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MadCat360
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Quote from Shotglass :

it is random thats why you end up with the ridiculous argument that evolution is impossible if you calculate the probability of this planet ending up in exactly the state its in right now assuming that this is the only way it could have gone

If it were random we could not predict what would happen next. We CAN predict what will happen next, therefore it is NOT random. Our reality is probabilistic, not random.

The probability argument is ridiculous. It falls into anthropic reasoning, because there must be the conditions for life in order for life to observe that there are the conditions for life (and to figure that they are rare)! The universe is **** huge. Every configuration of matter that is possible does exist, somewhere, somehow. That includes life. It is not surprising that one of the quintillion planets in the cosmos looks like earth. We KNOW we are rare, but given the size and scope of the universe, we are almost a certainty at some point, somewhere. Our atoms are very lucky, sure, but remember, without that luck we wouldn't even be around to observe it, so it's a moot point.
MadCat360
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Quote from Shotglass :

Quote :* Actually fitness refers to a technical term in biology. "Fitness" is the entity's aptitude to reach reproduction age and to then subsequently reproduce *successfully*. Fitness can be quantified for the species by the statistics of death before reproduction age, and by the reproduction rate. If the offspring is stillborn then one or both of the mating pair were unfit.

adds nothing to the etymology of where fitness as a biological term comes from and why it has nothing to do with strength

Hahaha, your denial is kind of cute. I explained where it comes from and what it means, and you say I didn't. Reminds me of Bill O'Reilly.

It does have a little to do with strength, as that can help get an organism laid. Anything that helps the organism reproduce is related to fitness. Intelligence and social prowess are also on the list.
MadCat360
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Quote from Shotglass :
Quote :Why isn't random chance allowed in divergent evolution?

uh? random chance is the entire way evolution works

No, it's not. It's random mutation tempered by natural selection, or in other words, the natural conditions. It it were truly random we would be a mess, genetically and physiologically.

There is also artificial selection, like what we do to dog and horses and corn.

You simply cannot have an effective species without some kind of evolutionary pressure that encourages a decent amount of the population to have a skill or ability to improve the fitness* of the individuals, group, tribe, or even the entire species. See long-necked animals arising once trees entered the picture (trees entered the flora population somewhat late). Animals acquired their longer necks by chance, but the environmental pressure that encouraged the genes to populate the rest of the species was not random. The ability to eat food that no other creature can is a very powerful one, and removes you from a whole host of potential famine situations.

Of course the environment is not conscious, it's not actively planning the evolutions of species, but it does have organism-ish characteristics because it is by and large run by and made up of organisms (algae and mosses and bacteria and such make it possible for us to live, for instance).


Quote from Shotglass :
Quote from Racer Y :"Survival of the fittest" should be rephrased as "survival of the more adequate".

fit in survival of the fittest means survival of the one who fits the niche hes in best not the one whos the most buff

* Actually fitness refers to a technical term in biology. "Fitness" is the entity's aptitude to reach reproduction age and to then subsequently reproduce *successfully*. Fitness can be quantified for the species by the statistics of death before reproduction age, and by the reproduction rate. If the offspring is stillborn then one or both of the mating pair were unfit.
MadCat360
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The S/C alone is 1 GB... most of the AC stock cars are 1/10th that.

Dafuq?
MadCat360
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Quote from amp88 :Nope, not at the 2 venues I've been to - just needed to pay an entry fee or be a member of the club running the event.

Man if that was the case out here I would go to every event. Here it's just a lot of standing in the sun running around after cones.


Quote from tristancliffe :
I could run you in a car for ~£2000 per day. Very cheap!!

For a mid-level Formula car that is very cheap. You'll pay around $10k out here for a Star Mazda test day.
MadCat360
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Quote from amp88 :Autocross/autotesting is pretty cheap (here in Scotland at least). I've seen plenty of people drive their own cars to the tracks, thrash about for a few runs and drive home. Or you could go the other route and get a cheap trailer and tow vehicle (if your daily driver won't serve as one). Either of these options would be affordable for most people. Depending on your initial cost (which will depend on which route you go down) and how many events you attend a year, your cost-per-event can be very low (potentially <£100 per event (total cost) amortised over a few years). You're also more in control of your own destiny this way (less chance of being run into by someone else who doesn't care).

Do they require you to work the course at autocross over there? The clubs here make the game cheap by charging small entry fees, allowing 3-4 runs (5 mins track time), then have you work for 1.5 hours catching cones for other cars. I got fed up with it years ago and stopped doing autocross.
MadCat360
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Quote from Bmxtwins :You can buy a brand new honda civic for not much more than $15,000. You would be better off putting a down payment on that, monthly payments, and get racing insurance.

... and on the first track day the brakes will overheat, warp, and need replacement. The eco-tires will chunk, the steel wheels will be at much larger risk of bending, and you will have a host of other problems that will arise in the first 3 - 5 track days that are specific weaknesses of the particular model (every car has them to varying degrees, even the super-thrash-happy E30s and Miatas). You wouldn't even get me to drive a stock Civic on a track for fear of lack of prep, let alone take my own Civic out there. Even the Si is not ready for the track. I drove a Scion TC as a pace car a few weeks ago for a Lotus race, and even after the pace lap I had little confidence in the brakes.

