Anyone managed to use lfsw on the iPhone?

Quote from Scawen :

Hi there.

I'll "break the silence"... though I do think I said something quite recently.

There's really nothing to report, that's why we don't report anything. I've been continuing with the tyre physics. It's a mathematically based model as you know. That involves assumptions and simplifications to make it workable. During testing we found some extreme situations where the assumptions used caused a breakdown of the output forces. It turned out that the extreme situations can actually come up quite often. I don't really want to go into detail, I've been working on the model and studying the situations where things go wrong.

My work rate has not been very high these few months, I admit. For a while I seemed to fix something, it started to look good then on further investigation and analysis, another problem showed up. That kind of stumbling block caused me to take a break while I tried to get my head around it, to try another approach. The new approach might work or might not and I needed to think again. In those thinking times I didn't just sit here pushing myself until i came up with answers, instead I just sorted out other things unrelated to LFS. At this point in life in am not motivated to sort of sit there and pull my hair out and bang my head against a wall until the solution appears, I'd prefer to just do something else, running the problem over in my mind until I know what do do. That way I can make progress gradually without the frustration that can be experienced by someone who is stuck but needs to produce solutions in a given time.

It's not worth releasing a model with fatal flaws that make it worse than the current model in some situations, even though the on-track normal driving feel is better than the old tyre model.

Unfortunately the slow progress with the physics does delay the release of the Scirocco and Rockingham, but it can't really be helped. What I really want to do is get those improvements out there and then work on some more fun things I've been thinking about. You'll understand I can't comment on future things that may or may not happen, but there are things I want to do but can't until this hard stuff is out of the way.

About slow progress... some people comment how progress is so unbelievably and ridiculously slow... well I guess that means there must be a whole lot of sims out there that have overtaken LFS in nearly every way. If so, you can use them for a while, that's why we have an email notification when a patch is released. If people "leave" LFS that is fine. That kind of thing really can't be something I can get worried about. All I can do is work on the things I need to do, to get LFS to a level we are happy with, then release the updates. Sometimes that is delayed by obstacles as I described before, and sometimes by other things that come up in life generally. With two children and a house to look after, things that go wrong, guests that visit occasionally and that kind of thing, it's true that I don't do the same hours that I used to in the early days, when LFS was my hobby, my passion and my work all in one. Now it's more my work, I have other interests as well and there are now other things in life that are more important, but LFS is something I want to be proud of. Something that I want out there and being enjoyed.

Anyway, we have not died and we are not sipping cocktails on a tropical beach. Actually we are working on LFS. I'm developing the physics, Victor is keep things running, Eric is working on things too. We've done a load of work that we want to release, partly for the excitement of it, but we also have mortgages and other bills to pay and the releases will increase sales, so financially it would also be a great idea to get it out there!

Nothing else I can do do really, I'm just trying to get my current LFS projects finished and released. Threats of people "leaving" LFS, predictions of impending doom and so on don't really make any difference. I'm not about to release unfinished stuff and I will still get plently of sleep and relaxation time, and look after the other things I need to look after and develop LFS physics in whatever time it takes. Then we'll get there in the end and we'll send a notification email when the patch is ready, so you can all have a go on an improved LFS with more content.

Thanks for the info. Now I know what is happening .
Take your time and release the patch when it is finished

Oh god. Yes, please close this thread.

Quote from Marco1 :

Hello guys,

sry BUT WTF U WANT ??!!
if you dont like the development speed from Live For Speed SWITCH THE GAME !

no one said that u must play it

and i think Victor,Scawen and Eric dont stand up every morning and Developing the game this guys havent made her hobby to her Job ... maybe this guy have a family ? or some friends ? or other hobbys ?


u can be happy with the current standart what lfs acctualy have

and yes its a bit bad if someone anounces some updates and there dont coming BUT thats real life guys...
the devs maybe wont bring a patch ect out with bugs or some other shit on it to there Coumunity.
they want to improf the game as good as they can ... and dont just put out one patch after the next one .. they want to bring us a good and nice game with less bugs and better gameplay ...


i think i have said enought maybe if the mods want they can close this useless thread...

Greez Heiko

You are missing the point completely. This ain't a whining thread about development time or something like that. I am just showing how communication is done in another forum. Nothing more, nothing less. Please read before you post your comment. This is why threads gets closed.

Is it so difficult to stay on topic? If this is the course this forum is going we are lost.
I always thought LFS had a great community. And I definately met them on the track. But it seems that only kids visit the forums.
Maybe I should just stay on the track and leave 'this community' to what it is.

Last edited by FaToS, Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:58.

Please keep it on topic.
Thank you.

Quote from matijapkc :

Guys, if you think LFS is developing slow, check the GTA IV... It has so many bugs, that there is more ppl who gave it back to shops, then those who are still playing. And GTA IV was made by hundreds of ppl working probably 6-10 hours a day. And LFS is made by 3 man, who can't work 24/7 just to give you report or patch. Think about that a bit. Other game have more testers, then LFS programers, so I don't wonder why is it taking so long, and I don't think it will be here soon, but I don't even care (maybe only a bit), because I don't have money even to buy S2, and I can't even think about buying S3 when it gets out. If you don't like the slow progress of LFS development, there's many other NEW games that you can buy/download and play.

I am not saying anything about the development speed. I am talking about communications. Like I said in my first post. The dev of the wargame is doing it all by himself.
I thank Scawen for this game/sim because it's one of the best racing sims I have seen so far. That doesn't mean there aren't area's for improvement.
And I think we should be able to discuss that without flaming, cursing and name calling although that can be very difficult for some people.

