Anyone managed to use lfsw on the iPhone?

Quote from Scawen :

Hi there.

I'll "break the silence"... though I do think I said something quite recently.

There's really nothing to report, that's why we don't report anything. I've been continuing with the tyre physics. It's a mathematically based model as you know. That involves assumptions and simplifications to make it workable. During testing we found some extreme situations where the assumptions used caused a breakdown of the output forces. It turned out that the extreme situations can actually come up quite often. I don't really want to go into detail, I've been working on the model and studying the situations where things go wrong.

My work rate has not been very high these few months, I admit. For a while I seemed to fix something, it started to look good then on further investigation and analysis, another problem showed up. That kind of stumbling block caused me to take a break while I tried to get my head around it, to try another approach. The new approach might work or might not and I needed to think again. In those thinking times I didn't just sit here pushing myself until i came up with answers, instead I just sorted out other things unrelated to LFS. At this point in life in am not motivated to sort of sit there and pull my hair out and bang my head against a wall until the solution appears, I'd prefer to just do something else, running the problem over in my mind until I know what do do. That way I can make progress gradually without the frustration that can be experienced by someone who is stuck but needs to produce solutions in a given time.

It's not worth releasing a model with fatal flaws that make it worse than the current model in some situations, even though the on-track normal driving feel is better than the old tyre model.

Unfortunately the slow progress with the physics does delay the release of the Scirocco and Rockingham, but it can't really be helped. What I really want to do is get those improvements out there and then work on some more fun things I've been thinking about. You'll understand I can't comment on future things that may or may not happen, but there are things I want to do but can't until this hard stuff is out of the way.

About slow progress... some people comment how progress is so unbelievably and ridiculously slow... well I guess that means there must be a whole lot of sims out there that have overtaken LFS in nearly every way. If so, you can use them for a while, that's why we have an email notification when a patch is released. If people "leave" LFS that is fine. That kind of thing really can't be something I can get worried about. All I can do is work on the things I need to do, to get LFS to a level we are happy with, then release the updates. Sometimes that is delayed by obstacles as I described before, and sometimes by other things that come up in life generally. With two children and a house to look after, things that go wrong, guests that visit occasionally and that kind of thing, it's true that I don't do the same hours that I used to in the early days, when LFS was my hobby, my passion and my work all in one. Now it's more my work, I have other interests as well and there are now other things in life that are more important, but LFS is something I want to be proud of. Something that I want out there and being enjoyed.

Anyway, we have not died and we are not sipping cocktails on a tropical beach. Actually we are working on LFS. I'm developing the physics, Victor is keep things running, Eric is working on things too. We've done a load of work that we want to release, partly for the excitement of it, but we also have mortgages and other bills to pay and the releases will increase sales, so financially it would also be a great idea to get it out there!

Nothing else I can do do really, I'm just trying to get my current LFS projects finished and released. Threats of people "leaving" LFS, predictions of impending doom and so on don't really make any difference. I'm not about to release unfinished stuff and I will still get plently of sleep and relaxation time, and look after the other things I need to look after and develop LFS physics in whatever time it takes. Then we'll get there in the end and we'll send a notification email when the patch is ready, so you can all have a go on an improved LFS with more content.

Thanks for the info. Now I know what is happening .
Take your time and release the patch when it is finished

Oh god. Yes, please close this thread.

Quote from Marco1 :

Hello guys,

sry BUT WTF U WANT ??!!
if you dont like the development speed from Live For Speed SWITCH THE GAME !

no one said that u must play it

and i think Victor,Scawen and Eric dont stand up every morning and Developing the game this guys havent made her hobby to her Job ... maybe this guy have a family ? or some friends ? or other hobbys ?


u can be happy with the current standart what lfs acctualy have

and yes its a bit bad if someone anounces some updates and there dont coming BUT thats real life guys...
the devs maybe wont bring a patch ect out with bugs or some other shit on it to there Coumunity.
they want to improf the game as good as they can ... and dont just put out one patch after the next one .. they want to bring us a good and nice game with less bugs and better gameplay ...


i think i have said enought maybe if the mods want they can close this useless thread...

Greez Heiko

You are missing the point completely. This ain't a whining thread about development time or something like that. I am just showing how communication is done in another forum. Nothing more, nothing less. Please read before you post your comment. This is why threads gets closed.

Is it so difficult to stay on topic? If this is the course this forum is going we are lost.
I always thought LFS had a great community. And I definately met them on the track. But it seems that only kids visit the forums.
Maybe I should just stay on the track and leave 'this community' to what it is.

