Quote from Crashgate3 :

Stuffi - if you were to buy the full S2 package, the servers there are a LOT better regulated. It's got better since demo racers needed to register too, but the demo servers are still a bit of a wasteland of stupid people and badly organised servers (not that there aren't a few good ones, obviously).

Yeah I want to buy S2, but there are serveral other things I'd like to investigate in the near future with much higher priority than games

Quote from Mille Sabords :

If you want to race on demo, good competition and fair admins, try (only examples)
Zion race demo for XRG, XFG - but be warned most drivers here run 1.34xx or less regularly and want to win badly, so it may be challenging. I get owned in there

PINK server demo if it is still on
less reliable
GanzGenau, Bremskille.de

For FBM, Royalzeropub Hun
or the league servers

I visit Zion very often, good drivers and high challenging races, espacially in Prime Time and yeah I run 1.34.xx and less regulary too

I think PINK is offline or to high ping for me, GanzGenau is new to me, bet it's not online or only, when I'm not and Bremskiller sadly is down too or changed it's serversettings to "no vote", but I remember not visiting it for a long time!

www[dot]dovrchu[dot]cz #2 has nice admins too, but this is the server I get ambushed the most! I don't make the admins responsible for it, but I think most of the visitor think its cz-only!

SYNOWIE WIATRU #1, ZIOM and [SKH]Fair Play are worth visiting too, but I think sometimes the admins are partial or at SKH never there -.-

In fact there are some good servers, alot of fair and challenging drivers, but all those don't stop keep idiots getting online!

I think I just recognized that it's still to early to think about such a system or to think about measures of preventing racists, crashers and other idiots from disturbing fair players.

But I thank you all for your thoughts and opinions and hope that it gets better soon or when I get S2.

Happy and fair driving

Quote from SauberDrifter :

Perhaps you didn't understand the joke.:doh:

Maybe I was to naive to think, that people would take me and my problem seriously! I'm sorry for not understanding your ignorance

Quote from Willem Moolenaar :

OMG, mate. That's really terrible. Just you know that those comments say more about the people saying them than about you.

Not sure what a good solution is but I'd make sure the Admin of the server is informed.

Good luck.

If it would only be comments, I would slug them down, but as I get crashed and banvoted, I can't just sit there and ignore it! But still thanks for your thoughts

Quote from Starbert :

Stuffi,

You are ALWAYS welcome at our league-servers. We have a fine atmosphere at our league. Try it!! www.absolute-beginners.nl

BIG grids!!

Ah great thats the kind of acceptance I would love to see in every driver thanks, I'm gone check it out later.

Quote from Mille Sabords :

Stuffi,While it may sound like a good idea it has a major drawback:Who is rating you?

Enter a populated server and you get 12 bad votes instantely, just for fun, while each one of these kids gets 11 good ones...How do you balance this at the end of the day?

Try to search a little bit in this forum, many other ways have been discussed before - no real solution exist unfortunately. Find better servers and stick to them, if you ever get S2 it becomes easier (but not 100% guarantee there).

[...]

Good luck - this place is like everywhere else, with its share of and most people trying to be fair and have fun respecting each other.

Yeah I know what you are saying about the negative aspect, thats why I thought about a reason (why this rating) you have to enter, before rating! It's a bad solution I know! Another one probably could be some sort of rating-limit, like 3-5 per day! So you have to think about it, before rating and if someone has rated more then 100 guys as negative and only 5 positive, then he probably is someone not to trust!

It's hard to find "better server" if you are regular guest, known by the admins for more then 6 month and then some idiots start to like the same server and keep visiting it as much as you do and start ambushing you because of your sources! And even the admins aren't online everytime!
And yeah I will buy S2, but not yet!

It's a difficult issue, but anyway thanks for your thoughts

Quote from SauberDrifter :

How anyone thinks Germans are "Nazi's" is just plain stupid.

You are damn right!

Hi @ all, long time no suggestion from me, but the last few days kept me thinking of one over and over again!

This probably has already been suggested, but I couldn't find any thread talking about that.

I would love to see some sort of driver rating, like rating a driver as friendly, fair, aggressive or whatever, but only with some sort of detail! Not only "dumb" or so, a closer explanation should be required.

This should warn people, when someone enters a server and is marked as a crasher or something!

Why I came up with this idea is the freaking growing mass of unfair driver! Not only that they drive like idiots, some of them are good drivers, but call you a nazi or discriminate you because of your country!

I got crashed the last few days, just because I'm from germany. The hitler-area was over more then 60 years ago, I wasn't even born and now people make me accountable for the things I've never done!

People tell me to leave a server, because it is a cz-server and not a german or whatever! I know, I'm not the only one and I know, that not only germans are the victims and I also know that there are some germans, who act like idiots, too! But thats why I came up with this "idea".

This ratingsystem could be missused as well, thats the negative thing, but if there are more negative ratings with dumb descriptions then negative ratings with ah...well, good-descripted descriptions then you can differ from real and dumb-ratings!

Ehm....yeah thats it! Would like to hear your thoughts!

Well, I think Editor would be ok, another thing I could use while I'm bored! But only for offline or Network Games! If you would be able to play your tracks or cars online it would destroy the game! Another thing is, that it wouldn't be realistic anymore, if anyone can build and upload their tracks and cars! As said a lot of times on this board, LFS is still a racing-simulation and it should concentrate on racing, not on other stuff, like building!

Quote from BigTime :

That's mainly for broadcast related stuff... You don't use tvdirector when your making artistic shots.

