Quote from rane_nbg :

Well take assetto for example. It's super expensive with all the available DLC, I do not even know how much I've spent on all of those. It has a milion cars and tracks, of which I only drove a few. My multiplayer experience was horrible. In that case, this is absolutelly too much choice, driven just by the the nature of how games these days are. Here's an DLC or a car, you wana play? then you buy, try it and not drive it anymore. What I'm trying to say is more content does not equal better. If you just want to do a single player hotlap, then by all means, go for it. Moreover, kids are anyway allways attracted to the graphical aspect of it and mostly are repelled from LFS due to it.

LFS gameplay, GUI, multiplayer experience, FFB, organized leagues and its small specialized community makes it in my opinnion by far the best racing sim ever made. It gets improved, slowly yes, but it still does live on since 2002.

You can literally pick up AC with 4 DLCs for 10€ right now on humble bundle. Also, only because you had terrible mp experiences, doesn't represent the game's mp. I could say the same about LFS. Also, it's 2021, and LFS lacks so many features it's not even funny (day/night cycles, actual AI, dynamic weather, etc...). Don't get me wrong, LFS was my first driving sim, and at the time it was a pioneer with its tyre model. But now basically anyone caught up and left LFS in the dust.
Only thing keeping this game alive is people with poor PCs, drifters, demo players and people who crack/mod the game.
What I'm saying is that there's no wrong in liking this game over other options, but you have to admit that, for the price, it's not even remotely worth it. Especially for SP users.

Quote from rane_nbg :

Do not listen to this young guy

You have come to the perfect place. LFS is a great and affordable sim, with plenty of good cars and tracks. The community is small but also very fun and helpufull.

As pricing is concerned, there are different licenses demo (free), S1, S2 and S3. One can buy one by one and upgrade. Have a look here for exact prices https://www.lfs.net/shop

For start you can try demo for free, then if you like it, no more that up to S2 is really needed. S2 should be no more than 30 dollars I guess, for USA. It's a one time payment, no iRenting bs.

you have a very very weird concept of "affordable" and "plenty". Because LFS, compared to other sims, is anything but those two adjectives.

As for the OP, if you have a crap computer, go for LFS, but don't buy the S3 license, because you're spending 12$ (or more) for just a track. If that's not the case, I suggest you look at something else (Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2 (when on sale), RaceRoom which in its free to play version has already way more content than LFS).

If you're looking for F1 racing, LFS is the last SIM to look at

Quote from Mic0z :

Hi,

I'm contemplating about getting this game as I've played before on a friends account and loved it.

But my question is, do people still play this game as it was very popular when I last played it. If not, why?

Mike

don't bother with the S3, buy the S2 if you're after a license

Here it is again, straight for the ad hominem, the "you haven't played it enough" card. It's become so predictable it's not even funny anymore.
What can I say, when it comes to criticizing this game, all the fanboys become toxic.
P.S. I spent most of my time in SP, because, guess what? There's mostly demo racing or league racing doesn't fit my schedules. Or perhaps, there's nobody going for the same car-track combo I am.
But looks like here you have to drive 1 trillion laps or you won't have the right to voice your opinion.

Worry not, this is going to be my last post for quite a while, at least until the devs will pick up some pace.

If they ever will

Quote from bishtop :

To be fair you have not ever given LFS a chance, i think you wanted a game or simulator that you could be good at which in reality is not always a realistic scenario and takes the realism away from it

Put in some serious practice in LFS and you will be good which would make you more satisfied with the product

"I don't have a valid response to what you just said so I'm going to write some nonsense".

I think you missed the part in which I state that I've been playing since I was 13.
Funnily enough you even answered in my topic about getting terrible FFB, where you didn't even care to help me out. LFS has, at least in my case, very poor FFB. And I can tell because I was able to play two other sims. This was the last drop that made me leave. Hell, it's been two months since the last report. If you still like this sim, fair enough, just don't invent such "reasons" on why people leave just because you're a die-hard fan.

On a final note: since a friend of mine got himself a wheel, he asked me on what sim to play. I tried to convince him to get LFS, but as soon as he heard what rF2 had to offer, he bought it right away, full price (unlike me, where I waited for the 50% discount)

I think from this, you can tell the direction LFS userbase is going.

Quote from False hope :

You are more than correct on that one.

