Hi Ant,
Nope, 2005 Prius was never recalled.
The only issue I had with it was that the standard battery (not the one powering the electric motor) died (slowly) a few months ago.
I was told that this is a regular occurrence on any car anywhere between 2 and 7 years. On the Prius it's crippling because the computer needs to work to be able to start the Prius (presumably a computer is increasingly required in other cars too). Toyota replaced the battery free of charge as part of 'all maintenance for free for 5 years' that came with the Prius when I got it.
Current belgian gas price: Eurosuper 95 - €1,4320/l.
Coldest temp must have been be around -15° Celcius.
Solar Hydro
Nope, 2005 Prius was never recalled.
The only issue I had with it was that the standard battery (not the one powering the electric motor) died (slowly) a few months ago.
I was told that this is a regular occurrence on any car anywhere between 2 and 7 years. On the Prius it's crippling because the computer needs to work to be able to start the Prius (presumably a computer is increasingly required in other cars too). Toyota replaced the battery free of charge as part of 'all maintenance for free for 5 years' that came with the Prius when I got it.
Current belgian gas price: Eurosuper 95 - €1,4320/l.
Coldest temp must have been be around -15° Celcius.
Solar Hydro
It's been a long time, but here is a new Prius update 
Today, I went for the first time to the mandatory 'technical control' with my Prius (it will be 5 years old next week).
I had my camera ready to photograph the CO2 and NOX emissions readout, and I was genuinely curious to see the measured emissions compared to the advertised values.
I pulled up to the measurement station, in EV mode. I used the STOP button (which locks the transmission but the engine(s) stay(s) on). The guy told me: "rev the engine". I hit the gas hard, car stayed in EV mode (logical). I took EV mode off, put it in NEUTRAL as opposed to stop, hit the gas hard, petrol engine still didn't start. I put it in DRIVE, as opposed to neutral, pushed gas a bit, hitting the brakes at the same time, petrol engine still didn't start (I didn't push gas much because I really didn't want to rear-end an old dirty diesel Jetta 10 metres ahead of me - especially after an old dirty diesel Polo had already rear-ended me 3 minutes earlier in the queue). I put my hands up and offered the guy to try; he did, but he just pushed gas with car in STOP mode which was never gonna work, and gave up. He went to ask a more senior guy, who shrugged, and said 'let it pass'.
Then I completed the rest of the test - the whole of the test in EV mode too, I loved that. Tests included brakes on front and rear, suspension on all wheels, lights, some inspection from below by a human (not sure what they check there) and I was told: "perfect".
Then I paid €59 (more than the standard €31), because I learned that I was supposed to go a year ago and somehow the 'invitation' was lost (probably own fault rather than theirs).
Solar Hydro
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Today, I went for the first time to the mandatory 'technical control' with my Prius (it will be 5 years old next week).
I had my camera ready to photograph the CO2 and NOX emissions readout, and I was genuinely curious to see the measured emissions compared to the advertised values.
I pulled up to the measurement station, in EV mode. I used the STOP button (which locks the transmission but the engine(s) stay(s) on). The guy told me: "rev the engine". I hit the gas hard, car stayed in EV mode (logical). I took EV mode off, put it in NEUTRAL as opposed to stop, hit the gas hard, petrol engine still didn't start. I put it in DRIVE, as opposed to neutral, pushed gas a bit, hitting the brakes at the same time, petrol engine still didn't start (I didn't push gas much because I really didn't want to rear-end an old dirty diesel Jetta 10 metres ahead of me - especially after an old dirty diesel Polo had already rear-ended me 3 minutes earlier in the queue). I put my hands up and offered the guy to try; he did, but he just pushed gas with car in STOP mode which was never gonna work, and gave up. He went to ask a more senior guy, who shrugged, and said 'let it pass'.
Then I completed the rest of the test - the whole of the test in EV mode too, I loved that. Tests included brakes on front and rear, suspension on all wheels, lights, some inspection from below by a human (not sure what they check there) and I was told: "perfect".
Then I paid €59 (more than the standard €31), because I learned that I was supposed to go a year ago and somehow the 'invitation' was lost (probably own fault rather than theirs).