Oh ok, looks like I misunderstood the function of this tool!

try other tools like tvdirector!

Quote from Bean0 :

I haven't seen the message recently, but it must have changed.

Didn't it used to be 'Your Skin has not been found on LFSWorld', which would apply to all users ?

Yeah something like that, I'm to lazy to change my language ingame to check whats the english message, but in german it says I should upload the skin at lfsworld.net!

@Bob Smith
ah thats interesting, I didn't know that this existed before the last patch, but now you said it, so it makes sense to me!

well lets see if something changes with the next patch but maybe I have S1 or S2 until then, don't know, there is a lot of stuff I need the money for in the next few months! we'll see!

Quote from Bean0 :

But the defaults and a lot of public skins are uploaded. Some demo racers might not want to look naked, and would prefer to know if the skin they have chosen is not being seen by others.

It also demonstrates the feature that is unavailable to them, something a demo user who doesn't use the forums might not know about.

Yeah, but one or two advices would be enough and without sound, if you ask me!

Quote from Jordan2007 :

DEMO = DEMONSTRATION

What a wise man you are, if you can't read you'd better look for another thread.
My improvement suggestion was about improving the demo and not about improving the game! And why should they implement a message which politetly invites someone to do something what he can't do!

Annoying messages for demousers isn't a good advertising for a full version!

And even then it would be cleverer to pop the message "Plz get s1 or s2 to upload your customs skins" and not to confuse demousers, because they think, that they might be able upload their skins!

The other thing is, that demos normaly are available before the fullversion. So lets make an example, a Gta 100 demo, where you only can visit town 1 of 4! If there would pop up a message every 2 minutes which would tell you, "Visit town 2, 3 and 4 to get better weapons", would that make sense?

Well whatever, the only thing I wanted or asked was, if it is possible to remove this message because I think a lot of demo-users are anoyed and maybe have other reasons not to buy s1 or s2! Would be great

thanks

Quote from morpha :

Well there are two simple solutions:

1. Get S1/S2 or
   
2. Don't use a custom skin
   

Yeah sure, "if people don't buy our game, we go on there nerves and don't let them use their custom skins without getting annoyed!"
Well I don't think, that this is the way the developers think about it!

Quote from dougie-lampkin :

Before Patch Z, in the multiplayer menu, there were 3 options for Demo, S1, or S2 servers.

Ah ok I now know what you mean

Well I tried logging in on lfsworld.net and clicked on "my car skins" or what it's called and it said that I need to be S1 or S2, sadly!

And, what do you mean with

Quote :

even though technically there aren't any "demo servers" any more

I mean I can see, that there are much lesser servers, where I can particitpate, but 2 servers were still up and I was able to join them!

I like a lot of improvements with this patch, mostly the new replay-features, but this message keeps annoying me and it distracts me while driving!

Hi, since last patch I always get this message in the chat "Please upload your skin at www.lfsworld.net"!

Well, I'm a freaking demo-racer, I CAN'T UPLOAD MY SKIN!!!!

This should be removed or you give us demo-racers the rights to upload our skins!

I don't need to upload my skin nor do I want to get this message, it annoys me!

Quote from tristancliffe :

I, like 99% of club racers, have to worry about repairing my car, and doing it myself should I have an accident.

I, like 99% of club racers don't have a crew, a manager (as such) or other staff members.

Don't mix the tiny world of professional racing with the huge (relatively) world of moneyless club racers.

I "Don't mix the tiny world of professional racing with the huge (relatively) world of moneyless club racers"! I just don't think, that there are "club racers" who actually have the money to drive own f1 cars or dtmcars or whatever!

And btw. dealing with a currancy shouldn't be a part of a racing simulation!

Last edited by Stuffi, Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:30.

Quote from atlantian :

if the devs do this correctly, this would be the ultimate sim, since it would be exactly like in real life!

Exactly like in real life? Can't remember last time a racer had to worry about repairing his car! In real life racers do have a crew, a manager and other staff members who should worry about repairing cars and stuff, the racer should only worry about finishing races and winning races!
As you can see this idea is quite discussable, the Racers-Squad is splitted here and therefore I don't think, that this will make it's way to S3!
Another thing is, how to attach this to the demo? Should this be an license-only feature?

In my opinion it's an idea everyone should think about, but nothing more, I would not want this feature to be in s3 or any other version of lfs! As already said, think about those crashes caused by lags, think about those crashes caused by noobs, because they haven't learned yet to break in time.
And as soon as any sort of currency make it's way to a game, you will be able to buy accounts on ebay.

Think about it!

Quote from zeugnimod :

"Stuffi
Demo Racer"

Yeah, remember the demo racer ! Btw. I'm gone be S2 soon, hopefully!

I would prefer seeing a function like "ban to pit" so that the driver is banned to pit until the race ends! And even if he leave the server and comeback he shoudl still be banned to pit (should be possible via ip)!

Another thing is some sort of menu, where you can select the driver you want to ban/kick/banpit via keyboard! It already sucks, when there is a crasher/parker/blocker and you control your car via mouse, then you hardly can ban/kick/whatever him/her without forcing your car to lose control!

Well @ TONI_TP, I like your idea and I can feel you! It's just like the same with those randombanners, who join the server and like to ban or kick everyone just for fun or just to be able to join the race (f.e. in full races). That sucks!

Banning and kicking is pretty helpful most the time I'm online, but it sure can be improved on many ways!