I coach track day drivers for a living. I've seen all of the "I want to get on track for X amount of dollars" schemes go up in flames, and I have experienced many of those situations myself. Even a stock BMW M3 is not capable for handling a fast or abusive driver right out of the box at some tracks with lots of grip, like Laguna. *Everything* breaks, and track days make them break a hell of a lot faster. As a result, you don't run anything on a track that you can't afford to replace tomorrow. If you don't, you're asking for it, especially if it's your daily.

If you want to pony up the few hundred bucks per event that it will cost to insure your car, go ahead. That only covers crash damage, so your maintenance costs are still going to be high. Still, if you lose brakes and kill your pride and joy, at least you could get a replacement, and hopefully you didn't spend the value of the car on your premium by that point.
MadCat360
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Quote from Bmxtwins :That's not really affordable, is it?

There is NO affordable motorsport.* That's how it is.

Either you spend that much tracking your own car (which could get way more expensive depending on what you break), or you spend that much tracking someone else's car.

$500 per day gets you 10 track days per year for $5,000, not including entry fee which is the same for both methods. I dare you to find any beater that will survive a schedule like that for less than $5,000 after purchase and fix-up. Your tire cost alone could be that much if you wanted to splooge on R-comps.

And for the $500, you're getting a car that is race ready. Not some stock Miata or Honda that handles like, comparatively, crap, and will need brakes and hoses and belts and all that crap because it's an old beater.


* well you could make a case for pocket bike racing, but that's still a much more expensive hobby than almost anything else
MadCat360
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Plenty of shops offer cars for rent for track days. Get one of them.

For instance, here Miatas are typically the track day rental, and a caged/lowered Miata will rent for around $500-$700 per day.
MadCat360
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I instruct a karting school for a living. Number one way to avoid fatigue in a kart is to let your body lean into the seat. Lean back, and let the G forces push you side to side. Don't lean in to a corner, let your weight go to the outside of the seat. It helps the handling of the kart (jacking rear tire in the air) and it means the seat supports you. If you lean forward to get "up on the wheel", your torso has to do all the work to support you. Just relax.

Also don't grip the wheel any harder than you have to. Nothing makes your arms go numb faster than a death grip on the wheel. Stretch your fingers on every straight. If they allow you to drive without gloves, drive without gloves. You get a better grip on most wheels (especially cheap ones with plastic for grips).
MadCat360
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Quote from DaveWS :Haven't managed to play much of AC lately, but after jumping on today, I have a question. Am I the only one who thinks all the cars have too much tractive grip? I can floor the throttle in 1st gear in the M5 for example and barely have any wheelspin. I've got TC off of course. It's the same deal in every car. I feel like I can stamp on the power without worry.

If you just jumped on and drove, the car may have had semislicks as default. Make sure it's set to street tires.
MadCat360
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Yes, he's basically gone from the cheapest horsepower mod (chips), straight to the most expensive mod (engine swap).

It may only be a few hundred euros to buy the lump, but making it work is a lot tougher and more expensive than that...

Anyway, if I recall right the 150hp motor is the 2-liter, while you have the 1.6. The 2013 engine is also using the SkyActiv development.
MadCat360
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Oculus has it's own IR tracking camera/sensor system.
MadCat360
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Quote from Bean0 :Except they said it was ready to go last week, but their server provider couldn't offer support due to the holidays.

I'd happily take last weeks working version

Well, now we know that the real reason why it was not released last week. It wasn't ready. the holiday thing was just bullshit to stall.
MadCat360
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Quote from Hyperactive :So instead of actual measurable technical facts it becomes a question of righteousness and fairness? You say you prefer things that make you faster but at the same time some things are unfair or wrong like traction control, electronic diffs and all other electronic gizmos despite the fact they make you faster? To me it sounds fast or slow actually makes no difference to you. To me seems to be all about some righteous way of how a car should be driven. "Amazing lap time but you drove it wrong".

Yup, it really is a classic case of cognitive dissonance. He can't comprehend how easy the other computerized systems make his life and yet he can't dispose of his distaste for computerized traction management.

If this was the 1930s he would be one of those dudes still rocking an open differential and denouncing the cam and pawl. All while losing to said LSD...
MadCat360
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Quote from tristancliffe :Ah, Reductio ad Absurdum.

Whilst I suppose you could call engine management a driver aid, you know perfectly what I meant. But I guess being stupid is the new cool. You're the coolest!

Insults usually come from a frustration about one's own opinions. It's that cognitive dissonance I talked about. Its not really your fault, you just have no idea how to reconcile your good opinions of things that make driving easier (I would presume you enjoy disk brakes and fuel injection) with your bad opinions (ABS and stability control). Its human nature.

I personally enjoy anything that makes me faster or the car more reliable.
MadCat360
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Quote from tristancliffe :And it doesn't have traction control, yaw control, ABS, active differentials, active aero... So it passes the test.

It has advanced engine management and shifter paddles. It's total easy mode.

