Happens on all server unfortunatly. And even sometimes in single player mode.
Gonna do a complete reinstall of the game see if that helps.
Sometimes, but more often happens when I try to start driving, normally drops connection after about 30 seconds driving.
I normally use ethernet cable to connect to the router, but it happens if I use wireless as well.
LFS kills my internet connection...
Just lately everytime I try to play LFS my internet connection drops after a few seconds.
It only happens on LFS and no other games or applications.
Any ideas?
Network drivers up to date, router is a Netgear D834G with up to date firmware.
EDIT******
Seems to let me spectate for ages with no problem, its only when I drive.
It only happens on LFS and no other games or applications.
Any ideas?
Network drivers up to date, router is a Netgear D834G with up to date firmware.
EDIT******
Seems to let me spectate for ages with no problem, its only when I drive.
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You can already buy S2 with no experience.
I don't see why it would be any harder to admin a server?
And it seems like you are asking for no new players to ever buy this sim as they would all be to nooby for you? How sad. I guess people were only allowed to be noobs in 2006.
Tell you what, why don't you just put an experiene limit on your server and let other people who arn't arrogant prats provide servers for newer players?
I don't know, how would it be any different if it was? The safety rating system would be the same, the punishment for bad drivers would be the same.
I think people forget, the average gamer is closer to 30 than they are 15. If your think that Steam has no older responsible players, then your an idiot. Yes you have your Call of Duty/Counter Strike games, but then you have games like Red Orchestra and Darkest Hour, which have a very mature community. Your just tarring everyone with the same brush, either because your ignorant or because your an elitist prick.
I have had no trouble playing crasher free on LFS, because I join a server where I know people sort out the wreckers. If half the people in this forum moaning about wreckers, put some effort in to sort it out and admin the servers correctly, this would be a non issue. Fix your own house before you start labeling 3 million people as crasher noobs.
PS, In my opinion you sacrifice all right to make an comment on maturity when you think its amusing to name yourself after someone who is bombing innocent civilians.
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1000times This^^^^.
I am surprised that people arn't complaining that they can't play online without being forced to have an internet service, or that they are forced to install Windows because LFS doesn't run on their Commodore C64's.
And this whole 3rd party software thing is a joke anyway these days. Almost any game you buy, whether off Steam or not, has additional DRM on top anway, like EA games needing an account, GTA4 needing GFWL installed and so on and so on. By comparison, Steam only is a fairly benign DRM system.
Steam is not a monoply by any stretch, other services exist such as Direct to Drive, and if a game is sold only on Steam that is down to the publisher not Steam.
Still waiting for all these downsides???
Shocking support service and questionable price practice(by publishers not Steam) I will agree to, hmm, occasional bugs, and Steam overload at major release dates about all I have trouble with.
How is Steam being DRM a downside?
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Can't you read???
JUST BECAUSE A GAME IS SOLD ON STEAM DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO BUY THE STEAM VERSION TO PLAY!!!
Please guys, it's important you understand this.
I only quoted you because you seemed to suggest people would be forced to use Steam when this is not the case. I am not sure English is your first language so sorry if I misunderstood.
My opinion is very clear. 100 times yes for Steam, the main reason being Steam would be a good bet to attract more users.
(To respond to your edit) benefit to the community of more players is obvious, more races, more competitions, fuller servers and so on, increased longevity of the sim, Also, there are some very technical people in the Steam community who would likely add and build on some of the fantastic work done by the modders for this sim already. Benefit to devs? Increased revenue I guess, satisfaction of having a more popular product? I dont know ask them, being a dev is outside my area of knowledge.
PS, If the game you have a CD key issue with is not a Valve game, then you would be best to contact the game publisher directly, as they are the ones who issue the keys to Steam in the first place. Good luck getting it sorted.
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Have we not already mentioned that selling a game through Steam doesn't mean the game can only be bought through Steam. Your whole argument falls down by you assuming that something sold on Steam can only be on Steam.
This discussion is no different to a poll saying should the devs sell on Amazon or Play.com or some other place.
A retail copy of a game can be played on the same servers a Steam copy if the devs choose to have it that way. Please stop spouting nonsense and mis-information.
It would be perfectly simply for the devs to continue to sell via the LFS site for luddites with c**p laptops, and for others you could buy through Steam or any other digital distribution company for that matter. This is a discussion about would it be a benefit to sell on Steam, not a discussion about whether you like Steam or not. The only counter arguments against are "Wahhhh, I don't like Steam its rubbish", or "Steam users will be crashers", both are solved by 1--don't buy on Steam, and 2--Admin your server properly.
