So, I reinstalled LFS, and downloaded the latest drivers from logitech and still no joy.
As previously mentioned, I don't think this steering wheel (or drivers) can handle multiple FF effects simultaneously. Riding kerbs with some steering lock and you don't feel the kerbs make the wheel rumble. This happens fine when the wheel is straight ahead.
Nor have I managed to create the understeer/weight feel from the wheel. The force applied seems to be constant all the way around a corner which makes the game massively unsatisfying.
This is either a drivers issue or a technical issue with the steering wheel (design quirk?) the old Sidewinder FF handled LFS FFB x100 better.
As previously mentioned, I don't think this steering wheel (or drivers) can handle multiple FF effects simultaneously. Riding kerbs with some steering lock and you don't feel the kerbs make the wheel rumble. This happens fine when the wheel is straight ahead.
Nor have I managed to create the understeer/weight feel from the wheel. The force applied seems to be constant all the way around a corner which makes the game massively unsatisfying.
This is either a drivers issue or a technical issue with the steering wheel (design quirk?) the old Sidewinder FF handled LFS FFB x100 better.
Thanks, I was my plan to get it a reinstall this evening. Ill report on progress!
Hi,
Bunder9999:
I have tried with and without the profiler on. The profiler settings are exactly as per the link (strength 101). From the ingame control options I have varied these all over the shop, still no joy.
AndriodXP:
I will try over the weekend increasing the FF force up to 115 (from 101) and see if that makes any improvements.
I will definitely now try my old sidewinder again, atleast this way I can verify if LSF is at fault with the rumble effects being lost when a constant force is applied or if the G25 cannot handle a constant force and rumble. I hope it’s not the latter as the old sidewinder with 1 motor could! And it’d be a shame if the G25 can’t.
Bunder9999:
I have tried with and without the profiler on. The profiler settings are exactly as per the link (strength 101). From the ingame control options I have varied these all over the shop, still no joy.
AndriodXP:
I will try over the weekend increasing the FF force up to 115 (from 101) and see if that makes any improvements.
I will definitely now try my old sidewinder again, atleast this way I can verify if LSF is at fault with the rumble effects being lost when a constant force is applied or if the G25 cannot handle a constant force and rumble. I hope it’s not the latter as the old sidewinder with 1 motor could! And it’d be a shame if the G25 can’t.
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Reason : typo!
Sidewinder > G25 ?!
I’m an old LFS S2 user making a comeback to the show. I used to race with a MS Sidewinder FFB usb steering wheel. The pedals were weak but the FFB was strong and the realism/feel was through the roof. However because I couldn’t find any suitable drivers for it, the game sometimes had problems recognising the throttle/brake axis’s separately. The wheel was loud and crude but the “feel” of the car was spot on.
I recently took delivery of the G25 steering wheel with an intended comeback to LFS and occasional ps3 GT5p fun however I was soon disappointed. I followed various settings posted on the internet/forums and have not found settings that even remotely get close to the Sidewinder. The quality of the G25 is awesome, leagues ahead of the Sidewinder but the following are my complaints:
In LFS:
1. When the car rides over kerbs there is no rumble feedback through the steering wheel (when you have some steering lock on) When the wheel is straight ahead I feel mild kerb rumble, but this does not vary much with the strength adjustment in options. (I set it at 200 and I was disappointed my wrists weren’t broken!)
2. It seems no settings enable the wheel to transmit the grip of the front wheels. The sidewinder seemed excellent at varying the force on the wheel depending on how much grip the front tyres had. So, high grip the steering would be heavy but as soon as you lose grip and start understeering the wheel would progressively go lighter, communicating the available grip. Also underbraking when the rear of the car begins to step out this is not quickly or clearly communicated as was the case with the sidewinder. This may be because of the cars setup but I recall the sidewinder being informative with a default setup and got better once the car was properly set up.
3. The force feedback strength is just about okay..but for the cost of the wheel I would expect it to be adjustable from Zero FF to hand braking levels of FFB! , okay maybe not that high but the sidewinder seems more powerful.
Points 1 and 2 especially detract from my LFS experience but I’m struggling to understand why given the cost of the wheel, the rave reviews and correct settings the wheel feels lifeless!
Not for this place, but in GT5p the feel is slightly better, and no end improvement over the control pad, but it still falls far short of the LFS + Sidewinder experience.
The pedals/paddles are all top notch, but unless I can find a solution to the above I may have to put the G25 up for auction with near 12 months warranty!
I was trying to find my pedals/power adaptor to the sidewinder so I could make a direct comparison as maybe something was lost in the numerous updates issued since I last played, but they still remain hidden.
Any suggestions will be most welcome.
I recently took delivery of the G25 steering wheel with an intended comeback to LFS and occasional ps3 GT5p fun however I was soon disappointed. I followed various settings posted on the internet/forums and have not found settings that even remotely get close to the Sidewinder. The quality of the G25 is awesome, leagues ahead of the Sidewinder but the following are my complaints:
In LFS:
1. When the car rides over kerbs there is no rumble feedback through the steering wheel (when you have some steering lock on) When the wheel is straight ahead I feel mild kerb rumble, but this does not vary much with the strength adjustment in options. (I set it at 200 and I was disappointed my wrists weren’t broken!)
2. It seems no settings enable the wheel to transmit the grip of the front wheels. The sidewinder seemed excellent at varying the force on the wheel depending on how much grip the front tyres had. So, high grip the steering would be heavy but as soon as you lose grip and start understeering the wheel would progressively go lighter, communicating the available grip. Also underbraking when the rear of the car begins to step out this is not quickly or clearly communicated as was the case with the sidewinder. This may be because of the cars setup but I recall the sidewinder being informative with a default setup and got better once the car was properly set up.
3. The force feedback strength is just about okay..but for the cost of the wheel I would expect it to be adjustable from Zero FF to hand braking levels of FFB! , okay maybe not that high but the sidewinder seems more powerful.
Points 1 and 2 especially detract from my LFS experience but I’m struggling to understand why given the cost of the wheel, the rave reviews and correct settings the wheel feels lifeless!
Not for this place, but in GT5p the feel is slightly better, and no end improvement over the control pad, but it still falls far short of the LFS + Sidewinder experience.
The pedals/paddles are all top notch, but unless I can find a solution to the above I may have to put the G25 up for auction with near 12 months warranty!
I was trying to find my pedals/power adaptor to the sidewinder so I could make a direct comparison as maybe something was lost in the numerous updates issued since I last played, but they still remain hidden.
Any suggestions will be most welcome.
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