Storm, you just sound like an old person who is simply not accepting any change in the game industry. It is more important what the majority demands. Clearly, that's what the community wants more (look at iR / AC etc), those games attract people who are willing to pay because there's content and there's always something new.
You just need to burst your bubble and realize that in today's society, these sort of players (mainly iR one's) seek more than just ''hey uh we got a nice spectator mode and chat interface''...

It sums it up for you but the racing community isn't made out of 10 old,retired people, c'mon, get real here!

I think even Nilex has got over the fact that this game is just a dying breed..........3 guys who work on a game can't compete with the staff of iRacing or AC, it is just not possible. Look at the money these guys invest in iR to get the latest tech co-op with what they are putting out. It doesn't MATCH UP the level of effort that goes into here. Get off your high-horse and realize this is just as bad as any other game that had their time to shine but spoiled it in one way or another.

The industry doesn't care what you want, they just want your money. iR is where it goes and they got the supply to keep up with the demand. LFS is just a great hobby for Scawen and Eric but before it gets anywhere near iR level, we will probably be in our retirement houses.

Don't bother arguing, you'll get the same answer over and over: "Lfs is the bestest evarest".
I moved to rFactor 2 and having so much fun. Fun that LFS was never able to give me. I've played LFS since I was 13, and it's sad to quit playing it. But at the same time, I've found better alternatives.

Quote from cargame.nl :

for what reason did you install it?

It's been my first and only simulator since i was like 13. But now that I have access to other sims, I don't see the reason why I have to bother with embarassing AI, lack of real cars, circuits, and now apparently terrible FFB.
I'm having a blast with rF2 with the F1 2019 mod. That really tells it.
I'm kinda sad about it, but on the other hand, like I just said, why should I bother.
Just move to better shores and be done with it.

well, looks like i'm going to delete LFS from my pc. It was nice while it lasted

where do i find this setting?

these are my settings

This is a clear sign you should take a break or play something else

After having played RaceRoom, I've realised that the FFB I have is terrible, I can't feel anything at all, while on RaceRoom it's 100 times better. So, do you know what I have to tweak? I have a Thrustmaster TMX btw.

regarding tshirts, you can print custom ones for like 6$ on aliexpress

Quote from FightGamingBG :

Great idea! This will make the game sales to go up and the players to be more happy... If this idea comes true its gonna be great because this TWEAKER is laggy ASF

well, you don't have a license, so you couldn't drive those cars anyway

...or are you using a cracked version?

alas it has been suggested many times now, but the devs won't have none of it (for the moment).

10 years since the "new" car was supposed to be implemented and people still make thread about possible new cars lol

Mainly because it takes like 15 secs to get into a race, and is the only one that allows to play properly with M&K. I bought rF2 a couple weeks ago since it was on sale, but being on a 15'6 laptop, playing with the wheel is less than ideal because I can barely see the turns.
If I'll ever get a proper PC, or at least a bigger monitor, I will probably quit LFS. It's getting boring using always the same cars and tracks (inb4 "yOu HavEn'T trIed alL combOs!!1!), not to mention the AI is simply embarassing, the worst on the market. So until then, I stick with LFS.

if only this game actually had kerb sounds. Anyhow, you should be hired for the promo stuff of this game, excelent work

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I have been wondering, for some time, what is the actual source of income for the devs? It can't be the licenses alone, so where do they earn money? With server rental?

Quote from Vladimir_nose :

But it looks like the next progress report will come out with the sirocco

AHAHAHAH good one

Quote from bishtop :

You can find your encounters info(racers met) from LFSWORLD which enables you to see who and how many times you encounter someone online with a couple of filters.

The majority of the racers are licensed racers, and all it takes is to go to a licensed server and people will follow. Our (MRc) Saturday event has good turnouts (usually full server), so the racers are out there.

Ah I see. Too bad I can't practice with my wheel. All I have is a laptop, and the screen is way too small for me to use a wheel, I can't see properly, so I'm forced to use the mouse, and it's kinda a turn off

Quote from NumberTwo :

Lfs for me has only one problem. And that is getting new guys in, and getting them to respectable level. Because nowadays, on competitive races, if you are too slow you dont even qualify for a race. Skill level is quite high overall.

Basically this, that's the main reason I don't race online. There are no users matching my skill level, so considering there's only high skilled drivers online, that would mean like doing a time attack, because i get gappped quickly. And the SP with the AI is really bad as well

Quote from biharisipka :

Before you join the server, you should write in host passord box your admin password and then join. GL

12 year old necrobump, congratz