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This thread is ridiculous 
illepall .
You are the one who is sick Andre for letting peoples obsession's or interest's in the stat's bother you. I mean can't you see that by your own deffinition you are also a prime candidate for OCD ? obsessed with peoples obsession's with stat's. Moaning endlessly about this on the forums is not going to get you the results your after, it just shows us how 'sick' YOU are.
illepall . You are the one who is sick Andre for letting peoples obsession's or interest's in the stat's bother you. I mean can't you see that by your own deffinition you are also a prime candidate for OCD ? obsessed with peoples obsession's with stat's. Moaning endlessly about this on the forums is not going to get you the results your after, it just shows us how 'sick' YOU are.
Hi Axus / All
I shall say this slowly one last time too, maybe you should read other peoples contributions to this thread and now read mine properly.
Try and see it from the point of view of a newbie and imagine what it feels like to read some of the oppinions of the Pro's on newbies in this thread. The fact that we should all pass tests before we can join in is not very welcoming to newbies. Its also hard as a newbie not to feel slightly belittled when you read some of the posts in this thread. I also do not beleive people should have to pass tests to gain the full features of a game they have paid money for. I dont expect to pay £24 for a game that is predominantly played online only to find i have to pass tests to unlock the fast cars for online racing.
So what i have been trying to say all along is instead of making everyone's gaming experience harder with more tests just make the idiots gaming experience harder. Then accept that accidents will happen and people will crash newbies or pro's alike. Because from what it looks like people still think that all newbies are just another form of wrecker.
Kindest Regards Tim
Them V Us ?
Hi All
The thing that people seem to be missing is that most genuine newbies practice offline anyway. There are a lot of us newbies out there capable of taking the faster cars round a track online without crashing into someone and obeying certain racing rules. Why should myself and others be forced into taking lessons when the option is there for us to learn offline and under our own supervision. Lets be blunt here, games where you constantly have to jump through hoops and complete tasks with pin point accuracey before you can play properly are shit.
Another thing is its becoming a little insulting to see we are all being treated as 'noobs and wreckers'. Like i said in my other post its ashame that the more of these posts i read the more i can see there is an element of "them and us" "experienced vs inexperienced". I am beginning to wonder wether i should of taken note of Steve Wand's review afterall. I am sure if he is still reading this and other posts like it he has a smug grin on his face right now.
Another thing is i just cannot beleive that all the pro's out there started playing like Pro's as soon as they plugged the wheel in. Surely you all started off and worked your way up and surely you all crashed a few times by accident. I wish i had £1 for everytime i have seen crashes at turn 1 and elswhere in car racing caused by drivers making mistakes or loosing their heads, or am i watching different races to everyone else ?
On a final note you all harp on about realism in LFS but your not prepared to accept that genuine accidents will happen in races
? we are not all robots and forcing people to take tests to play the game online will not prevent accidents. All it will mean is new people will not be prepared to buy the game and new developments will slow down or stop due to lack of funds.
Just permanently ban the real ars* holes, stop being nice to them and giving them chances because they sware on mommy's life they will change. Then leave the rest of us genuine newbies to get on quietly and learn the game ourselves.
Kindest Regards Tim
The thing that people seem to be missing is that most genuine newbies practice offline anyway. There are a lot of us newbies out there capable of taking the faster cars round a track online without crashing into someone and obeying certain racing rules. Why should myself and others be forced into taking lessons when the option is there for us to learn offline and under our own supervision. Lets be blunt here, games where you constantly have to jump through hoops and complete tasks with pin point accuracey before you can play properly are shit.
Another thing is its becoming a little insulting to see we are all being treated as 'noobs and wreckers'. Like i said in my other post its ashame that the more of these posts i read the more i can see there is an element of "them and us" "experienced vs inexperienced". I am beginning to wonder wether i should of taken note of Steve Wand's review afterall. I am sure if he is still reading this and other posts like it he has a smug grin on his face right now.
