i see that the world is feed up with cheaters and the worsest thing that you people agree with cheaters too !

Conclusion : More of you support the cheaters ?

Atleast now we got back feedback as we expected ... good job in a way

Quote from Inouva :

Bawahahahahahahahahahahhahahaahah, this is sooooooo lameeeee.... hahaahahahahahahahahha

Yess it is blahhhahha

Quote from IsaacPrice :

I think it should be standard to offer password recovery support, atleast if you want any sort of successful game. But meh, LFS is a good game, good community, the devs lack of interest kill it nothing new

yeah ...
i never said that they are quilty for my brother fault and yess maybe is a small leak on the system and maybe they didnt want to attract people attention on those things..

Quote from boothy :

He's not actually from America, he's British but lives over there now, therefore understands English perfectly unlike Romanians, and is sensible enough to know what he's talking about.

sorry ...
i'm also hungarian ...bro .. living in romania ...sorry

Quote from -NightFly- :

Go Vic!

edit*

First of all, do you have your account insured? I guess not. people usually pay for insurance, they dont buy a car and think it is insured autamatically forever...

secondly:
If you leave your keys in the car, then yes insurance company points definately fault at you. There was similar case around here few years ago: man left keys in, went to a house for a second and some lunatic stole the car and drove it into the nearby gasstation. guess who had to pay for the damages of the gas station (inluding the insured car)?

Wooow UNBELIEVABLE...


DO YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU WRITE HERE ???

This story is Lunatic bro ....yess ..but you make my day the best


..nobody said that we left the keys in the car .. whoo the full topic is getting funny ... but i'm not responsible because i said in the beginning to close the topic

Quote from PMD9409 :

So the guy goes against the EULA and gives account details away, and then wants his account back? What did Victor do wrong? Not be nice? Aren't we all grown adults here? He wasn't disrespectful, he just told the truth and was to the point.

I remember when I had my PS2 back in 2000whatever. It got struck by lightning and my first response was to open it. That voided the warranty because it was against what the "rules" were. I couldn't get a replacement because of it. Was Sony nice to me? No, and they didn't have to be.

Vic didn't make a quick response because he is done with these types of recoveries (nice that he even did in the first place).

Vic then states "Sorry, but I no longer do these recoveries". Am I missing something? What's wrong here?

Vic did nothing wrong, you were the one that gave away your information, therefore you are the one at fault, not Vic.

You screwed up, suck it up and take fault. No need to blame someone else for your own actions.

You just crashed into this topic from where ??? and did you read that what is our complain ???? man
I dont understand that you are from USA and or dont understand english or you dont read the topic just want to complain ?!

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

:iagree:

Fair enough, don't help the guy. But say so in a decent and non-arsey way. Very arrogrant if you ask me (you didn't but I'm sharing my views anyway).

If this is as much of a problem as Victor makes out (as in it happens to lots of people) why doesn't he (being the master code he is ahem) create a simple account recovery procedure? Completely hands off from his end other than implementing it...so it's a win-win.

Allow users to enter a purchase reference number (or whatever, I presume it's emailed to you...if you log into lfs.net you can see it under "license status"... eg LFS19568791552) which then resets their password, or reset your account passwords back to a randomly generated one by clicking on a link which is sent to your email address. Make it so that email address changes can only be done by confirming you have access to the original email account, if you current LFS email is [email protected] and you want to change it to [email protected] then you'd have to click a verification link in an email sent to [email protected] before it would change your email to [email protected].

You're welcome.

Woow..
Exactly the same thing i tought but i didnt want to complain more about , because you see how people we help each other , we support the Cheaters !!!!

Thanx anyway , and i apreciate that there is left people who have solidarity for each other !

Quote from Inouva :

You are missing something, YOUR STUPID friend give his GAME AND MAIL PASS to the guy, and the funny party?, he did it more that 2 times.

Is like give the keys to your car to the theft, so you are F** up

You fortune inorganic what are you talking about ??? My friend ???
it is my brother if you read between lines you blind, second you talking bullshit allthetime because he didnt share any mail pass ,and what about "he did it more that 2 times" ??? what ...
You are so upset of this story that i have to think that Or you are Kevin or is your relatives because both of you have no any human feelings ,besides you are talking with crapy words!!!


