Quote from Framaris :

That's your decision, but you know I believe that bans only works when fairly given and when ppls learn from them, so I don't really agree with you banning him for something he hasn't done (yet)...HIR and R2R is enough for now, I hope he will learn and improve on other servers...give him a chance maybe...

I just wish that when someone has a problem they would try to resolve it in a more mature way, we all have websites and forum where you can discuss and post replay, so why always trying to expose negatively a team or a server on this forum...I don't get it and the consequences are often irreversible...

About the websides of course,i visit yours but there was no place for complain so i choose to put the replay here in order to see it az you have done.That's why i do it here,also i tried to to same thing with the IHR servers and know what?For the complain there i go 5-10 day extension of my ban.So you understand why i do thecomment here,AND ONCE AGAIN R2R is an Awesome server,i dont deny that,so Framaris i dont wanna make bad name of your server,and if i did it accept my apologies!

Last edited by nofear88bg, Mon 1 Feb 2010, 19:41.

Framaris i respect your server man,but that was unfair why Mac banned me 2 times,I mean 1 that a few days ago for lag,and for yestoday when watching the replay see inferno slowing down on purpouse at the streight and thats why i told him if he doesn't going to race to spec and hop a ban cool,what a petty that mac is 55 year old.And after that i got mad for this and sent him the massage,because the ban wasnt neccesary so i decided to deserve the ban and that's it.

Everything cool about the server.But yestoday we sow and INTRIQE made by the general(from team inferno) and confirmed by r2r Mac that's very kind of their side.
P.S. Don't argue with Mac because he has the mind of 10 year old child and he will not understand what are you talking about!

Last edited by nofear88bg, Sun 31 Jan 2010, 23:15.

Quote from garph :

Yeah but the incident was an accident, if anything you caused it then wanted someone else banned for it.

You got a ban for swearing, taking into account your history a decision was made on the length of time which you don't think is fair.

Instead of politely asking for clarification or a shortening of the ban you've started multiple threads, many, many posts insulting the people who take time and money out of their lives so you have a server to race in.

Why should they listen you to you after that, why should they let you race?

Everybody has a differen opinion that's why i started the topic.And you are right they will decide if i will be racing again there it is their right,but the some of the actions are unfair for me.

Quote from garph :

You want a specific rule that defines the length of a ban, they don't have them. They use their derision, taking the users history and each incident into account.

It sounds like you've been watched for a while now. Your attitude after the incident was bad, it seems to continue now, you feel you've been wronged and are shouting to anyone who will listen and not listening to anyone.

Why would they want you back in their server after this? I wouldn't. They don't have to let you race their.

...Man everyone has some rights and he/she should defend them...Have it in mind...If you don't you are "stupid".Think about that.

Quote from Kristi :

It DOES matter when you crash. For example crashing someone in the very last turns and making up his race, and wasting 5 minutes or 10 of his life is not the same as you crash someone after the race and he takes wrong route and just joins and goes to next race. Feel the difference?

Just let ya know everythin happens at the second turn after the start so the things you say doesn't matter you know what is in T1 and T2 so have it in mind.

Quote from ChiliFan :

Out of interest, can we have a bit more le-way on the swearing thing? "Cock" is generally not regarded as kick-worthy as far as I know. I was greatly amused that I could say "knobjockey" though.

Man there is no point of argueing...it doesn't matter for the admins they dont care...They ban whoever they do not like...its like the real world...

Quote from Kristi :

Crashing in race is not post race crashing. End of story

I whink it is concidered as a crash now matter when,so i am getting the point.Their server,they do whatever they want,no one can tell them nothing...users like me can't protest in order they will get additional days,nice server but poor administration(of course not all there are some cool admins,but they are rare nowadays...)Keep going the same ways...

Quote from menantoll :

How many times do you have to be told before you will understand it?

You were not given a 30 day ban JUST for swearing

You were not given a 30 day ban JUST for swearing

You were not given a 30 day ban JUST for swearing

You were not given a 30 day ban JUST for swearing


Also where do you get the 7 day for crashing thing from?

When you connect to server there are 5 rules shown and the last one tells - Post-crashing = 7 days ban
You don't even known your own rules...what a pity...