Last edited by FaToS, Thu 18 Feb 2010, 19:58.

Please keep it on topic.
Thank you.

Quote from matijapkc :

Guys, if you think LFS is developing slow, check the GTA IV... It has so many bugs, that there is more ppl who gave it back to shops, then those who are still playing. And GTA IV was made by hundreds of ppl working probably 6-10 hours a day. And LFS is made by 3 man, who can't work 24/7 just to give you report or patch. Think about that a bit. Other game have more testers, then LFS programers, so I don't wonder why is it taking so long, and I don't think it will be here soon, but I don't even care (maybe only a bit), because I don't have money even to buy S2, and I can't even think about buying S3 when it gets out. If you don't like the slow progress of LFS development, there's many other NEW games that you can buy/download and play.

I am not saying anything about the development speed. I am talking about communications. Like I said in my first post. The dev of the wargame is doing it all by himself.
I thank Scawen for this game/sim because it's one of the best racing sims I have seen so far. That doesn't mean there aren't area's for improvement.
And I think we should be able to discuss that without flaming, cursing and name calling although that can be very difficult for some people.

Quote from Furiously-Fast :

There should be something to write about. There are many more languages out there that need to be supported out there.

On a more serious note, I think they will be pointless if there is nothing of interest, but then again, that is what Scawen has been trying to say; there is nothing to write about.

You are missing the point. Read the other forum please and this thread before we start it over again.
BTW If Scawen says there is nothing to write about that means he hasn't done anything. And I don't believe that.

Last edited by FaToS, Thu 18 Feb 2010, 19:27.

Quote from DevilDare :

Yeah and Scawen went one better - "It is still months away".

Yes you should shut up. The devs dont care. They have said it.

But hey, if it keeps you happy, than I guess by all means. Continue whining without any kind of response and change in dev speed. Please do.

I will not shut up. If you don't like this thread don't follow it.
Why am I called a whiner now? I am only showing how certain things are handled in an other forum. I think you need to grow up/cool down.

Quote from DevilDare :

What in ****ing earth is that use to anyone?!

Sorry for swearing but this has gone way too far now.

Whats the point of those progress reports then?! Progress reports mean reporting about the progress being made in the development cycle. For petes sake its in the bloody name! I dont want to see Scawen wasting his time every month writing about nothing of interest...

I am seriously starting to believe now that the idea of making new threads about "Pogress" should give you an infraction...

The dev on the other forum wrote in his last report he did not make any progress on the game because he was changing his hardware and software. So there was no progress on the game but I take it as news.

Why should I get a infraction? This is a forum and I want to make a point here. What would be the place then to discuss this kind of things? Or should I keep my mouth shut because you don't want to hear about it?
It clearly shows this is a hot topic lately. And it keeps you busy too because you are answering in this thread.

Quote from AudiBG :

I'm sickin' tired of watching the words "progress report" making this face - :static: and after I see the same the main topic ... :banghead:

So please leave the Devs to do their work, and when there is something to report, they will report it to you (It is another thing that, there IS something to report, but there are no reports) .... :bartsimps

Have your read the forum of the wargame? That shows that even with in fact no progress he writes a report. I check that site every month for the progress/info even though I know it can still take a year.
I don't say Scawen should write reports to please the whiners.
But with reports there is little whining.

People are in the dark now. Some people don't race because they are waiting for the patch. Because when it arrives it will probably change the game so there is little to gain to train with the current physics.

Quote from webdigga :

Inspire him to do what? Spend another 5 years making a game? Progress reports clearly don't speed anything up and so I don't really see how they are necessary......

If this were a game in which you pay a monthly fee I guess you should feel more entitled to some kind of update / progress report but seeing as everyone paid a one off amount for a game which let's face it, is better than most 'finished' games and which a lot of us (me included) have spent more time on then most other games, I think we should not expect progress reports or anything else and be very happy with what we got/get.

Inspire him to make reports ofcourse. And 5 years aint much if he really wants to finish the sim (although it is fun as it is now and the reasons you tell).
And why should not we expect reports? The wargame I was talking about is not even finished yet. It is smart of that dev because people keep coming back to the forum and show him their support. Most people here only whine. Which isn't very good for the ambiance here and not very contructive for Scawen. I want the patch too but I can wait. Though I would like to know how long I have to wait.

BTW people. Keep it on topic please and no whining. Please behave like adults. Thank you.

