terms of political leaders and activates they cant BE MORE POLARIZED.

You have the constant american attacking liberals at one extreme (think Michael Moore and Berkeley hardcore hippies) then you have the racist evangelical conservatives on the other extreme. It IS that polarized although this is something you dont see unless you have a clear understanding of American politics.

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People have been saying the moon landing didn't occur since the moon landing occurred. These people are idiots and always have been. And as I already stated further up the thread, your average self-identifying liberal would be horrified to be identified with these people. They're mostly misguided libertarians. Same as the Alex Jones acolytes.

I'm having a difficult time puzzling out what your actual argument is in the huge post you re-posted, because it doesn't seem to actually address the subject of universal healthcare or Sicko at all, and seems to be devoted to a screed against Obama. After doing a bit of research on the "Patriotic Corporations" bill, it seems that the general idea is to give tax breaks to a corporation which:



Honestly, I don't see a huge argument against this. The companies who operate under these conditions are probably either a) smaller or b) making less money than those who outsource heavily, or violate the other terms of the bill. Operating under those conditions will undoubtedly help the ground level employees of the given corporations, and help the US economy in general.

The only real problem with the bill is the name. Labeling a corporation as patriotic or unpatriotic is an idiotic thing to do, and is frankly something I would expect to come from the other side of the aisle in congress, but monkey see/monkey do, I guess.

Anyway, none of this relates directly to healthcare, which was the main topic of your post. Care to try again?

GET OUT OF YOUR CAVE. Extreme liberals have been saying that "we never landed on the moon it was all a government conspiracy to boost moral at that time" and that "Bush bombed his own world trade center just to make an excuse for Iraq" and crap like that ALL THE TIME, are you EVEN politically active? It seems that NO one here has a good understanding of the politics in America.

Plus what lizard said was that we cant afford healthcare, which you should have know if you actually READ his post :rolleyes: Lizard ur an idiot for thinking we cant pay for healthcare. We have all the resources in the world to do go.

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Lizard why are you against universal health care/socialist economy?

LFS needs fender rub and sparks on closed wheel racing. Also, the Formula's visual damage is too lacking.

This is wonderful. If CART never split then NASCAR would never be where it is now.

Indy is awesome

I laugh at how all these international people jump to discredit Lizardfolk when they themselves probably have absolutely no idea of the situation in the United States. The US is the most extreme country I've ever seen. You have the extreme anti-american liberals and then you have the racist evangelical conservatives. This division is tearing American apart and the media just tries to discredit each other instead of the focusing on the real problem in America.

Seriously guys, if you know nothing about America, dont talk.

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Maybe it was a mistake to post this in a international forum. When I refer to liberals. I'm ONLY referring to AMERICAN EXTREME LIBERALS. Those that stem from the hippie era.

That's very obvious. Anyone who cant see that you are talking about american and ONLY american situations and policies are retarded

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I'd be embarrassed

After your retarded statement (which you conveniently edited out) I would too

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social programs arent liberal


that has nothing to do with liberals either

You just completely contradicted the major liberal policy and thinking in America....good job....do you even know what you are talking about?

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I'm not exactly sure what you're babbling about. I think most liberals would be horribly offended to be identified with the wackos who follow Alex Jones et al. Most of them are misguided libertarians and general simpletons.

What a random sampling of celebrities say has very little to do with actual liberal policy, and I suggest that you don't take Depp or Penn or Sarandon or anyone seriously as a political spokesperson.

And to call the NYT "extreme liberal" media is just stupid.

edit: Also, while I agree that it's bad to reactionarily assign blame to America for everything wrong in the world, the fact is that many things wrong in the world right now can be traced back to policies put in place by the American government. The intent likely wasn't for bad things to happen, but they did and it's not anti-American to take responsibility for them.

News flash kiddo, the Times is the most liberal newspaper there is.

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Need better damage system...all I can say.

Probably a bentable axis instead of having the wheels just loat after a crash

Well...there goes America's oval open wheel league

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i know one user here who must havé a raging erection while reading this

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i dont see anybody else here who outed himself as much as you did

Lizard dont take this personally again. This guy may be a jerk, but leave it alone.