Quote from mutt107 :

my sig says it all.

It does tell us some things about you, agreed.

Edit: Ugh, I won't remove it, but you know, nevermind . I really should know better.

Last edited by GuLLiT, Sun 21 Jun 2009, 18:32. Reason : Somebody wrong on the internets.

Quote from funRacer[83] :

Well looks like today Google isn´t my friend can´t find Netkar Namie only Netkar pro.

But was driving the rFactor one with R29 (Renault Formel 1 2009) nice to drive with an F1 Car for a Rally Track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gGr5eJ1cBw&fmt=22

I've been looking for Namie in the past, and google wasn't my friend either. Luckily I knew about BHMotorsports, however those links were (and are) dead.
I figured Namie had become 'obsolete' and as such wasn't available anymore.

However I think I just found it. I have quickly checked it out, the changelog in the readme led me to believe it was Netkar 0.9.6, however the splashscreen when starting a session shows Namie 0.9.9 .

Here you go.

That three marshalls thingy was very funny I have to say .

Quote from P5YcHoM4N :

Well yes, it is all an assumption, but one based on coming across many vehicles which have had the same treatment. Everyone seems to think they are better at tuning a car than the people who make it and will run to the local prefab supplies folks and slap on harder and lower springs/shocks, bolt on a turbo so big it would be more at home on a 747 plus a BOV which is so restrictive it can be heard a mile away. Then spend all day racing down motorways saying "yah, it handles so much better now" but the second they try and turn, it ends up in a ditch.

The photos are good and I must admit the car looks good (it is refreshing to see a Civic without glitter balls all over it), but odds are it has had the normal "tuning" methods and completely ruined how it drives.

Now that sounds way different I guess we even agree on everything. I am more an innocent until proven guilty kind of guy, but I know what you mean.

Quote from P5YcHoM4N :

I love how he used a bog standard version (sans rear wiper) and most likely spent more on the shiny bits under the engine which just ruin how the car handles because, inevitably, it puts out more power than FWD can handle and the springs/shocks were a 9.99 set from Halfords which just firm up the ride so much you might as well have welded them in position.

So bravo, you took a decentish handling car and turned it into shit.

And where do you get your wise information from, kind sir? Surely you aren't assuming all this .. are you? because that would be pretty .. you can guess.

That's funny, I see something else. I see an american EK hatch, without a bodykit, just stock skirts and bumperlips (although I am not 100% sure the front lip is stock, but whatever, it's just a lip). The hatch wing is stock as well I believe, at least on an EK9 (the Type R model).
I don't like the taillights .. but they are not that bad. Stock (EK9) taillights would finish this car IMHO.
Furthermore, I spot a B-series engine (valve cover is repainted, so it might be the (stock) B16, which has a black cover.), and I spot a turbo. Well, not the turbo itself . And .. power steering.

Is this your car jaxx? If so, nice car , give us some more info.

Quote from Graeme43 :

Yeah I tried DXTweak before but I didn't seem to be able to get it working using Vista It wouldn't apply the changes

It doesn't work with vista .. I think it would burn the clutch anyway. LFS's clutch is no torque converter, so this auto script is more comparable to an automatic manual box, if you are familiar with those. They don't creep.

You could always try to solve this 'problem' the really simple way; with bricks or rubber bands or something.

Quote from Graeme43 :

Loving this does anyone know how to say.... make the accelerator always read something like 5% at minimum so we have the creeping affect? :P thanks

I have a G25, i think theres something for doing that but i cant seem to find it

I haven't tried it, nor am I able to now, but DXTweak maybe?

Quote from Nick. :

How can I get the debug up? I read the readme but it doesn't make sense to me. Where do I put the /gui or whatever?

I'm sorry, I missed this.

There you go. The easiest way is to make the shortcut, if you like the less easy way you could enter it in the runbox (start-run or [win]+[r]).

Quote from Hotrodx199 :

Is there torque converter lock up and unlock?


This is what i mean, which what the torque converter does while driving and when letting off the gas. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz2dFVQUgMk

Well .. you mean the clutch system certain torque converters have? We have that!

No, to be honest, we don't have a torque converter, since LFS doesn't have one. You could keep your clutch a bit pressed, but it would of course just burn it away very quick, leaving you with only torque .

Ahh .. so here it is. I tested and tweaked this a bit a while ago, and since I have been busy and without internet for the past few weeks, I have missed the development.
Let's try out this new version .