I know ... Don't burn me right away.
Because the latest thread was closed and Scawen says he isn't monitoring his own thread anymore I just want to show how another (lonely) developer is doing monthly updates. He has been spending his last 12 years making a wargame.

You got to scroll a bit down.

http://www.matrixgames.com/for ... 0849&mpage=60&key=

I am not saying Scawen should do this or that he is not doing his job right now but just to show what the possibilities are.

I do hope however this will inspire him

it's quite ...

I would join the league if the racing times are in the evening. And I am willing to help where I can.

www.formula-simracing.net

This should be your example but will be out of reach at this time

How is the league forming?

Quote from Buzzn :

The Survey is now Released:

Please take time to answere the questions:

http://spreadsheets.google.com ... y=tRbEiLf5U02lRqZCSB4YV-A

Regards
The Championship authority

done

Quote from Buzzn :

hope you join the schedule isnt quite settled but the qual will be the day before time (dont we know yett.) will be a vote on that and on sunday the race will be held about the not quall if your team is registerd for the leauge then you will be able to race but you will be put at the back of the grid, and if more people aint quall that possision will be fixed after the leauge schedule

The votes will be up tomorrow or the day aftet

Regards
K.Brusveen LFS F1 Championship owner.

Which day after did you mean?

The Fanatec website says you can download additional plugins for the led display and ffb brake motor in the support section.
I can't find it anywhere. Are there even plugins for LFS?

I can try and mail Fanatec but they haven't answered any mail from me.

I just received my GT3 RS Clubsport wheel and I would like to know if the two additional ffb motors in the wheel and the brake ffb motor are gonna receive support. It would really immerse me more in the game.

Looks very interesting. Since the qualifying is a day before the race is the race on Sundays? And what time?
One weekend in every month I have to work on Saturdays till 19.00 gmt and on Sundays till 18.00 gmt. I hope the race will be later than 18.00 gmt. And if not qualified will I be able to race?
If it fits my schedule I would really want to join.

Good work Strudders. Too bad it is on Saturdays. I won't be able to race.
Good luck with the series.

Quote from lizardfolk :

Alright, many of you know who I am, therefore many of you will also know that I dont usually complain about the game too much (unless it comes to damage models :razz. However, I would like to ask the community it's thoughts on the current LFS pits model and I would like to ask what would be needed to change to make LFS more "realistic" in terms of damage from crashes and how the pits handle them

Basically my problem is this:

During the Dystonia 350 race yesterday, I cut a tire and went straight into the wall. I was driving the FZR (but a engine damaged FZR so I was going 10 mph slower than usual). Now, after that wreck my car was almost undriveable, but still going....ok fine.

I went into the pits and it took about 50 seconds to make my car completely new again (apart from the engine damage as pits doesnt repair that).

Does this seem realistic to you that the pits can literally repair absolutely anything?

I mean my incident almost mirrors this crash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkpxSu5oJeg

The only difference was that my tire blew during the turn instead of at the exit of the turn and I didn't hit the inside wall (although I would have if Kyoto was as tight as Bristol so that's pretty realistic ). That car immediately retired after that crash....however, I was able to get the car repaired in just over 50 seconds and came back out like nothing had ever happened. I was even able to come out of the pits with just one lap down.

I've seen people retire from much lighter wrecks than that and this as got me thinking.

Should the pits just magically repair everything and the car will run like nothing had ever happen to it? I know if the pits had a stricter repair model that it would suck for people to get into wrecks that wasn't their fault and retire due to too much damage....BUT....isn't that a big part of racing as well?

Also, my contact with the wall was pretty severe and yet I was fully able to continue. I went straight into the wall at 162 mph...why was I able to continue? Should the car axis damage be incorporated? Is it engine damage that wouldn't allow the car to continue? What features would have to be introduced in order for me to mimic Jeff Burton's situation in which I just had to retire and couldn't possibly continue?

Good point.
I did some races at FE and the curbs are really heavy on the car.
I try to ease on my suspension but the loss of time is to big. It's more rewarding trashing your suspension and get it repaired (in longer races).

BTW
I did not notice any difference driving with a half damaged suspension.
Should not be the handling of the car much more difficult?

Anyone?
It seems it lags out.
I have tried everything I know.
Switched routers.
Firewall off
Forwarding ports
ping test works
tracetest works

That is very unlikely. Since I have this problem since the beginning.

Hello,

I am new to LFS and just starting to race online. I mean trying to race online.
After 20 seconds I get disconnected with the announcement: Lost connection to host.

It has happened with several servers and I had a ping under 25ms with all of them. Spectating was not a problem though.

Any help?