Quote from menantoll :

There are no rules for timing of bans.

You answered my quiestion i appriciqate it.Ok then who desides the timing? For crashing is 7 day for swear 30?How is that thing happen and who decide the timing?Is this fair as a whole?

Quote from menantoll :

You are obviously trolling so I will ignore you from now on.



Your question has been answered already, The rules state

1.2 No swearing of any kind.

1.3 No insulting of other people in server.

But as has already been stated and put so well by havoc on our forum



You asked for another admin to comment so I did. Then it appeared that I wasn't good enough for you. I increased your ban because you won't listen to what you are being told it's a thing adults do with children to get them to stop and think a bit.

Now go back and read all three threads (yes there are now 3) from the start to finish and maybe you will get the fact that the person who banned you took all of your incidents into consideration when deciding on a length and not just this one incident when you insulted someone for not avoiding you when you crashed.

But of course you will ignore...hah.. that's the easyest way run away from the problem and still nobody tell where are the rules for the timing of the bans,and thats what i ask and i can say you have missing in the rules,and you see it so you avoid anwering am i right?

Quote from zeugnimod :

I'd say he has already been acting like an ass in all of his posts in this thread.

How you get to this oppinion?I Tried to discuss it in their forum and what?!I got 5 more days come on where we should write in that case?!

Quote from menantoll :

Why would I deny what I write on our forum when it is open for all to read?

I will not talk about your ban here as this is not the place to do so.

You do not talk anywhere this is not right and still doesnt answer my quistion!
And i discussed it here in order to let people know the attetude of IHR admins to have it in mind and also if someone do his job!
P.S isn't this the lfs comunity?! So the topic is at right place!

Quote from The Very End :

I think the reason is that they don't want to start a flamewar and arguing back and forth. I advice you to send them PM's, most likely they will answer there

Man no one answers just menatoll now i have a topic there no explanation of my asking there its a bit strange isnt it?

Quote from menantoll :

On IHR server we have a no abusive behaviour rule and a swear filter in place to autokick the words we don't want used.

Our philosophy is that if we try to get racers to be respectful off the track then we hope they can be respectful on the track. Our goal, as many other server owners, is to create a happy and clean racing environment where people can have fun.

It matters not that the word can be used here many times, we set the rules on our server and the devs set the rules here. See the difference?

Also as has been pointed out, he has been on our watch list for a while so if you think the 30 day ban is purely for the swearing in that replay then you are very mistaken and I suggest you appologise for calling Havoc retarded.



Thank you for clearing that one up.


Mods can you now lock this for the obvious reasons please.

Boyz just see one of the amins what has written to me in their forum:
My username is the name I use here, I don't use any other so I am who I appear to be.

"I have just increased your ban to 35 days. Do you want to continue arguing?"
This is written by menantoll
I guess this is the way to tell someone to shut up isn't it?! WHat an attetude...Thats not the way man you have teribly mistaken!
Here is the screen if the admin denies!

Last edited by nofear88bg, Sun 17 Jan 2010, 09:36.

Quote from The Very End :

We all know your perfect, that's why we are FB's you handsome hunk

Either way, let's end it there. The case is closed and there is no need for us others to go against eachothers.

Case closed nice one,but no one answer my question why are the IHR administrators so silent?Isn't it strange?Or maybe they are now writhing the rules

Quote from menantoll :

On IHR server we have a no abusive behaviour rule and a swear filter in place to autokick the words we don't want used.

Our philosophy is that if we try to get racers to be respectful off the track then we hope they can be respectful on the track. Our goal, as many other server owners, is to create a happy and clean racing environment where people can have fun.

It matters not that the word can be used here many times, we set the rules on our server and the devs set the rules here. See the difference?

Also as has been pointed out, he has been on our watch list for a while so if you think the 30 day ban is purely for the swearing in that replay then you are very mistaken and I suggest you appologise for calling Havoc retarded.



Thank you for clearing that one up.


Mods can you now lock this for the obvious reasons please.

Ok i am asking again where are the exact rules for banning?!I Clearly saw that for crashing is 1 week you wanna tell me that 1 month is fair?Every day there is abuse language there and most i have seen is kick come on boyz let we be fair - where are these rules???

