License updated.
Great news.

My daughter had 8, now she is 16 and is going to college.
My newer son was 5 and he is 13 now and he is about 3 times bigger.
My older son was a shy teenager and now is formed 24 years old man.
Now I'm 50... and so many things have happened. Even so, for a 50 old man, this 8 years seemed to pass quickly, but for sure for my kids it was a very long time, a time where they have changed too much, and for sure, it was longer for them than for me.
The time does not stop, and 8 years after start of S2 era some of us are still here waiting for the next promised step.
How your life has changed since then? How are you going, what are you doing, how many new things have you lived in this time?
Maybe some of us have died, maybe some of us have made a new life.
How your life is going during all these years, and what do you expect for the next eight ?

Quote from Takumi_lfs :

Shut up, people nagging about the updates are the reason why lfs is still going on. Stay the **** out a thread if you're one of those fanboys nagging about naggers. Lfs was way more fun back then, news and updates made the game alot more joyful. I actually don't have lfs on my pc anymore, and I believe there are alot more other people with the same story.

like me

Do we need a patch for Klingon translation?

Simple to understand.

Scawen is a hippie, he doesn't need money.

Scawen reached his max level of physics and math knowledge, he can't go ahead.

Scawen doesn't give a shit for what community think about him, he has a life to live.

So, S3 is dead, and S2 is still alive just because he forgot the server turned on in the basement.

Pray he doesn't forget to pay the electric bill...

Quote from Bmxtwins :

Not dead just delayed:..

Like Jesus said:

“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me. 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.

The Holy Bible, John 14:1-3


You just need to have faith.

Amem :bowdown:

Quote from Test Driver :

There are around 1000 players online right now, apparently player activity is yet very high in LFS, and Scavier is probably is still selling many S2 licenses. Of course this is all speculation, but if S2 is still succesful, there may be no need for Scavier to rush the release of S3, which will most likely boost and reanimate interest and media attention for LFS once it's released, like S2 did in 2005

Are you suggesting that, Scawen could be waiting for the sales decreasing to restart something, or maybe to release S3?

He didn't ask if the game is dead your morons, he just asked if the development is dead.

Fan boys...

Will receive an automatic email with Christmas votes

I want LFS in portuguese... oh wait

Ok, but I can't see any point on doing this (mouse + pedals). Worst than that just this:

Quote from ryans187 :

I can drive either mouse or wheel, and I find pedals+mouse causes more fatigue then using the wheel... because when I press down on pedals I have to use my stomach muscles alot more to keep myself from moving(mainly for the brake pedal and maybe my chair just sucks).


I do get better times with mouse+pedals because with the wheel I tend to slide alot more no matter how much I try to avoid it.

Steering wheel and pedals = ok
Mouse and keyboard = ok
Mouse and pedals = wtf???

Quote from Eclipsed :

Yet another moaning topic? Are you really that much bored un depressed?

LFS for me is all about racing fun,I can still get it even without that FWD car for folks,Rockingham and tyre physics,don't you? Even if I wish we had more cars and tracks in LFS,we can't do anything about it (as a lot of people have said that in other threads,similar as this),just wait and see when/if there will be some,until then - relax and enjoy what we have (there are still a lot of leagues to choose from and as far as I know,Cargame server still offers intense pick-up racing in crowded server),if you don't have enough,take a break until you start to miss racing and come back to enjoy what we still have and we will never loose!

Peace and happy christmas (which is written with a single "s" at the end of word).

LFS is like Counter Strike, it never changes, the old comunity either.

Quote from azasmith14 :

Right. Let's look at this from a logical point of view...

Demo - 1 track, many variations. 3 cars.
S1 - 4 tracks, many variations, 6 cars.
S2 - 7 tracks, many variations, 11 cars.
S3 - 8 tracks, many variations, 11 or 12 cars.

You are proposing people pay another £12, to get one track and possibly but unlikely another car?

Maybe if they produced another 2 tracks. Then went from 11 cars, to 15. Then S3 would be about ready for a release. Trouble is, they've got most car classes covered.

Why not. We pay with no worries U$25.00 for one track or car in iRacing.

Ah.. and BTW, I was forgetting to say something necessary: THANK YOU SCAWEn for the lasts reports.

I think many here cant understand my point: I am not saying that they are obligated to give us s3. What Im saying is that anyone here that complain, has the right to complain, because it is a client right. It is business, not joke.

If Scavier will not give S3, so say "we will not give S3". If they "plan" to give S3, and people wait for 3 years, I think this people has the right to come here and protest.

If there was a Duke Nuken Forever forum, people would be there also complaining. And if Scavier keeps this forum alive, they cant complain against complainers that come here.