Another thing is i just cannot beleive that all the pro's out there started playing like Pro's as soon as they plugged the wheel in. Surely you all started off and worked your way up and surely you all crashed a few times by accident. I wish i had £1 for everytime i have seen crashes at turn 1 and elswhere in car racing caused by drivers making mistakes or loosing their heads, or am i watching different races to everyone else ?
On a final note you all harp on about realism in LFS but your not prepared to accept that genuine accidents will happen in races
? we are not all robots and forcing people to take tests to play the game online will not prevent accidents. All it will mean is new people will not be prepared to buy the game and new developments will slow down or stop due to lack of funds. Just permanently ban the real ars* holes, stop being nice to them and giving them chances because they sware on mommy's life they will change. Then leave the rest of us genuine newbies to get on quietly and learn the game ourselves.
Kindest Regards Tim
Hi All
I dont know if this is such a good idea for those of us who are genuine players. Myself and many other new members dont want to feel punished because of a certain minority. The most important thing to remember is we all paid money to play this game in its complete form. As its multiplayer orientated i also expect to be able to play the complete game online whenever i want to. I dont have enough time to play the game as much as i would like allready, let alone having to spend my time passing driving tests before i can play the complete game online. I am sensible enough to race around the track in a fast car allready without causing any one else problems. So instead of punishing everyone or making things more difficult for the genuine users punish the idiots and wreckers in the first place, make it harder for this minority to come back and cause more trouble by permanently banning them. After all they are in breach of their user agreement in some way or another.
If you start adding features like compulsory driving tests people will simply avoid buying the game and look for a more hassle free alternative. I am starting to regret giving this game and its community a chance allready. Sadly its not the idiots that are putting me off, its people who are still not willing to accept most new members are sensible adults and treating us all like children instead.
Kindest Regards Tim
I dont know if this is such a good idea for those of us who are genuine players. Myself and many other new members dont want to feel punished because of a certain minority. The most important thing to remember is we all paid money to play this game in its complete form. As its multiplayer orientated i also expect to be able to play the complete game online whenever i want to. I dont have enough time to play the game as much as i would like allready, let alone having to spend my time passing driving tests before i can play the complete game online. I am sensible enough to race around the track in a fast car allready without causing any one else problems. So instead of punishing everyone or making things more difficult for the genuine users punish the idiots and wreckers in the first place, make it harder for this minority to come back and cause more trouble by permanently banning them. After all they are in breach of their user agreement in some way or another.
If you start adding features like compulsory driving tests people will simply avoid buying the game and look for a more hassle free alternative. I am starting to regret giving this game and its community a chance allready. Sadly its not the idiots that are putting me off, its people who are still not willing to accept most new members are sensible adults and treating us all like children instead.
Kindest Regards Tim
Here Is The Answer
Hi Mate
I have the same card, you have the right numbers. However the answer is not to put any spaces between the numbers or it will not accept it. Write them like this 1111111111111111 not like this 1111 1111 1111 1111
Hope this helps,
Kindest Regards Tim
I have the same card, you have the right numbers. However the answer is not to put any spaces between the numbers or it will not accept it. Write them like this 1111111111111111 not like this 1111 1111 1111 1111
Hope this helps,
Kindest Regards Tim
You Can All Read This,
Hi Racer Y, All
Thank you for your response Racer Y i can see it was a mis-understanding on my part, i guess this was due to the different sayings our countries have for things.
It suprised me that only one or two people picked up on my post and the fact that i actually went out and brought the game after reading the review. This seemed to get lost in all the negative or bad feelings that most members are experiencing.
Obviously i can understand why people are angry at being called Ar** Holes, i would be myself. However the way i see it is that the game did get 90%, as for the other childish comments i am adult enough to realise every online game has a small proportion of Ar** Holes spoiling things. I am sure there are a lot of other people like me that read the review and have gone out and brought not only the game but a wheel too because they can see its awsome potential.
If anything is going to put new members off joining its going to be the fact that this matter will not be allowed to die. The fact that people keep dredging up this one bit of negative press and refusing to accept it and move on. The fact that people still find it hard to accept any one who makes mistakes without fear of them being a wrecker. In the end the only winners will be the wreckers who like parrasites will move on to the next first person shooter leaving the shattered corpse of LFS behind before its fully got off the ground.
