I placed ogg files in lfs/data/ogg and got my channel set up will all my songs and they work, but it plays the next song, and then the next, before it finishes playing through each one.

How can I have it play each song completely before skipping to the next?

Thanks!

They show up as colored boxes like this:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...mapImage-1.jpg

It fixed itself once and was fine the whole time but it came back when I re-unlocked the game yesterday.

I'm sorry. I meant for this to be in the Technical Assistance section.

They show up as colored boxes like this:



It fixed itself once and was fine the whole time but it came back when I re-unlocked the game yesterday.

I believe one of the best ways to rate the realism of a racing simulator is to drift in it... and LFS feels the closest to the real thing IMO. That says a lot about the physics and vehicle dynamics.

Thank you thank you thank you thank you!! I can't believe LFS is getting even more realistic as realistic as it is already. I am happy to see this because LFS's realism in vehicle dynamics is second to none and is the reason why I love LFS and even why I trust it to improve my real life driving skills. So far, my track/drifting experience proves to me that LFS is as real as it gets vs all the other "sims" out there.

Quote from dewyl :

Hello! dunno why but it wont work for me, i start lfs V then the tweak it works for 10 secs then it says i have to unlock s2 , but i have already unlocked it... and if i want to restart the tweak a window what says incorrect version of lfs appears twice, but i'm sure i started 0.5V, it is totally messed up dunno why.

I have the same problem and it is driving me crazy! Someone PLEASE help! The tweak works for a while, then decides to say I need to unlock LFS, followed by the error messages that says I have the incorrect version.

I have the correct version, I have LFS set to English, I have LFS unlocked, and it WORKS, but only for a little while. So far there has been NO solution for this posted.

Just wondering... kingcars, have you ever driven an S2000 hard on some twisty roads? Because it doesn't seem like you have If you still choose not to, then you are truly missing out, which is your own loss! You will have a blast. Don't take my word for it. Go find out for yourself

There's a reason why the S2000 hasn't changed much since its introduction... It has always been considered a very great sports car to begin with:

Straight - SIX
"You say you're into sports cars? You say you are truly hardcore? Put your money where your mouth is and step up to S2000 ownership. The rarified 9000 RPM redline of the 2.0 liter naturally aspirated screamer is truly addictive, and the twitchy rear end will test your oversteering reflexes to the max. The finest four-cylinder engine in the world." They rated the car a 6 point on a 6 point scale.

Michael La Fave - automotive-review.com
"The S2000 on the other hand is a car that was created for the single purpose of socially irresponsible driving, a dream car for the true enthusiast. After getting out of the S2000 every other car feels heavy, cumbersome, imprecise, untrustworthy and just plain less fun. It is the one car I desire for myself more than any other."

David Bellm for ModernRacer.com
"Those who seek a sports car that can double as a relaxed long-distance cruiser should look elsewhere first - Nissan 350Z, and Porsche Boxster come to mind. But for those who relish the delight of blazing down public roads in a car that feels so untamed, so race-prepared that it almost seems as though it should be illegal, S2000 is about the only game in town for less-than-Ferrari prices."

Road & Track
"I had honestly forgotten just how good a sports car the S2000 is. The gearbox is quite simply the best in the world, with wonderfully short, extremely positive throws. This current S2000 is less twitchy than the original, and was the easiest with which to execute beautiful 4-wheel drifts through Buttonwillow's faster corners." "Man, is it fun," said Mike Monticello, Associate Editor.

Car and Driver
"Its fabulous engine aside, the element that really puts the S2000 on a higher handling plane is its chassis. The Honda’s structure provides a textbook example of how to achieve exemplary rigidity in a roofless unit body, and it may very well be the stiffest roadster chassis on earth." "A purist's sports car, and an extraordinary performance buy."

European Car
"In the end I can tell how much fun a car is by how it makes me drive. In the S2000, I'm a raging ****. I want to hit 9000 RPM at every shift, every stop sign requires threshold braking and every corner is a power slide. Owning an S2000 would wreak havoc on my driving record, but that extra $20,000 will pay a lot of legal bills - advantage Honda." (Face-to-Face comparison with a Porsche Boxster S)

Hot Compacts & Imports
"Honda’s Little Miracle" "...that's 2 hp per cubic inch, or the same output found in a NHRA Pro Stock car." "...because the S2000 is a Honda, you can expect it to perform with race car intensity every day for years. Heck, with proper maintenance it might live longer than you."

Edmunds - first drive review
"VETC kicks in, activating a different set of camshaft profiles. The S2000 magically transforms from vanilla roadster to kamikaze attack plane. Scenery in the windshield whizzes by like somebody suddenly hit the VCR fast-forward button. By the noise, you swear you're going to blow it up. Time to shift. As the engine continues to warp upwards towards 9000, the snarling and exhaust plumb into your gut and buzz up to your brain. Take the sound of an Integra GS-R engine, add some Honda CBR 900RR motorcycle and a dash of Jordan/Mugen Formula One race car, and you have something close to the sound of the S2000. It's a feeling that you're getting away with something truly special." "As a streetable race car, the Honda S2000 excels."

Los Angeles Times
"Go figure your chances of walking into your nearest dealer and beating the elbow-shoving to get dibs on an S2000, probably the spunkiest, most satisfying mainstream sports car since the 1962 Porsche 356B." "Many manufacturers brag of race-inspired engineering. Most of it is race-inspired hype and hyperbole involving old mechanicals barely brushed by racing. Not Honda. When its engineers, even its advertising department, talk of the race-bred technology of the S2000, the reference is to a direct borrowing from Honda-powered cars and victories..."