It is about the right of complain that Im talking, not about obligations of the Scavier team, however I could say a lot about it too.

Revon, Im not asking for nothing for 24 any money. And Im not asking for S3. They promised S3, they sold the dream, they are responsible for this forum, for this community (sic) and for all complains. Don't put words in my post, I didn't say what you affirm.

Jazzon, once they have "tried" to make anything they want, once they sell this, they are responsible for it, not us.

HP999, yes it is a company. The form it is made is not my problem. Or it is a company of just 3 guys, 3000 guys or 1 guy, it is nothing. What defines a company is to make something or some service that is sold to the market. It has clients, it is a company.

Quote from chunkyracer :

The question is that, from what we can gather from Scawen´s posts, the next patch will only include the Scirocco, announced 2 years ago, and the tyre physics update, and not the new track and car announced as S3 content. And there´s also this:

Which means that at least some updates on the current cars and tracks could be part of the next patch. So, I find logical that people, once again, express their opinion about this subject. Like I said before, as long as it´s done in a polite and construtive manner I don´t see any problem with it.

And I dont see the need to be polite once the defensors of scavier temple are never.

I think LFS is a product, and Scavier is a company, and we are the clients, and we have rigths: to complain, to wait for more, to expect.

There is nothing wrong about it.

Wrong is some company that uses excuses about the sad progress of its work, come to public to say that it does what it whant to do when it want, no matter what the clients wait for or say.

Wrong is to complain about the complains.

Everybody here that defend the Scavier way to work, would not accept same treat in an hair saloon or grocery.

If your train is late, you don't say "ok, I'll wait for more 3 hours because the driver knows what he is doing".

If your doctor is late, you don't say "ok, I'll live with this pain for more months because the doctor said he is tired and get some rest".

Scavier team has no obligation to give some reports, I think. But it is a company, not a bunch of kids doing their house on the tree.

There are thousands of users around the world waiting for something, and waiting for a long time. LONG time.

So, if people comes here and complaing, first thing that this "team" must to understand is that this situation was created by them, not us.

That weren't us that come here and ask for someone to create a simulator, we didn't come here and said: Hey, you, please, develop something for us.

Second, they promise, and if you promise something, you must to make it. Pay you debts, stay there on the clock, be honest.

So, people that defends this state of the things here, saying the same old bs of ever and ever (like "if you dont like get out" and other pearls), is wrong. This side of the forum is rarely polite, and is totaly refractary about moaners and complainers.

Last edited by Speed Soro, Sat 17 Jul 2010, 16:18.

Realistic and Real are two different things to compare when comparing racing simulators, and under my understanding, LFS is not realistic, but feels real.
I explain: realistic IMO means that it will simulate real things, like real cars and tracks, and will behave like real cars. LFS does not simulate real things and dont behave like real cars, at least it doesnt feel real.
In the other hand, LFS feels real, within its own world and laws. Once you are there, you are in, and you feel what is happening.
For a long time this real feeling was a privilege of LFS players, there was no other simulator to give the same feeling. After NKP and iRacing this true changed.
Today I can see only some good things that still give some advantages to LFS, and that is just price, easy to install, and user interface, because the physics is not better than NKP or iRacing, and in fact it is not at same level, and fictional cars and tracks cant compete with ultra detailed models from iRacing.
About rFactor, the subject of this thread, I think it advantages is only the great netcode and the price, because it has not a good feeling, the physics are not that good, and the "mods" thing is a mess like no other.
I gave up LFS for a long time, but I still keep some hope and wait for the day we will test Scirocco in Hampshire .

"...sure maybe it is a long wait but you had to wait until you were born..."

We spend 9 months to born, not 30. Maybe they must to use a forceps to take S3 out from the Scavier uterus?

Quote from Ales_M :

I understand you dont like the development speed,i dont like it either, but i try hard to not post nonsense about it, it just dont helps..
And maybe its dead for u, fine but its not dead for ppl who still play everyday.

blablabla... fanboys have no more arguments, in fact they never had, but after almost 3 years of waiting, they should try to invent something new. But I no more worry about LFS for a long time. I just come here to see if people has left or if they are still around the tumb watching the corpse, like ancient watchdogs.

Ok don't worry, I'll leave you in peace, no more joke for some months. But I'll be back when the book cover closes to assure that you won't be burried inside the Scavier's endless story LOL

hahaha people takes things so serious... that means that I've touched some point? just kidding, enjoy your game, take care.

LFS is not dead, the community is alive... here on forum at least! LFS became a thread racing game! Who will post more?

That is the boring side of have no money: you cant afford with iRacing.:monkey: