Quote from uf1 :

It's been almost a year since I opened this topic.

I see you are new, things go in decades around here

Quote from Androphp :

I have no knowledge on the subject and I will only offer a suggestion based on...

Servers are on a controlled location
LFS uses registered usernames for demo and licensed environment
as soon as a client goes online it needs to announce its IP address to this registration system
this should unlock the hardware or software firewall for this specific IP address on the online sim environment(s)
this IP address cannot be refreshed/updated on this registration system within interval X

Quote from CozmicDragon :

But the LFS master server won't last forever, either. And once it's gone, so are all the mods that were uploaded, too, since all of that is dependant on the master server. While you can technically still make offline mods with the editor since the testing function does let you store mods offline, you can't even unlock the game without the master server. What happens then?

I fully agree. Therefore I see more future into initiatives like CARLA. Which has nothing to do with racing at the moment but LFS best days concerning this sport are really long stuck into history so it doesnt really matter.

Sonicrealms racing team leader jasonmatthews vision also coming true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oalMRccCbiY

Rudy van Buren – Official simulator test & development driver (Red Bull F1 / Max Verstappen Dutch news article)

type eventvwr in the Windows run textfield area (Windows menu)

https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/96121-Please-do-report-crashes

Quote from BorislavB :

when nobody will make championship or endurance race with them

chicken and egg situation. You cannot make a competition out of something which is undriveable

people like the progress, there is overall feeling of fun, life is about having fun

probably just a kid, take it easy

Quote from GT4_PL :

NO FEAR! it's worth just 150 pln. YOU COULD WATCH THIS LINK! Will you know.
https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/2059204#post2059204

Just 150 pln S3 license.

holy cow thats just browser rape

loading that many YT players in one page has serious consequences (probably just simply complete crashing on lower end systems).

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Not that I expect that something will be done about it but I like just to report that this is a very big efficiency problem. (Which I solved on a different forum many moons ago by preloading the thumbnails and only initiating a player screen when the actual video is requested to be played).

Not really. In Trackmania all other vehicles are ghosts. In LFS it are all moving obstacles.

Quote from bayanofmansorofisky :

Yep there's issue with japan servers i guess, mods will not download (i always get redirecting to jp).. Now mods downloading after disabling redirect.

This whole redirecting thing should not happen at the client side to begin with. Its old fashioned. The (sub)domain should keep the same format and a geoDNS service should decide which server is the best to serve the request.

Then this whole redirect functionality can be removed, obsolete.

Quote from rane_nbg :

Our Airio can also show you the time for each sector and

Its relying on the same node information which LFS stores in .pth files. EQ Worry combined certain corners for custom layout tracks to complete some missing data. It would be much better to create a whole set of nodes which do not rely on a (modified) .pth file.

Actually this is the missing piece of the puzzle to get racing interesting again. At the time I had the idea to recreate nodes based on some external polygon track overlay being triggered by MCI data but this is a lot of work and I guess it introduces some lag.

twelve year old topic covering the same problem; https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/74329-How-to-create-PTH-files

Last edited by cargame.nl, Fri, 25 Aug 2023 22:14.

Quote from Scawen :

you can switch off "Allow regional downloads" in Misc Options.

ideally this should be done automatically. Upon failure try another (fallback) option.

missed the rimming update? its top priority for the upcoming time

Quote from Ridva22 :

Network debugging shows that it redirects to "JP" servers. [..]
Would be good if someone else from Turkey can verify.

could be because of the use of an outdated GeoIP database. "My" 149.34.244.246 for example also gets redirected to US while its nowadays a NL registered IP. (Its a VPN IP so I have no issues in exposing this).

https://www.geolocation.com/ reports Amsterdam while https://whatismyipaddress.com/ reports New York.

You can have a similar issue with your IP.

To go around this problem for LFS guessing your location is to make some user selectable field where redirect can be manually selected as a sort of overruling userdefined setting.

Quote from Ridva22 :

Tested D25 patch and mod downloads are

I also justed just tested the download. And while im digitally in Australia and getting redirected to jp1.lfs.net (reported on the background by the freeware CurrPorts tool). I still do not get this yellow redirect message, no clue why it does not appear. Normal chat/system messages do appear.

What I also noticed, there is no way to abort the joining/download process. So if you change your mind and want to abort the joining of a server you have to wait quite some time. Isnt hitting the ESC button an idea to abort server joining? Maybe with some dialog.

You seem to be active online, have you tried the newest release candidate already?

The release you can find in the first post, on the first page of this topic. Keyword is "DOWNLOAD".

This section is about giving feedback

What can also help is compression. I noticed that more then 50% of bandwidth can be saved with compression (zip). But, I think this is actually already happening and LFS is unpacking the mods download after download. On older machines this can cause more network delay then desired. Use less compression or start unpacking after all downloads are completed?

Quote from Scawen :

Thanks. One question: If you use D20 and click to download a mod, do you get the yellow chat message "Redirect : JP" in LFS?