Solar Hydro
www.flickr.com/photos/solar_hydro
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Tesla Roadster hands-on review
One more link to put the Prius vs Hummer story to bed...
http://www.pacinst.org/topics/ ... udies/hummer_vs_prius.pdf
Solar Hydro
http://www.pacinst.org/topics/ ... udies/hummer_vs_prius.pdf
Solar Hydro
Hello all,
A few points relating to the previous posts:
Emissions: Prius vs other car
(I have put specific comparisons with other cars that people mentioned in this thread before)
Peugeot 106 1.4 HDi (you don't seem to mention your current car):
CO2: 116g/km (pretty damn good)
Nox: 0.198g/km (there is also a 0.210g/km column below for diesel)
Particles (diesel): 0.020g/km
Toyota Prius 1.5:
CO2: 104g/km
Nox: 0.10g/km
Particles (diesel): 0
Hummer (and Jeep) vs Prius production process, battery, lifetime incl. recycling
Toyota response
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ ... /25/AR2007042502561.html
Priuschat discussion
http://priuschat.com/index.php?showtopic=31938
Solar Hydro
A few points relating to the previous posts:
Emissions: Prius vs other car
(I have put specific comparisons with other cars that people mentioned in this thread before)
Peugeot 106 1.4 HDi (you don't seem to mention your current car):
CO2: 116g/km (pretty damn good)
Nox: 0.198g/km (there is also a 0.210g/km column below for diesel)
Particles (diesel): 0.020g/km
Toyota Prius 1.5:
CO2: 104g/km
Nox: 0.10g/km
Particles (diesel): 0
Hummer (and Jeep) vs Prius production process, battery, lifetime incl. recycling
Toyota response
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ ... /25/AR2007042502561.html
Priuschat discussion
http://priuschat.com/index.php?showtopic=31938
Solar Hydro
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Reason : Inserted Prius data
37th refuel on the Prius
902km driven, added 44,0 liters
Own calculation: 4.878 l/100km (Prius meter showed 4.6 l/100km, was on 4.5 earlier in the day)
On Tuesday, I drove 450km, fuel consumption was strangely contrasted. 4.4/4.5l/100km on the way out in the afternoon going to Amsterdam via Rotterdam. 5.7l/100km on the way back from Amsterdam via Utrecht. TomTom6 on my new phone told me to drive via Rotterdam on the way out and via Utrecht on the way back. I complied; maybe I won't in the future...
Screenshot (taken with phone) upon arrival in Amsterdam, note the number of km traveled on the fuel tank; this is to emphasize that it's over much of a tank, not a tricked snapshot.
http://flickr.com/photos/solar_hydro/1455031198/
Solar Hydro
902km driven, added 44,0 liters
Own calculation: 4.878 l/100km (Prius meter showed 4.6 l/100km, was on 4.5 earlier in the day)
On Tuesday, I drove 450km, fuel consumption was strangely contrasted. 4.4/4.5l/100km on the way out in the afternoon going to Amsterdam via Rotterdam. 5.7l/100km on the way back from Amsterdam via Utrecht. TomTom6 on my new phone told me to drive via Rotterdam on the way out and via Utrecht on the way back. I complied; maybe I won't in the future...
Screenshot (taken with phone) upon arrival in Amsterdam, note the number of km traveled on the fuel tank; this is to emphasize that it's over much of a tank, not a tricked snapshot.
http://flickr.com/photos/solar_hydro/1455031198/
Solar Hydro
Thanks kx_mole,
I confirm that it's a Prius, but the game is fatally flawed, because it makes an engine noise and shows exhaust fumes while the car is in reverse.
The Prius is (in my experience always) in all-electric mode when reversing. Anyway, I tend to manually force EV-mode (electric vehicle) when parking.
Solar Hydro
I confirm that it's a Prius, but the game is fatally flawed, because it makes an engine noise and shows exhaust fumes while the car is in reverse.
The Prius is (in my experience always) in all-electric mode when reversing. Anyway, I tend to manually force EV-mode (electric vehicle) when parking.
Solar Hydro
35th refuel on the Prius
876km driven, added 42,9 liters
Own calculation: 4.897 l/100km (Prius meter showed 4.8 l/100km).
36th refuel on the Prius
888km driven, added 42,0 liters
Own calculation: 4.729 l/100km (Prius meter showed 4.6 l/100km).