Quote from Furiously-Fast :

There should be something to write about. There are many more languages out there that need to be supported out there.

On a more serious note, I think they will be pointless if there is nothing of interest, but then again, that is what Scawen has been trying to say; there is nothing to write about.

You are missing the point. Read the other forum please and this thread before we start it over again.
BTW If Scawen says there is nothing to write about that means he hasn't done anything. And I don't believe that.

Last edited by FaToS, Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:27.

Quote from DevilDare :

Yeah and Scawen went one better - "It is still months away".

Yes you should shut up. The devs dont care. They have said it.

But hey, if it keeps you happy, than I guess by all means. Continue whining without any kind of response and change in dev speed. Please do.

I will not shut up. If you don't like this thread don't follow it.
Why am I called a whiner now? I am only showing how certain things are handled in an other forum. I think you need to grow up/cool down.

Quote from DevilDare :

What in ****ing earth is that use to anyone?!

Sorry for swearing but this has gone way too far now.

Whats the point of those progress reports then?! Progress reports mean reporting about the progress being made in the development cycle. For petes sake its in the bloody name! I dont want to see Scawen wasting his time every month writing about nothing of interest...

I am seriously starting to believe now that the idea of making new threads about "Pogress" should give you an infraction...

The dev on the other forum wrote in his last report he did not make any progress on the game because he was changing his hardware and software. So there was no progress on the game but I take it as news.

Why should I get a infraction? This is a forum and I want to make a point here. What would be the place then to discuss this kind of things? Or should I keep my mouth shut because you don't want to hear about it?
It clearly shows this is a hot topic lately. And it keeps you busy too because you are answering in this thread.

Quote from AudiBG :

I'm sickin' tired of watching the words "progress report" making this face - :static: and after I see the same the main topic ... :banghead:

So please leave the Devs to do their work, and when there is something to report, they will report it to you (It is another thing that, there IS something to report, but there are no reports) .... :bartsimps

Have your read the forum of the wargame? That shows that even with in fact no progress he writes a report. I check that site every month for the progress/info even though I know it can still take a year.
I don't say Scawen should write reports to please the whiners.
But with reports there is little whining.

People are in the dark now. Some people don't race because they are waiting for the patch. Because when it arrives it will probably change the game so there is little to gain to train with the current physics.

Quote from webdigga :

Inspire him to do what? Spend another 5 years making a game? Progress reports clearly don't speed anything up and so I don't really see how they are necessary......

If this were a game in which you pay a monthly fee I guess you should feel more entitled to some kind of update / progress report but seeing as everyone paid a one off amount for a game which let's face it, is better than most 'finished' games and which a lot of us (me included) have spent more time on then most other games, I think we should not expect progress reports or anything else and be very happy with what we got/get.

Inspire him to make reports ofcourse. And 5 years aint much if he really wants to finish the sim (although it is fun as it is now and the reasons you tell).
And why should not we expect reports? The wargame I was talking about is not even finished yet. It is smart of that dev because people keep coming back to the forum and show him their support. Most people here only whine. Which isn't very good for the ambiance here and not very contructive for Scawen. I want the patch too but I can wait. Though I would like to know how long I have to wait.

BTW people. Keep it on topic please and no whining. Please behave like adults. Thank you.

I know ... Don't burn me right away.
Because the latest thread was closed and Scawen says he isn't monitoring his own thread anymore I just want to show how another (lonely) developer is doing monthly updates. He has been spending his last 12 years making a wargame.

You got to scroll a bit down.

http://www.matrixgames.com/for ... 0849&mpage=60&key=

I am not saying Scawen should do this or that he is not doing his job right now but just to show what the possibilities are.

I do hope however this will inspire him

it's quite ...

I would join the league if the racing times are in the evening. And I am willing to help where I can.

www.formula-simracing.net

This should be your example but will be out of reach at this time

Third time the race didn't start.
Too bad could have been a fun league.

What is your racepace?
I don't know what time to aim for.
Mine is 1.01.xx.

Number: 11
Real Name: Erwin Caffé
LFS Username: FaToS
Team Name: OTO Racing

How is the league forming?

Quote from Buzzn :

The Survey is now Released:

Please take time to answere the questions:

http://spreadsheets.google.com ... y=tRbEiLf5U02lRqZCSB4YV-A

Regards
The Championship authority

done

I cannot race. I have to work till 18.00 GMT.
Good race.

Quote from Buzzn :

hope you join the schedule isnt quite settled but the qual will be the day before time (dont we know yett.) will be a vote on that and on sunday the race will be held about the not quall if your team is registerd for the leauge then you will be able to race but you will be put at the back of the grid, and if more people aint quall that possision will be fixed after the leauge schedule

The votes will be up tomorrow or the day aftet

Regards
K.Brusveen LFS F1 Championship owner.

Which day after did you mean?

So is it still on tomorrow? I see no confirmation thread.

The Fanatec website says you can download additional plugins for the led display and ffb brake motor in the support section.
I can't find it anywhere. Are there even plugins for LFS?

I can try and mail Fanatec but they haven't answered any mail from me.

I just received my GT3 RS Clubsport wheel and I would like to know if the two additional ffb motors in the wheel and the brake ffb motor are gonna receive support. It would really immerse me more in the game.

Quote from EliteAti :

Hes probably running with qualifying setup, i could do 1.03 times pretty easily with qualifying set..


My qualifying set attached..

Thanks I will try it. I am mainly interested in the clutch pack settings. It is a bit harder without TC.