I only race cars with a manual timing advance on the steering wheel and direct drive!

Transmissions, differentials, fuel injection, aerodynamics, downforce, self-adjusting brakes... all easy mode driver aids for pussies. Real men don't even need a temperature gauge, they feel the heat of the motor through their feet and how it smells!

Actually, **** cars! they are just runner-aids! Real men sprint through the grand prix!
MadCat360
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Quote from Keling :R35 has two active LSDs plus one active center coupler, all of which are quite fast and strong, providing 3 DoF across the whole AWD system. I can't think of another road sports car with a drive-line layout offering such control ability to the algorithm. Ferrari FF might be as close as you can get in terms of layout design, but it's still pure RWD most of the time and the cute front can't do much. The EVO has more aggressive control than R35 on the rear thanks to asymmetric AYC couplers, but there's no active front LSD.

You missed the point. The Ferrari has the same ability to alter the attitude of the car, and does so (not so subtley, I might add). Why is that a dream to drive but the Nissan is intrusive and lame? People have a huge cognitive dissonance over this. No one seems to think that computer controlled suspension is bad (12c), but torque vectoring to make a very powerful AWD platform less pushy and lame is... lame?

I mean seriously. Imagine if the R35 had a viscous center with Torsens on each end. You'd get on the gas and it would push like a 500hp FWD car. It would be super lame. The vectoring makes it responsive and awesome. But somehow that's interfering.

The new 911 has all wheel steer, and people seem to like that. That system is directly interfering with your steering control by choosing to steer out or steer in depending on what it thinks you want and people don't see it that way. It's amazing.
MadCat360
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Quote from tristancliffe :Oooh... Maybe the Deltawing/ZEOD thing. I can't think of a decent Nissan otherwise. I think they're most famous for the driver aids calculator on wheels, but I can't imagine how anyone who enjoys driving even a tiny bit could like that.

There's lots of cool Nissans. The Z series, the GTP and le Mans race cars from the 80s and 90s, The Datsun 510 and the original 60's Skyline to name a few...

And the R35 has no more or less gizmos than any Ferrari or Lambo... it's all about marketing. The F430 Scud has practically the same smart diff and everything. Strictly speaking the McLaren 12c is way more computerized than anything and that car is a hoot.
MadCat360
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Quote from Hotdogxx60 :Steam going under is a good example of losing your account even though it maybe remote.

That's not what I'm saying. The license to play the game is above any user account on any online service. If Steam (or any other service) goes under, you retain all the rights you purchased. Steam legally has to allow you to continue playing the game.

Check out the full text of a license agreement next time you install a game, it's very illuminating as to how exactly it all works. For instance, when Direct2Drive shut down, everyone got transfer codes or account transfers for Gamefly (who ended up buying the infrastructure anyway). When OnLive shut down temporarily, they gave folks the option of getting a refund on any content or just waiting for the service to come back (I seem to recall it was down for a couple months while they relaunched).

You won't ever lose the content licensest you buy on Steam, ever. Even if they go kaput.
MadCat360
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Quote from Hotdogxx60 :I have had a dislike for steam when I had way back at the beginning of it life.
It may have improved a lot but is it true that if I purchase a game on steam I don't own it.
For what ever reason I may have my account stopped at all the stuff I have purchased is gone.
If that's not true then I'll give steam another go.

You don't own anything on your computer except for content that you create.

Purchasing a game is only purchasing the right to use (license) a copy of it.

Valve cannot remove these licenses from you. That license is between you and the owner of the content. they can restrict you from using Steam services (matchmaking etc), but they can't stop you from using your games. If they ever go under (extremely unlikely at this point) you will get to keep all the licenses you purchased - most likely in the form of a publisher transfer code (for Origin, direct download, etc).
MadCat360
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Curbs seem fine to me. The problem is the weird bouncing the car does when it lands. The 458 S3 at Monza, in the second chicane, always gets me. I go over the curb on the right, clip the curb, and the car just continues bouncing and bouncing, all the way out the the exit.
MadCat360
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Quote from troy :http://youtu.be/tIjHf2cgexM Exos on Joux Plane

Kudos for jumping the shit out of an F1 car.
MadCat360
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I just upgrade my GPU every 2 or 3 years, almost never with top of the line (780, etc), and eventually when my CPU becomes a bottleneck I upgrade that, plus the motherboard and the memory. I find it spreads out the cost fairly well. CPU upgrades are not needed a lot of the time. I ran my single core AMD for 5 years or more, and I ran my last dual core Intel for almost 5 years. Pretty good shelf life for a ~$400 upgrade (mobo + CPU + memory all at the same time). Since 2001 I've only owned like 4 CPUs.

The #60 GPUs from nVidia for the last few generations have been pretty killer on the price/performance ratio. I got my 560Ti factory OC for like $230 when it came out and it's served me really well so far. The new 760 is really powerful, and should last a good few years as well.
MadCat360
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Quote from Tyrone Johnson :Too much work for playing games.

For some of us simulators are part of work. Especially for the young professional driver!

I'm envious, Tommy. I gotta get me one of them ClubSport wheels!
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