***
I also went for my second liftetime maintenance (the rule is once a year or every 15000km, which in my case yields nearly the same date, although I'm considering taking measures that would cause me to drive far less).
Again, I paid NOTHING for maintenance, whilst it's clear that they did the oil/filter work, rotated the tyres, put in windshield wiper fluid, painted over some scratches on the side that my dad had made, and whatever else they do at an annual maintenance.
I also asked the garage to fix the small star/crack in my windshield from the day a rock hit it; it's improved, but not a full repair. I'll have a look at my insurance policy to see if I can get a new windshield.
Solar Hydro
876km driven, added 42,9 liters
Own calculation: 4.897 l/100km (Prius meter showed 4.8 l/100km).
36th refuel on the Prius
888km driven, added 42,0 liters
Own calculation: 4.729 l/100km (Prius meter showed 4.6 l/100km).
***
I also went for my second liftetime maintenance (the rule is once a year or every 15000km, which in my case yields nearly the same date, although I'm considering taking measures that would cause me to drive far less).
Again, I paid NOTHING for maintenance, whilst it's clear that they did the oil/filter work, rotated the tyres, put in windshield wiper fluid, painted over some scratches on the side that my dad had made, and whatever else they do at an annual maintenance.
I also asked the garage to fix the small star/crack in my windshield from the day a rock hit it; it's improved, but not a full repair. I'll have a look at my insurance policy to see if I can get a new windshield.
Solar Hydro
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34th refuel on the Prius
886km driven, added 41,8 liters (which is low and I even overpumped)
Own calculation: 4.717 l/100km (Prius meter showed 4.6 l/100km but had been on 4.7 for a while because... well see below...).
I got a rear tyre puncture (air pressure falling below 1 bar). I went to the garage, they took the wheel off, found a nail, pulled the nail out, and injected some 'vulcanizing' liquid in the hole made by the nail, and put the wheel back on. 10 minutes; 10 euros; I was impressed.
Solar Hydro
P.S. I passed 30.000km on the Prius counter this evening.
886km driven, added 41,8 liters (which is low and I even overpumped)
Own calculation: 4.717 l/100km (Prius meter showed 4.6 l/100km but had been on 4.7 for a while because... well see below...).
I got a rear tyre puncture (air pressure falling below 1 bar). I went to the garage, they took the wheel off, found a nail, pulled the nail out, and injected some 'vulcanizing' liquid in the hole made by the nail, and put the wheel back on. 10 minutes; 10 euros; I was impressed.
Solar Hydro
P.S. I passed 30.000km on the Prius counter this evening.
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I have not washed any car I ever had, and I have no intention of ever doing so. Went to car wash 4x since I have the Prius.
Solar Hydro
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33rd refuel on the Prius
929km driven, added 43,5 liters
Own calculation: 4.682 l/100km (Prius meter showed 4.5 l/100km).
Own measurement converted to USA Galllon (MPG) = 50.24
Own measurement converted to Imperial Gallon = 60.33
Solar Hydro
929km driven, added 43,5 liters
Own calculation: 4.682 l/100km (Prius meter showed 4.5 l/100km).
Own measurement converted to USA Galllon (MPG) = 50.24
Own measurement converted to Imperial Gallon = 60.33
Solar Hydro
http://priuschat.com/index.php ... iew=findpost&p=452401
Higher up in the thread there are pictures of the plug-in installation, the next page goes on to detail problems they experienced.
Solar Hydro
Skoda Octavia 1.9 TDi:
0-100km in 11.8 sec
CO2: 138g/km
Advertised fuel consumption mixed use: 6.5 l/100km
Toyota Prius hybrid 1.5 petrol 16-valve VVT-i + electric:
0-100km in 10.9 sec
CO2: 104g/km
My own measured fuel consumption mixed use: 4.8 l/100km (advertised 4.3)
0-100km in 11.8 sec
CO2: 138g/km
Advertised fuel consumption mixed use: 6.5 l/100km
Toyota Prius hybrid 1.5 petrol 16-valve VVT-i + electric:
0-100km in 10.9 sec
CO2: 104g/km
My own measured fuel consumption mixed use: 4.8 l/100km (advertised 4.3)
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Reason : Corrected engine to VVT-i; Note that 138g/km for the Skoda is pretty good
Definitely.
