I hope that too, but as you can see, the setup forum is spammed with drift and drag setups and the inferno ones are using the locked diff exploit.

I hoped for a change after the preload was first introduced, but it seems the comunity didn't reacted to it.

Quote from TiJay :

I'm really torn between the 595s, SR80s and Sonys now. I'll have to draw up a table of pros and cons...

My taste in music is a lot of rock, with the odd dance/rap track. Not much classical or pop. Not a fan of opera or anything with shrieking vocals.

I think you should choose between Sennheiser HD595 and Alessandro MS1.
The Alessandro MS1 is also made by Grado (based on the SR125 I think), but optimized for a more balanced sound, compared to the usual Grado sound that's on the bright side.
For rock, the Alesandro will perform better, for dance, pop, rap, jazz, classical, the Sennheiser.
If you are considering games/movies, I can only say that the HD595 is the most recommended model here. Comfort side, the HD595 is clearly the winner.
One advantage of the MS1 is its price. Anyway, you can't go wrong with any of these models.

The best thing is to know what kind of sound you are looking for. It's also worth to mention what kind of music do you listen the most.

Grados are the first choice when talking about rock music, but they are a bit overpriced in europe.

I don't think you will have a problem finding the low-impedance version of the 595. The high impedance one was only available for a short time when it lauched.

The best unamped senn is the HD595.

I would stay away from Sony, only if you decide to buy a Qualia or a R10

If you like bass, and you can't afford a RS1, don't go with Grado

for more information try this forum: http://www6.head-fi.org/forums ... play.php?s=&forumid=2

Last edited by undoz, Sun, 3 Jun 2007 20:09.

Here is a good illustration of the three LSD types.

You can see how the pinion, under torque, pushes the plates creating pressure on the clutches. It moves up on throttle and down on coast.

-the 2 way diff has the same locking pressure on coast and throttle
-the 1 way diff puts pressure and moves the plates only on throttle
-the 1.5 way diff has a lower pressure on coast.

The ramp angles on the cam set the locking power. You may remember that from the GPL setups.

Last edited by undoz, Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:24.

I think the preload always has an effect on the clutches, no matter in what state it is.

In this picture you can see the preload springs pushing the pressure rings.

If you add spring hard enough, it will keep the clutch pressed all the time.
I don't think it's possible to have a lower force, in a torque loaded state, then the preloaded one. Of course, I don't think anyone would do such a thing in RL

Edit:

I've found a bit of info here : http://icpcitation.com/variloc_tuning.htm


"To change the ramp angles, new ramps are needed – just exchange one for the other. If preload is needed add shims behind the preload springs, or change to stiffer springs.
Locking rate of both sides of the ramp can be lowered by reducing preload, or by rearranging the clutches to reduce the number of active surfaces."

Last edited by undoz, Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:24.

From my searches I've found out that the M3 has a 25%/25% with 45NM preload diff.
If anyone has more info from the real cars, please post.

These are great to drive! The best driving experience that I've had in a sim.

This is how LFS should handle.

Thanks Niels

I also enjoy the demo very much and I'll buy it . Had lots of fun .

Hi there guys

So this is the third forum lfs moves on ? From what I remember HighGear was the first