Kindest Regards Tim
Thank you for your response Racer Y i can see it was a mis-understanding on my part, i guess this was due to the different sayings our countries have for things.
It suprised me that only one or two people picked up on my post and the fact that i actually went out and brought the game after reading the review. This seemed to get lost in all the negative or bad feelings that most members are experiencing.
Obviously i can understand why people are angry at being called Ar** Holes, i would be myself. However the way i see it is that the game did get 90%, as for the other childish comments i am adult enough to realise every online game has a small proportion of Ar** Holes spoiling things. I am sure there are a lot of other people like me that read the review and have gone out and brought not only the game but a wheel too because they can see its awsome potential.
If anything is going to put new members off joining its going to be the fact that this matter will not be allowed to die. The fact that people keep dredging up this one bit of negative press and refusing to accept it and move on. The fact that people still find it hard to accept any one who makes mistakes without fear of them being a wrecker. In the end the only winners will be the wreckers who like parrasites will move on to the next first person shooter leaving the shattered corpse of LFS behind before its fully got off the ground.
Kindest Regards Tim
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Why Offend Readers Of PC Zone ?
Hi Racer Y
I guess by this remark you mean me ? Well i was one of the guys who read the review and was attracted to LFS by it, infact so much so not only did i buy S2 i brought a wheel to play it with. What reading the magazine and this review has to do with Phil Wand's (the writers) parents i dont know. What could you possibly be implying ? Comments like this just go to proving the writer right in his asumptions. We should be doing more to dismiss the fact that we are all Ar** Holes rather than helping prove it. Just for the record i was not "there by accident" and yes i am interested in racing sims.
Kindest Regards Tim
A Person Who Brought The Game After The Review
Hi All
Well this is my first post but i have been watching from the sidelines for a few weeks now. Just thought i would add my thoughts on the above discussion since i brought LFS after reading the review in PC Zone. Having not long passed my real driving test i started taking an interest in racing games. It just so happens that one of these racing games caught my eye whilst flicking through the pages of this magazine.
I was a little put off by the impression i got of the people who play it but i am wise enough to understand most online games are populated by a small number off Ar** Holes. The main point that i have to make is i still purchased an S2 licence even after reading the reviewers oppinions on the people who play it. I dont know how many people were put off by the review but i had other reasons for buying it. The main reasons where the fact it got 90% which does not happen very often and the fact that the reviewer was impressed with how realistic it was. I was also impressed by the fact that it is an online game at heart, i mean what better way is there than to race against real people ?
This leads me to the closing point which as a community you need to address. Please do not let the Ar** Holes take over and more importantly please do not let these Ar** Holes give the rest of the new members a bad name. The more times a new member is banned or berated for making a mistake for the fear of them being an idiot the more you prove the reviewer right in his comments. There are a lot of genuine newbies that have put their faith and money into this game please dont let us down.
Kindest Regards Tim
Well this is my first post but i have been watching from the sidelines for a few weeks now. Just thought i would add my thoughts on the above discussion since i brought LFS after reading the review in PC Zone. Having not long passed my real driving test i started taking an interest in racing games. It just so happens that one of these racing games caught my eye whilst flicking through the pages of this magazine.
I was a little put off by the impression i got of the people who play it but i am wise enough to understand most online games are populated by a small number off Ar** Holes. The main point that i have to make is i still purchased an S2 licence even after reading the reviewers oppinions on the people who play it. I dont know how many people were put off by the review but i had other reasons for buying it. The main reasons where the fact it got 90% which does not happen very often and the fact that the reviewer was impressed with how realistic it was. I was also impressed by the fact that it is an online game at heart, i mean what better way is there than to race against real people ?
This leads me to the closing point which as a community you need to address. Please do not let the Ar** Holes take over and more importantly please do not let these Ar** Holes give the rest of the new members a bad name. The more times a new member is banned or berated for making a mistake for the fear of them being an idiot the more you prove the reviewer right in his comments. There are a lot of genuine newbies that have put their faith and money into this game please dont let us down.
Kindest Regards Tim
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