Note that fuel expense was not my primary motivation; progress towards respect for the environment and 'cool toys' was.
Solar Hydro
Note that fuel expense was not my primary motivation; progress towards respect for the environment and 'cool toys' was.
Solar Hydro
32nd refuel on the Prius
4.6l/100km on the Prius meter, felt like one of my better tanks all along.
My own measurement is as follows:
923km driven (maybe my record distance), added 42.8 liters = 4.637l/100km.
Own measurement converted to USA Galllon (MPG) = 50.37
Own measurement converted to Imperial Gallon = 60.92
Solar Hydro
P.S. Note the difference between Prius meter and my own measurement on this tank vs previous tank.
4.6l/100km on the Prius meter, felt like one of my better tanks all along.
My own measurement is as follows:
923km driven (maybe my record distance), added 42.8 liters = 4.637l/100km.
Own measurement converted to USA Galllon (MPG) = 50.37
Own measurement converted to Imperial Gallon = 60.92
Solar Hydro
P.S. Note the difference between Prius meter and my own measurement on this tank vs previous tank.
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Very impressive movie Kaynd! (I watched only the YouTube version).
I like how you directed accelerating scene cuts throughout the movie as the lap progresses (maybe a bit too much right near the end).
Congrats!
Solar Hydro
I like how you directed accelerating scene cuts throughout the movie as the lap progresses (maybe a bit too much right near the end).
Congrats!
Solar Hydro
31st refuel on the Prius
4.5l/100km on the Prius meter (it came down to 4.5 on the last trip of the tank, so I knew it was going to be high 4.5s at best).
My own measurement is as follows:
892km driven, added 42.01 liters (priced at €1.397/l) = 4.71l/100km.
Own measurement converted to USA Galllon (MPG) = 49.94
Own measurement converted to Imperial gallon = 59.97
Solar Hydro
4.5l/100km on the Prius meter (it came down to 4.5 on the last trip of the tank, so I knew it was going to be high 4.5s at best).
My own measurement is as follows:
892km driven, added 42.01 liters (priced at €1.397/l) = 4.71l/100km.
Own measurement converted to USA Galllon (MPG) = 49.94
Own measurement converted to Imperial gallon = 59.97
Solar Hydro
29th refuel on the Prius:
766km, added 41 liters (5.35 l/100 km measured; 5.0 on Prius meter)
30th refuel on the Prius:
862km, added 42.1 liters (4.88 l/100 km measured; 4.6 on Prius meter)
(I drove to Amsterdam and back on Friday, quite a few stretches speed limited to 100 km/h in The Netherlands where I could see I was on 4.2/4.4 consistently on the Prius meter using cruise control, and picked up % some back in Belgium at 120 km/h).
Solar Hydro
766km, added 41 liters (5.35 l/100 km measured; 5.0 on Prius meter)
30th refuel on the Prius:
862km, added 42.1 liters (4.88 l/100 km measured; 4.6 on Prius meter)
(I drove to Amsterdam and back on Friday, quite a few stretches speed limited to 100 km/h in The Netherlands where I could see I was on 4.2/4.4 consistently on the Prius meter using cruise control, and picked up % some back in Belgium at 120 km/h).
Solar Hydro
I have now seen the South Park episode (thanks to an OLFSL member).
21 min to make 1 point. Substantially un-funny IMHO. (doesn't Kenny die anymore in South Park?)
Solar Hydro
Airco apparently induces a 3% penalty, and I usually run it (actually I admit that I only found how to really turn it off in 2007! and then the windshield fogs up instantly; maybe better in the upcoming summer).
Tyre pressure has a manifest effect; it is listed in my previous posts.
I almost never drive with open windows, so I have no idea; the window drag effect was debunked by mythbusters tv show I believe.
Solar Hydro (still at 4.6 after the smog restrictions day, but driving 300+ km to Germany tomorrow)
Tyre pressure has a manifest effect; it is listed in my previous posts.
I almost never drive with open windows, so I have no idea; the window drag effect was debunked by mythbusters tv show I believe.