I ensure you that i closing any conversation with you !


..if your iq would be less with 1% ,you would be named as "PLANTS" ..

Quote from spookthehamster :

This isn't asking for a new one. This is asking for his back. If someone stole your car, should the thief be allowed to keep it or should it be returned?

In my opinion this is extremely harsh of Victor. Everyone gets conned in some way at some point, to say it's his fault for being conned is terrible, no matter what occurred.

Having an experience like this forces people to learn about the risks, and refusing to return his account just rubs salt in the wounds.

Thets IT ... No other word nedded

Quote from Inouva :

The insurance of lfs is "DONT GIVE YOUR GAME / WEB PASSWORD" or any LOGIN DETAIL TO LFS!!!" And that's something that your friend did ( Like not pay the insurance of the car ) So your friend will never gona have back his acc and the one who stole should have a medal and be banned from lfs

OK
Let it be in your point of view ... but ...
Let see in my point of view :


I driving the car (i have insurance on car) and i,m stopping for taking a hitchhiker , after a few ours i,m stopping at a gas station , until i pay for gasoline the hitchhiker stole my car !!!!!!!!!!!

Now i really dont need a new car , I need my old one back !!
So in your point of view the insurance company should say that I was guilty because i taken a hitchhiker ???
The THEFT is THEFT either side we check !!

Quote from Inouva :

I take a example that was used in some thread about this matter


If someon stole your car, the company should give you a new one?

DONT FORCE YOURSELF TO SPREAD AROUND YOUR SHADE

How CSF says ,his right ... if you dont care about , get off from this topic and have a wet dream


About the stolen car example .... why you shouldnt say that IF YOU HAVE INSURANCE ON YOUR CAR , THEY SHOULD REIMBURSE YOU !!!

..and last time i tell you that there is not so much difference in point of view how devs. not feedback , what if we say we never gave the account data ???? 3 weeks s..ks also ??
... I'm closing this conversation here , feel free JUST RATE YOURSELF here

...no prob. people.. just wait compassion when you will need help ..

Franky500 (moderator) now you can close the topic , CASE SOLVED, CASE CLOSED

Some of you ,know exactly the story of Gmaksi Vs Xtreme 13.
I'm completly done with hoping humanity further from both player and support side !!!

We got answer after more then three weeks (when i started the ATTENTION topic) and we decide that even Victor didn't treated us humans, we are kind and we Support him again with another £ 24 to help him !


Just for candy i attach a small PM conversation

VICTOR:
" Hi,

Sorry, but I'm completely done with helping people regain access to their account.
It is your own responsibility to keep your account details safe. This is a basic requirement for working on the internet and will only become more important in the future.
Unless it is a security breach on our end, I will not assist people who lost their account in any way.

Victor
"

Quote:
Originally Posted by jenck
"Hi
I write this message in the name of my brother (gmaksi)

we have a desperated situation , that we have to resolve somehow.
I was playing in multiplayer (made my own server with password the same as my account ) with "kevin" User Xtreme13 and after a while that guy was stolen my password and changed my email and also my country details at 2011.sep.18
Please somehow reset my password because i was earned many points and it is unbelievable how someones could cheat others
I can proof myself , i have the payment licence and i can send you if you gave me an email adress, also i have my brother to prof myself .
Please send me a feedback soon as possible.

Best regards
Galatz Levente (Gmaksi)

I attaching here the proof of my Purchase

Email: [email protected]

Skype: galatz.levente

Yahoo messenger: galatz_levente

Please reply soon as possible!!
Or please contact me at [email protected] or skype: jenckjenck


Please prove us that youre helpfull
We are waiting more tghan 3 weeks for feedback from you ...please support us better as we apreciate your work alot !!!!

Best regards Jenck Galatz (jenck)
"

"Drive never faster than your Angel can fly"

Last edited by jenck, Tue 11 Oct 2011, 18:59.

Quote from Kristi :

Thought so of your brother's skype name :P

Quote from bunder9999 :

http://www.lfs.net/?page=dummies_page

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=76320
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=76346
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=76388
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=76389
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=76390

dude, how many threads do you need to create about this?

hmmm
just wonder ... everybody just complaining of this ..nobody cares that the devs didnt want to see any of our posts , not even the emails , not even the automated mail , and yess you cannot PM because the pm is restricted for them

So i just post because thay are not pay any attention on us , i think we have the right to post there is no rules which restrict to post ...
If someone have no shame at all to cheat others , should i be i shy guy

Quote from Kristi :

Having none of the relation to your topic but, do you have any Hungarian relation?

Also about the email confirmation thing :

What if your email becomes inactive and you cannot access it anymore. Happened to me some times. You just won't be able to change it to a working one?

That's true and is an option too ... but you cannot do a system 100% reliable

Yess i have relation to hungary mert magyar vagyok (Erdely) :P


We are left hungarian minority in romania for those who missunderstand

Quote from Inouva :

jenck should be banned

and your brother should lost his s2 account forever

NO COMMENT




..drive like kevin ...behave like kevin

another POOR side of lfs.net that when you want to change the email adress in your account then first thay should send an email to that adress to ask if you are really accept the mail change at lfs account .
So we could have double security and even if somebody steal your pass he still cannot change the mail adress !!!

Yess thats true ...
And yess we provide the purchase number too and some of the data from the email which we got back as proof of purchase from the devs aftrer the purchase !!
and i think my brother mentioned many other proofs of other nature .
We have the visa , purchase number , the whole purchase feedback email , and many screenshots , skype talk , forum talks ,replays , that is proving that gmaksi's account belongs to my brother and the otherone xtreme13 is a bastard cheater but it is really lucky guy (or smart) because he stolen we dont know how much account and maybe still doing and can play without any problem !!!!

One important mention !!!! :
My brother think same like me when : We can buy new s2 account its not just about money (more than its not about) but its weird that my brother also was raced hard to earn points and rates ,experience points ...and so on.. and the cheater guy is racing happy !!!! so in which side is the truth ???
(well yess i know ... the truth is on the other side ... )
I just want people to know that how devs react on this kind of situation and maybe for ex. if the server will forget 5000 account ,the i will be really curiouse how people react then ...because i know that our problem maybe not other problems ...but people we can change the rules just TOGETHER !..

And sorry for crying around but its not my first time to contact devs in many cases and i never had so careless situation

Hi
PEOPLE JUST PAY ATTENTION A BIT !!!
THIS TOPIC IS FOR PROVING THAT HOW HELPFULL ARE THE DEVELOPERS OF LFS !!!!!!!!!

We didnt get any feedback after 3 weeks from any ov devs.
Whatewer problem we have ,minimum is to get a small feedback
We cannot reach any of devs ,the pm's is restricted , no phone number , no fax, no mail, no answer from at least an automated server.
If we want to buy after 5 mins its done , in the other side if we need help ... that it UNBELIEVABLE
Just correct me if i'm wrong !

I dont want to blame anybody , but we my brother's account (gmaksi) stolen by kevin (xtreme13) and it was more then 3 weeks ago , we try to get in contact with all of you but unbelievable how your support is
we got many topics where even others have proofs that this guy is a cheater !!!
I apologise but i dont get words to explain how desperated we are that in other side we cannot get back any help any feedback at least somebody can tell us that we dont help ...but nothing !!!!

Please prove yourself that you are helpfull and take the situation in hand .

One more time i mention that we HAVE all the proof that is necessary to prove that we bought the account .
Please contact me at [email protected] or skype : jenckjenck , lfs s2 user :jenck , my brother skype :
galatz.levente , my bro email : [email protected]

(my brother speak littlebit less english ,but i do

Not at last i have to tell you that I APRECIATE VERY VERY MUCH your work (LFS) it is amazing what a good simulation you done ...

Best Regards
Jenci Galatz
(jenck)

Hi
PEOPLE JUST PAY ATTENTION A BIT !!!
THIS TOPIC IS FOR PROVING THAT HOW HELPFULL ARE THE DEVELOPERS OF LFS !!!!!!!!!