No! I am using D21 but I do not see any yellow message although it clearly redirects to JP if I watch the freeware CurrPorts tool (run as admin to see packet and size data)

Because the feedback is too slow to my liking I started myself with experiments;

https://streamable.com/hb2y8f (this video gets removed over time.. 90 days I believe, free account)

The problem is I do not get across 1.5 Mbit/sec unless I start multiple testbin downloads out of Australia in different browsers and dif[..]

update: Hmm interesting "cmd" netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=normal seems to fix this 1.5 Mbit limitation problem. I disabled this autotuninglevel during earlier testing (I think).

https://streamable.com/evmp70 => a lot faster, although notice it needs to setup a new connection for every mod and this costs the most time and is inefficient. Try https://curl.se/libcurl/c/10-at-a-time.html or https://curl.se/libcurl in general if you like to improve this bit.

Last edited by cargame.nl, Sat, 29 Apr 2023 01:05.

Quote from detail :

Give me please European server IP, to test it too. (And Turkish, if possible.)

LeaseWeb is not i3D.net but download speeds should be tested like this;

https://kb.leaseweb.com/network/link-speeds

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Hmm funny i3D has it too;

Hong Kong: http://hkhkg1-cache1.sys.i3d.network/
Poland Warsaw: http://188.122.80.54/
Russia Moscow: http://188.122.82.54/
Netherlands Hengelo: http://5.200.31.254/
Netherlands Rotterdam: http://mirror.i3d.net/1000mb.bin (for some reason cannot find webpage)
US Chicago: http://138.128.140.54/
Australia Sydney: http://109.200.215.214/

This is what I quickly could find with Google, I am sure there is more but for now it should be OK I think to test?

If you can outperform LFS with a browser download then most probably the problem is LFS itself but first there needs to be proof for that.

I spend serious time today fiddling around with TcpAckFrequency and other TCP parameters in W10 but it seems to be stuck .. Which annoys me, primarily because every change needs a complete system restart (ppff).

Couldn't improve in-game patch 6R to 7D (35 Mb) download speed from Perth, Australia by using my paid VPN provider. It stayed around 1-2 Mbit download speed, noticeable far slower compared to a more "local" connection.

Going to try it with a Linux client although I am not sure if Wine actually uses the Linux kernel/TCP settings or does some Winsock emulation on top of it.

Otherwise need to fall back to some Win7 install or something, sigh. With this kind of operating system bugs I wonder how much influence third party programs can have on the whole situation.

Quote from Scawen :

In case any TCP gurus are reading, I have only set one socket option on the HTTP receive socket. The rest I have left at default

I am no guru but is TCP_NODELAY on?

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/31997648/where-do-i-set-tcp-nodelay-in-this-c-tcp-client

Its to switch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagle%27s_algorithm off

Quote from Aleksandr_124rus :

As I said earlier, both in Ukraine and in Russia there are some Nazis, (And in almost all countries) they are also in the military structures of Ukraine and Russia. But for some reason you are focusing only on Ukrainian... I find this very strange.

You find this very strange, well, my money goes to funding this total scum while I don't want to. The prime minister of my country said its even FAMILY. Wtactualf. How strange is that sounding to you?

If you would keep very close attention on what my focus is, then I am not focusing on this at all. Some other person here brought a symbol ... Well its not even a symbol but anyway.. Someone elses attention is on it which is actually the extreme narrow view what a lot of people have. This narrow point of view is being narrowed by mass media and the UA propaganda machine.

Back to the main question you have, should people be hated, excluded from sports, tourism, be on this planet, bullied, dehumanized just because of their nationality or race? No! Ofcourse not, where in history this ever leaded to good results?

Quote from ACCAkut :

It's you, the Russian population

this is disgusting

I stick with that, nothing to say anymore in this topic.

Last edited by cargame.nl, Tue, 20 Sep 2022 10:14.

Quote from Aleksandr_124rus :

I looked, there are only pro-Russian posts: scary Azov, Ukraine bobming Donetsk, classic kiselev's "8 years" takes... this exactly is what I called propaganda. It does not even smell like journalism. There is enough of this in the Russian media.

It's a UK war (photo)journalist which was actually there (he is now back in London for the moment).

So you call this propaganda, right, well... Thats your opinion then.

Quote from Aleksandr_124rus :

This symbol

Ye, whatever.. Hyped by Germans mostly. There is a different symbol today appearing for the fifth million time or something. Any idea what it is, or maybe this knowledgeable ACC..

Never mind, its the Totenkopf SS nazi symbol. => https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62899474 (video)

Good luck with focusing on some silly Z's.

Quote from Aleksandr_124rus :

Yes, it was just like you said. But what is "propaganda"? I understand propaganda as a intentionally biased presentation of information from the media. (Lie, half-truths, showing only one side of the truth when in fact there is another)

But you also show only one side of the truth here.

Maybe it's okay to tell only one side of a person who knows nothing about it. But in this message, I just don’t understand then how to separate you from someone who has heard enough of propaganda.

I do not want to write book essays about it because its a waste of time and it gives the dictatorial powers here tools to go the Putin way (again). It only shows that LFS 0.7 goes down the drain (who wants to host their server by a ruling Putin-style power :s , if anything being said or done what you do not like you start to lock up people for months. Nuts.)

But anyway... Propaganda.. Propaganda is writing whole 'news' stories from UA sources and then ending it in the last paragraph with an almost hidden line of text: "this information could not be verified". Most people do not read that far into an article or do not even know what it implies. This is the daily receipt for months already and this UA-clown even started to give medals to foreign "journalists" for their "work". Journalists are also not journalists anymore in the west. Just hardly grown up kids with a laptop and extensive ctrl-C/ctrl-V training. For a journalist, look at my current avatar.