I have tried this in the past, and .. I didn't like it for actually driving, too high contrast I guess.

Made me think of a comic though ..

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=224

Quote from Furiously-Fast :

Lol, AE86 + vtec engine swap = EPIC FAIL!

Could you enlighten me as to why that would amount to a fail of epic proportions .. ? (I will admit a B-series engine wouldn't be very logical (let alone the fact all B-series are FWD afaik), an F20c however .. (S2000 engine) I've actually seen one on Best Motoring.)

The funny thing is nobody mentioned the way the engine is mounted. I don't know the correct english word, but this way it would be FWD, maybe AWD. It should of course be rotated 90 degrees, so that the driveshaft would be facing the rear of the car. (however, a normal B-series Transmission would have one facing the front as well)

more ontopic I have played this on and off for years now, there isn't really any competition, much like LFS in my opinion. I have found 2.3.0 LE to be quite buggy, as in you cannot actually play the game (the nightraces etc) with other cars installed .. Lately I have tried 2.2.1 MWM (miran wichur mod, you can get it at redline-racers.info, or a bit older version at gom-team) and I am impressed, I can actually play the game with mods! It does crash sometimes, but nowhere near as much as 2.3.0LE. YMMV I guess.

Quote from Flame CZE :

It seems it is unlocked, have fun

If you are referring to his S2 status, doesn't that mean his username bought the license? That wouldn't say anything about his LFS installation on his computer, or does the status only change if you have unlocked LFS successfully once?

Alain, can you describe what happens, what messages you get etc, when you try to unlock?

Thanks SamH, I thought about this and I (finally) see the problem now. It's so simple I'm almost embarassed I didn't realise this sooner. You cannot warn about not making threads about this particular application, because you would acknowledge its existence. You cannot just close threads with a warning for the same reason.

Btw, no need to apologise I should, and could, have known better.


@lrdbsi
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Now, on with the tweaking.

Quote from SamH :

You're quite right, of course. Only the applications that have been approved by moderators can be discussed on this forum, no others. I've said it myself in this thread before, too...

Is there a list with applications, or do you have to wait and see if your topic survives? I am surprised you responded so soon, since the topic I referred to was open for a few days, I really didn't think it would be just removed like that.

Quote from SamH :

No support for any version of Tweak that does not include licence checking will ever be permitted on this forum. The nature of Tweak and its capabilities undermines the 3-car demo too severely, and cannot be allowed here.

I even discussed it in this topic. D'oh! Sorry. I seem to have missed your post.

That brings me back to the list .. New users, or users who aren't very active (which I could be accused of) do not know which applications are approved. For the record, I totally agree demo users should not be allowed to use LFSTweak, LFS is a bargain as it is in my opinion.

I am glad you are willing to elaborate you should interpret my post as constructive criticism. I do hope you consider my suggestion about adding it to the rules, or perhaps make it a new sticky, that way people who actually read rules will not make the same mistake.

It is clear for me now, thanks for responding .

:bowdown: Thank you sooo very very much. (you are the author of the original right .. ? )

Something else, which wasn't an issue back in the RSC days I believe, we are not allowed to discuss the insim version of LFSTweak at all? A whole topic just disappeared ..
It's not that I don't agree, just that I didn't know, and I cannot find any info on this, nor is there any feedback. Maybe someone could add it to the rules? Something like "Topics regarding LFSTweak without License Protection will be removed without warning". Or perhaps "Licence" if you are British.
Please keep in mind not all users have been here everyday since this forum started, and may not know the 'history' of why things are the way they are . I guess removing topics without feedback doesn't help either, the topic I am talking about was even a few days old already!

I am not looking for a discussion, I am just a bit dissapointed I invested some time for nothing. As anyone would be I guess.

That is correct, this is mentioned before, it doesn't work with the testpatches. Just plain Z at the moment, which you can keep next to your Z10 if you like.

You don't know which engine you have in a car. You know what size it is, how many cylinders it has and in which configuration, and the maximum torque and power figures.

Last edited by GuLLiT, Sat 7 Feb 2009, 16:11. Reason : Beers had drunkened me.

Quote from bmwgutten :

now i have an xrt whit 825hp, and 0,8 in turbo preassure. but how do i get the sound lik this gay has?--->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... &feature=channel_page

I don't know, have you tried CSR? Btw, that 'guy' in the youtube video uses patch y.

Quote from bmwgutten :

how do i know whits engine i have in the car? can any body take a picture of a setup to a rwd? pleasplsplspls

I understand not.

Since LFS only simulates piston engines .. no.
You could build a piston engine which generates the about same top torque and power figures, however I don't think it will be like the real thing. Maybe you could use CSR (Car Sound Remixer iirc) to produce the sound, I don't know, no experience there.
Which engine are you after anyway? The 13B-REW from the RX-7?

@bmwgutten
There is a link in the first post.

Nice engine! At first I thought "wait, a V? that can't be right, a capri has a straight 6!" which of course is wrong the enormous bonnet misled me ..
It's nice to hear it feels similar, although I have no experience with the capri I have had the same experience with some other engines.

I have a question for you though, I found some gear ratio's online, but I wonder if those aren't a bit long? Do you know the actual redline/revlimiter?

1st 3.36
2nd 1.81
3rd 1.26
4th 1.00
5th 0.825
(rev 3.37)
final 3.090

Quote from bmwgutten :

i dont know what net etc you are talking about.. cant you write whitsh whon you have?

Sigh. I don't want to sound mean, but you could try searching yourself.

However, I'll respond once again. Like I said before, I installed al Microsoft .Net Frameworks I could find at that time, I have in my add/remove programs:

Microsoft .Net Framework 1.1
Microsoft .Net Framework Hotfix (KB928366)
Microsoft .Net Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2
Microsoft .Net Framework 3.0 Service Pack 2
Microsoft .Net Framework 3.5 SP1

You can get installers from the microsoft website, you really should be able to find those yourself, good luck .

edit: I just noticed neither me or the first post mentions .Net being a Microsoft framework. If you have never heard of it before I understand the confusion.

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Quote from bmwgutten :

i get an error that the game aint right installed what dos i haf to do to get it working????? pleas answer me thatts what coming up when i try to start tweak
LFSTweakS20.5Z.exe -
(0xc0000135).

A google search on just 0xc00000135 leads me to believe this is an issue with your .Net installation .. ("The application failed to initialize properly" when you start LFSTweak, right?)
As I stated before I installed all .Net packages I could find, so I don't know which one(s) you do need. Or if you actually have any installed .

Quote from danthebangerboy :

That is what i thought before, as you mentioned hp and nm in your helpful post earlier in the thread but i now realised that this is not the case.

What i was asking with with my original post is, what are the actual units of measurement used in tweak? For example, lets say i have set power to 0.1148. What is that. 0.1148 what? is it HP, PS, KW, or is it just a mathematical formula that is generated, and then LFS turns those numbers into the actual measureable units that you see in the garage.

Ahh, I see.
As you probably already know by now, it are just numbers (no units), if it is a formula which in turn generates the actual figures I don't know. Maybe the numbers we tweak in LFSTweak are a result of Scawen's engine settings, I don't know! I'd love to know how the actual engine simulation works, but anyway you get the point.

@freddyalek90

So that would be the 1242cc Ford Sigma (aka Zetec-se, aka Duratec appearantly) engine in the 08+ Fiesta? Delivering 82hp@6000 and 109Nm@3600 .. ? I tried to make it, proved to be quite difficult. I settled for 81hp@6063 and 114Nm@3688.
The thing is, when you have a particular kind of engine, let's say an 1800L4 like the XRG, if you make it smaller it will get 'revvier'. It seems like it only alters the stroke of the engine and leaves the bore alone. That is why it is difficult to accurately recreate a small L4, the smaller the engine the more RPM it wants to make.
Here it is.


Just for fun I made the same 1242 with a little extra power, it has 111hp@6750 and 133Nm@4938, I guess it is comparable to the stock XFG engine.
Here it is.


@danthebangerboy
Are you sure? I can imagine my english not being too clear, and it seems to me you now think you have to input hp an Nm in LFSTweak, correct me of I'm wrong. I don't really know how to make myself much clearer than in my first post, so I hope I'm wrong . If anything I could have realized earlier we don't all use hp and Nm.

@Jonny
I'm afraid LFSTweak isn't officialy available for demo users (I don't really know the details but I see the point), so I cannot really help you with that. I can say though that if you buy LFS (I could say you already should have, but I'm not going to bother ) and use the insim LFSTweak, you'll find your revs between cylinders and fuel tank in single car editor. Take a look at the 2jgze I posted earlier, there it is.