Quote from obsolum :

Yes, admins make mistakes, too. They're only human, after all.

Anyway, from looking at this list it looks like you're not the cleanest racer there is.

As for the incident itself (I watched the replay), you rubbed the barriers, went wide in the chicane and there was no way the guy behind you could avoid you. Incidents like that happen a lot in that spot, it was just unlucky that LFS' buggy collision detection decided to launch you into orbit.

It seems to me you're awfully quick to point the finger at someone in case of an incident/accident and demand bans or kicks. That kind of behaviour usually doesn't sit well with admins.

And, in the end (it's been said countless times before): it's their server, they can do whatever they want to whomever they want when they want for whatever reason. Racing on any server is a privilege granted to you by that server's admin (the people who pay for that server), it's not a right.

Also, did anyone notice it says "P V L 2" for account in this list? That's a different person if I'm not mistaken.

Thanks for the obective opinion.PVL2 was an acc i used 1 year for free,one good friend gave it to me,and now i use my own one so this doen't matter

Quote from lamerr :

Were this guy not just other day posting something about FM admins banning him, and now today posting something about IHR admins banning him? Or is my washed memory still pretty washed up?

As much as your memory let we refresh it.I was banned without being in race or even swear talk or etc.(just specing the race to see the cornering to be exact).That's why i was wondering now your memory refreshed?!

Quote from z-ro 8 :

as already posted, the rules are here.

and yer working on 60 days as i can feel the devs stepping in soon.

Thats still don't answer my quiestion who decides how many days or permanent a ban should be?Will you answer?!
P.S. I don't care even if i would be banned permanenly!The point of all that is to show that even admins dont know when ban is needed and it's timing am i right?!?

Last edited by nofear88bg, Sun 17 Jan 2010, 04:51.

Quote from Live for Weed :

lol btw. i piss my pants where i saw u flying oob and than crying admin ban.... and than i stopped the replay... coz wet pants are not good @my seat so pls **** ***!
ur stupid have a good night

Go buy dipers and night to you

Quote from Live for Weed :

lol do i swear... sorry but was ur own fault so pls ... shhhh
and u call an admin bastard... also short after the crash, which was ur own fault... u call admin... ban... without any reason man!!!! but ur own fault that u call him bastard so
hahahaha
and pls dont call me little... u dont know what u tell there ... [FU] POWAAHHH

Havent called the admin bastard you sre so stupid i called the driver forgot the name not the admin and i argue for that because there are no rulez for the banning in the server now got the point?!

Quote from jasonmatthews :

You are wrong and also blind. I have been watching Smiley for a few weeks, and he certainly deserves his ban, so maybe you are the one who looks stupid, as anyone who frequents the IHR servers knows I am saying the truth, whilst you are either deluded or mad

The IHR servers or havoc your friend.I smell a conspiratin here

Quote from Live for Weed :

hahahaha thats the best replay xDDDD

nofear,smiley whatever... dont cry here ur crap man. can u hear me? that was ur own fault... man !!!! pls shut up... dont cry. u call him bastard so u must live with the 30days...

ROFLPIMP!!!!

lol z-ero why u answer this .... shhh calm down weedy gonzales .... blub blub(take a head from the bong..) Marie Jane 2m LOL!

never saw a crap, crapy, omg to crap to be crap... crash man....
u must get a award for damn crap 1st lap ever....
lol i saw alot of ppl who cant drive, also with keyboard like u... but never saw that...

hahaha i LOVE U;---)

First don't swear!You are too little to do that,second There are no rulez of the server this is the point Boyz read before posting you look stupid other way!

Quote from jasonmatthews :

You are perfectly correct, I didn't watch the replay, and also had no need to. He got banned for REPEATED abuses of the server rules... I know this from watching him arguing repeatedly over a few weeks :P

I am not perfect, and make plenty of mistakes which I almost always apologise for, but in the few times I mistakenly think the worse of someone, I take a look at the replay and apologise afterwards... That is the difference, mistakes are allowed, but bad manners can be only tolerated for so long before it is an issue to any decent server admin.

Man just an advice do not take a part in dicusiion if you do not know the evidence,you look stupid dont do it no bad feelings,but before answer you have to read!