We didnt get any feedback after 3 weeks from any ov devs.
Whatewer problem we have ,minimum is to get a small feedback
We cannot reach any of devs ,the pm's is restricted , no phone number , no fax, no mail, no answer from at least an automated server.
If we want to buy after 5 mins its done , in the other side if we need help ... that it UNBELIEVABLE
Just correct me if i'm wrong !

I dont want to blame anybody , but we my brother's account (gmaksi) stolen by kevin (xtreme13) and it was more then 3 weeks ago , we try to get in contact with all of you but unbelievable how your support is
we got many topics where even others have proofs that this guy is a cheater !!!
I apologise but i dont get words to explain how desperated we are that in other side we cannot get back any help any feedback at least somebody can tell us that we dont help ...but nothing !!!!

Please prove yourself that you are helpfull and take the situation in hand .

One more time i mention that we HAVE all the proof that is necessary to prove that we bought the account .
Please contact me at [email protected] or skype : jenckjenck , lfs s2 user :jenck , my brother skype :
galatz.levente , my bro email : [email protected]

(my brother speak littlebit less english ,but i do

Not at last i have to tell you that I APRECIATE VERY VERY MUCH your work (LFS) it is amazing what a good simulation you done ...

Best Regards
Jenci Galatz
(jenck)

Hi
PEOPLE JUST PAY ATTENTION A BIT !!!
THIS TOPIC IS FOR PROVING THAT HOW HELPFULL ARE THE DEVELOPERS OF LFS !!!!!!!!!

We didnt get any feedback after 3 weeks from any ov devs.
Whatewer problem we have ,minimum is to get a small feedback
We cannot reach any of devs ,the pm's is restricted , no phone number , no fax, no mail, no answer from at least an automated server.
If we want to buy after 5 mins its done , in the other side if we need help ... that it UNBELIEVABLE
Just correct me if i'm wrong !

I dont want to blame anybody , but we my brother's account (gmaksi) stolen by kevin (xtreme13) and it was more then 3 weeks ago , we try to get in contact with all of you but unbelievable how your support is
we got many topics where even others have proofs that this guy is a cheater !!!
I apologise but i dont get words to explain how desperated we are that in other side we cannot get back any help any feedback at least somebody can tell us that we dont help ...but nothing !!!!

Please prove yourself that you are helpfull and take the situation in hand .

One more time i mention that we HAVE all the proof that is necessary to prove that we bought the account .
Please contact me at [email protected] or skype : jenckjenck , lfs s2 user :jenck , my brother skype :
galatz.levente , my bro email : [email protected]

(my brother speak littlebit less english ,but i do

Not at last i have to tell you that I APRECIATE VERY VERY MUCH your work (LFS) it is amazing what a good simulation you done ...

Best Regards
Jenci Galatz
(jenck)

To be clear , My brother LFS account was stolen by this KEVIN gay ...and yess we have proof of many kinds ...!!!!
We dont get feedback from more then 2 weeks from devs
Nobody have the right to say that "it is your responsability if your account is stolen " because if so ...why we get that receipt of purchase when we bought the game ???!!!!!
If somebody hacking your account or just stupidly guess your password ..whatewer ..if you bought the GAME and you supported the DEVS with money , and you have the receipt of purchase with the purchase id number then you are the LEGAL OWNER OF that Account !!!!!!!!
One more time ... We got evidences and proof of any kind ...just we cant get answer from devs..

This guy xtreme13 or david989898 really deserve to be banned for life from lfs servers !!!!

We have replays, skype chats, other screenshoots, also the receipt of purchase so...if we cannot proof with those ...than we buy two airplane ticket to Spain !!!! than we resolve the situation by hand


Thanx people who undersand us ...
...for the others ... just dont fall into same cheat ...

PLEASE BAN THIS KEVIN GUY [EXTREME13]



and yess my brother account is GMAKSI ...and we know that kevin gave or sold for others

Best Regard
Jenck Galatz (jenck)