Solar Hydro (still at 4.6 after the smog restrictions day, but driving 300+ km to Germany tomorrow)
I believe that the 2006 Prius (I have the 2005) was one of the first commercial cars with an automated parallel parking system, but I doubt that it'd be able to do that. Somehow I think this movie is rather a complaint about being stuck, than parking heroics.
Solar Hydro
This Prius vs Hummer article has been substantially debunked; check priuschat.com if you care.
Solar Hydro
I have not. Title, download location plz!
Solar Hydro
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27th refuel on the Prius:
783km, added 41.5 liters.
5.30l l/100km calculated (rather cold weather, refueled early on motorway (I saw biodiesel advertised for the first time there) to ensure that my passengers to the airport wouldn't miss their plane)
5.1 l/100km on Prius meter
28th refuel on the Prius:
845km, added 41.5 liters
4.91l/100 km calculated (unusually warm winter weather, a few unusual destinations, and special smog conditions restricting motorway speed to 90km/h (which I didn't realise and didn't respect on the way out, but did on the way back) on the last day may have helped towards the end).
4.8l/100 km on the Prius meter (dropped from 4.9 at the end, so pretty accurate this time).
Note: I started the next tank yesterday about 6km from home, then today I drove to my office, and after a while on motorway at 120km/h I realised that (contrary to media reports) the temporary 90km/h motorway speed limit for smog was still in effect. I (vaguely) respected it 10km into the trip to my office, went to get a sandwich where I usually get one, and then to my office, and I had a nice 3,9 l/100km avg upon arrival at my office. This demonstrates a HUGE difference between driving 120km/h versus 90km/h, and illustrates why the americans with lower speed limits and California weather get better Prius results. Tonight, I left the office (nasty uphill acceleration on motorway ramp made me lose several points immediately), and drove the normal 120 km/h, and I even had to put on the heat as it was getting cold. By the time I got home I was at 4.3l/100 avg (just on the edge of 4.4). We'll see what it will be at the end of this tank. Snow is forecast for this weekend, and next week I'll be driving far to Germany, same trip as I did last year at the same time.
Solar Hydro
783km, added 41.5 liters.
5.30l l/100km calculated (rather cold weather, refueled early on motorway (I saw biodiesel advertised for the first time there) to ensure that my passengers to the airport wouldn't miss their plane)
5.1 l/100km on Prius meter
28th refuel on the Prius:
845km, added 41.5 liters
4.91l/100 km calculated (unusually warm winter weather, a few unusual destinations, and special smog conditions restricting motorway speed to 90km/h (which I didn't realise and didn't respect on the way out, but did on the way back) on the last day may have helped towards the end).
4.8l/100 km on the Prius meter (dropped from 4.9 at the end, so pretty accurate this time).
Note: I started the next tank yesterday about 6km from home, then today I drove to my office, and after a while on motorway at 120km/h I realised that (contrary to media reports) the temporary 90km/h motorway speed limit for smog was still in effect. I (vaguely) respected it 10km into the trip to my office, went to get a sandwich where I usually get one, and then to my office, and I had a nice 3,9 l/100km avg upon arrival at my office. This demonstrates a HUGE difference between driving 120km/h versus 90km/h, and illustrates why the americans with lower speed limits and California weather get better Prius results. Tonight, I left the office (nasty uphill acceleration on motorway ramp made me lose several points immediately), and drove the normal 120 km/h, and I even had to put on the heat as it was getting cold. By the time I got home I was at 4.3l/100 avg (just on the edge of 4.4). We'll see what it will be at the end of this tank. Snow is forecast for this weekend, and next week I'll be driving far to Germany, same trip as I did last year at the same time.
Solar Hydro
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Hello Tim,
The Prius is fine to carry 4 people comfortably; I have very occasionally had 3 people in the back, which is a bit tight but feasible. I have driven 300km without stopping; it works.
As regards the boot, whilst I have never 'packed for holiday', see:
http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=98284955&size=l
Solar Hydro
The Prius is fine to carry 4 people comfortably; I have very occasionally had 3 people in the back, which is a bit tight but feasible. I have driven 300km without stopping; it works.
As regards the boot, whilst I have never 'packed for holiday', see:
http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=98284955&size=l
Solar Hydro
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