Anyone come up with a single other idea against?? Devs would be "selling out" is maybe the only other one I've heard?
See my edit above, I wouldn't hate you for rubbish on your screen, my desktop is like my physical desktop, overflowing and organised in a way that makes sense only to me.
The serious point being I guess, not everyone dedicates a machine just to this sim, so I can see in your case Steam would be a pointless annoyance. For others in a more conventional setup, another background app is neither here nor there.
Like was said earlier, all this is moot point anyway but for someone who has come to this sim late in its life, its seems a shame such an obvious way to boost numbers is overlooked. Just seems a shame as this seems to be the best sim in my opinion. Tried iRacing, and its feels like an overpriced reskin of Nascar 2003, and seems to lack a lot of features this has. rFactor I couldn't find a game half the time without scrabbling round for 50 mods to just get on server. All this sim lacks is players, shame a lot of people seem upset by the idea of getting some new blood.
The serious point being I guess, not everyone dedicates a machine just to this sim, so I can see in your case Steam would be a pointless annoyance. For others in a more conventional setup, another background app is neither here nor there.
Like was said earlier, all this is moot point anyway but for someone who has come to this sim late in its life, its seems a shame such an obvious way to boost numbers is overlooked. Just seems a shame as this seems to be the best sim in my opinion. Tried iRacing, and its feels like an overpriced reskin of Nascar 2003, and seems to lack a lot of features this has. rFactor I couldn't find a game half the time without scrabbling round for 50 mods to just get on server. All this sim lacks is players, shame a lot of people seem upset by the idea of getting some new blood.
Are you one of those people who refuse to drive a car unless the air vents are all lined up exactly?
Going off topic a bit but:
Here's mine form a couple of years ago, sort of stuff I normally have running in the background.
Messaging stuff, Teamspeak, usually some sort of media be it music, film or TV, Steam obviously, torrents normally downloading with bandwidth limiting so I can game with low ping and some performance monitoring. Oh, and normally steaming to one or more devices over my home network. To be honest, it might cost me some FPS, but probably not enough for me to notice, and this is the sole reason I own a PC, because it can do all this and more(and my PC is far from top of the range anymore). I can see you point about dedicated a machine to a particular task, but, I don't really see the point when my machine is capable of so much more. I can't see how getting 10fps more in LFS would benefit me, unless I was only getting 20-30 to start with. I guess we just see PC usage from other ends of the spectrum.
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I don't think anyone here has suggested making Steam compulsary. You can easily have Steam sold games and LFS website sales kept seperate, without impacting the game or separating the community.
Many games today are purchased on Steam and retail, (Bad Company 2, Call of Duty etc), both versions can be played together with out any issues, and for certain games retail customer could integrate their CD keys to Steam anyway to get the benefits. Selling this game on Steam would be no different to selling it on Amazon or your local Game store, it just so happens that Steam is a popular purchasing platform with huge number of customers.
And to Psysim's point, how would the game change? It would change in no way what so ever, the issue you point out is non existent. No one would force you to use Steam, thats not how Steam works. Also, it wouldn't be a sell out at all, a lot of indie game developers use Steam to distribute as it has a massive audience, and they maintain their indie status.
Many games today are purchased on Steam and retail, (Bad Company 2, Call of Duty etc), both versions can be played together with out any issues, and for certain games retail customer could integrate their CD keys to Steam anyway to get the benefits. Selling this game on Steam would be no different to selling it on Amazon or your local Game store, it just so happens that Steam is a popular purchasing platform with huge number of customers.
And to Psysim's point, how would the game change? It would change in no way what so ever, the issue you point out is non existent. No one would force you to use Steam, thats not how Steam works. Also, it wouldn't be a sell out at all, a lot of indie game developers use Steam to distribute as it has a massive audience, and they maintain their indie status.
I know I am very new to this game(well, only been playing regularly a few months), so perhaps in the eyes of established members my opinion may be worthless, but I would strongly approve of this game being sold on Steam.
I will quickly address a couple of points that seem to stem from ignorance of the Steam client, which I have used from the day Half Life 2 was released.
1: Steam Client. Everyone screaming that Steam will hog your resources is just wrong. Steam uses exactly 50Mb of RAM on my machine, and 0%CPU, unless your using Steam store or built in browser. I already use LFS.exe though Steam anyway so I can use the overlay, and notice no performance difference than using the game stand alone. Stop using your pentium III's guys and get with the times. Lets see, unlimited downloads, instant updates and patches, no keeping track of CD-keys, one log in for all games, friends list that works in game with text and voice chat, net browser available in game. Lots of benefits to having it, and no sensible arguments against it.
2: Community. As a long term user of Steam I find it insulting that you think I must be a crasher just because I use Steam client. I belong to community where the average age is over 30, and we don't grief or cause trouble, and when it happens on one of our servers we deal with it fast. LFS crashing issues is down to the the server providers full stop. If as a community your all to lazy to admin your servers, then thats your fault and Steam or no Steam nothing will change unless you want it to. Take a leaf out of Redlines book, clean racing every night, and would be the same if Steam players were on, just by a couple of guys putting some effort in, it doesn't take much.
3: Visibilty. As I play my game though Steam, its icon come up in my friends list, and I have no end of people asking me what it is, because they have never even heard of it. There is likely a large possible audience for this sim there, if only it was looked for. And if they don't stick around, then there is no loss and you back to where you are now, if they do stay, then more racing for us to get every night.
I will quickly address a couple of points that seem to stem from ignorance of the Steam client, which I have used from the day Half Life 2 was released.
1: Steam Client. Everyone screaming that Steam will hog your resources is just wrong. Steam uses exactly 50Mb of RAM on my machine, and 0%CPU, unless your using Steam store or built in browser. I already use LFS.exe though Steam anyway so I can use the overlay, and notice no performance difference than using the game stand alone. Stop using your pentium III's guys and get with the times. Lets see, unlimited downloads, instant updates and patches, no keeping track of CD-keys, one log in for all games, friends list that works in game with text and voice chat, net browser available in game. Lots of benefits to having it, and no sensible arguments against it.
2: Community. As a long term user of Steam I find it insulting that you think I must be a crasher just because I use Steam client. I belong to community where the average age is over 30, and we don't grief or cause trouble, and when it happens on one of our servers we deal with it fast. LFS crashing issues is down to the the server providers full stop. If as a community your all to lazy to admin your servers, then thats your fault and Steam or no Steam nothing will change unless you want it to. Take a leaf out of Redlines book, clean racing every night, and would be the same if Steam players were on, just by a couple of guys putting some effort in, it doesn't take much.
3: Visibilty. As I play my game though Steam, its icon come up in my friends list, and I have no end of people asking me what it is, because they have never even heard of it. There is likely a large possible audience for this sim there, if only it was looked for. And if they don't stick around, then there is no loss and you back to where you are now, if they do stay, then more racing for us to get every night.
Thanks for the advice guys. I have been spending a lot of time on Redline Racings server, with Quinn giving lots of advice, and I would recommend them to anyone after help.
I am slowly getting there with my consistency of getting low 1:35's, and have broken into the high 1:34's at last, and if I can tie all my best sectors together on one lap I will be sniffing the magic 1:33 barrier.
God knows what will happen when I try an XRG though
I am slowly getting there with my consistency of getting low 1:35's, and have broken into the high 1:34's at last, and if I can tie all my best sectors together on one lap I will be sniffing the magic 1:33 barrier.
God knows what will happen when I try an XRG though
Help bringing my lap times down(replay included)
Similar to the thread a few posts down, I thought I would post up a replay for you guys to take a gander at.
I have started playing a lot of Blackwood GTi on various servers, and am really struggling to get below 1:36's.
In the replay below, you can see on Lap 2 1:35.88, this is about the very best I can do, my PB is about 1:35.5 but as you can see by the last 2 laps I am averaging 1:36, and sometimes I can barely manage a 1:37 while racing. I can just about get a 30.5 first split, about 1/2second off the pace of other average players, but I am losing masses of time in sector 2, I have only ever once got a 1:07, most the time I am very lucky if I get low 1:08's. I am definitely losing over a second in turns 3 and 4, and I can't work out why.
I have used various setups, all found here on other setup sites. Currently using a Fanatec Carrera wheel but in sequential gearbox mode until I can improve my times.
Many many thanks in advance.
I have started playing a lot of Blackwood GTi on various servers, and am really struggling to get below 1:36's.
In the replay below, you can see on Lap 2 1:35.88, this is about the very best I can do, my PB is about 1:35.5 but as you can see by the last 2 laps I am averaging 1:36, and sometimes I can barely manage a 1:37 while racing. I can just about get a 30.5 first split, about 1/2second off the pace of other average players, but I am losing masses of time in sector 2, I have only ever once got a 1:07, most the time I am very lucky if I get low 1:08's. I am definitely losing over a second in turns 3 and 4, and I can't work out why.
I have used various setups, all found here on other setup sites. Currently using a Fanatec Carrera wheel but in sequential gearbox mode until I can improve my times.
Many many thanks in advance.
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