Newsday
"In all, the S2000 is exactly what Honda intended it to be: A true sportscar in the traditional vein for a special few drivers..."

Porsche (via R&T)
"I dialed up Porsche for a test Boxster (99 percent of the time a successful shake-down). Only to be told, Sorry, but no. No? I couldn’t believe my ears. Apparently, Porsche was suddenly being hit up by every car magazine in the country asking for Boxsters, which could be due to only one thing: the Honda S2000's becoming available to the press. Porsche decided it was not in its interest to facilitate comparisons..."

Ward’s Auto World
"You're convinced you are a hideously overpaid Formula One pilot/god."

Washington Post
"The S2000 is everything a sports car ought to be - fun, powerful, nimble, and magical in its ability to transport both soul and body to a better place."

Kansas City Star
"...its 240 horsepower screams like a caged cat. This may be a small package but it packs a good-sized punch. If it surprises you to find Honda and sports car in the same sentence, consider this: Honda racing engines have repeatedly been champions..."

Fort Worth Star-Telegram
"The open-top roadster from the '60s is back with a vengeance in the all-new Honda S2000." "...this Honda roadster brings back the best of the open-top sports cars of the '60s but with some '90s comforts that don't spoil the package. Power and road-handling are superb, styling is eye-catching, and driving the S2000 is a dream."

Road & Track
"The S2000's 64.0 mph romp through the slalom is among the best we've ever seen."

Road & Track Road Test Annual 2001
"No question, Honda has bragging rights, having produced the first 2.0-liter production-car capable of 9000 RPM and producing an astonishing 120 bhp/liter in the process, with piston speeds that exceed those in Formula 1 racing." "The S2000 was able to dance through corners the fastest and with the least amount of effort." It beated the lap times of the Boxster S ($54,300), BMW M ($43,700), and Audi TT ($43,000).

Automobile magazine
"...the perfect roadster."

Top Gear
"...if the Boxster wins hearts in the showroom, it's the Honda that will win souls on the road." The English road tester, Vicki Butler Henderson, went on to buy one and I'm told she's now on her second one.

About Cars Test Drive
"Driving the 2001 Honda S2000 is the closest I’ll ever come to being in the pilot's seat of a vintage Formula One car."

Automotive-Review.com, tester - Bettencourt
"...I’m just blown away by the way the thing feels from the driver's office... this is not another half-sporting, half-luxury poseur convertible. This is a serious driving machine."

Automotive-Review.com, tester - LaFave
"This is it! If you've ever dreamed of a race car for the street this is it. Perhaps not in terms of outright acceleration or equipment details but in every other respect it is; brakes, suspension, transmission and 9000 RPM redline." "The brakes and the transmission shifter are unequivocally the best I have ever used." "Did I mention this is the most fun car I've ever driven!"

Road & Track.com
"If early impressions count, the S2000 - priced at around $32,000 may well be the cause of some sleepless nights in Germany."

Edmund’s Review.com
"It's all about the little red button...labeled engine start, the button reflects the racing heritage found in the S2000 roadster." "...an excellent alternative to the BMW Z3, the Mercedes-Benz SLK, and the Porsche Boxster. Out of that group, the S2000 is the most performance-oriented."

Edmund’s 2000 Roadster Comparison Test
"First Place. Who'da thunk a Honda could inspire such passion..." "Well, we did, it does, and this was a test of roadsters with more than 200 horsepower costing less than $50,000..." (Tested against BMW M, Audi TT, MB SLK 320, and Porsche Boxster base model)

Car & Driver Best List
"The S2000 is wasted on summer evening jaunts to the local A&W. The S2000 is a unique and seductive tool for speed." "...to produce tenacious and tolerant handling that makes even ham-handed and footed drivers feel like F1 ace Michael Schumacher."

Cars and Bikes (Tokyo)
"I've tested the Nissan GT-R racing type car and though it's in the same class of performance as the S2000, it lacked the "fits-like-a-glove" interior, open top and just wasn't the fun this Honda was - at two million yen more in price. The only Japanese car that comes close is another Honda, the NSX racing type, but with its price tag of around ten million yen it's out of reach for most of us."

Honda Tuning
"There are some cars that seem perfect straight from the factory. The Porsche 911 Turbo... Ferraris, McLarens, Aston Martins... The Honda S2000 is arguably one of these vehicles."

Forbes
"...and its all-too-willing 240 horsepower engine cranks out more juice per cylinder than a $169,000 Ferrari 360 Modena."

Cars.com
"Once it reaches 5000 RPM or so, the S2000 lunges forward like a virtual rocket, its engine screaming passionately through each step of the close-ratio six-speed gearbox. As if acceleration prowess weren't enough, razor-sharp steering, disciplined handling talents and athletic cornering ability blend with excellent braking capacity to produce a driving experience that approaches racing car level. It's really no surprise since the S2000 looks as if it's ready to whip onto a racetrack somewhere."

New Car Net
"...a two-seater that redefines the essence of sports car motoring."

USA Today
"The highly tuned engine, already yowling like a beast at 7000 RPM, slides into a different dimension as it closes on the 9000 RPM danger point. Deeper than primal, it feels as if the buzz, the excitement, is coming not from the car, but from within your skull, perhaps your soul."

The New York Times
"If roadsters can cure a midlife crises, this may be a good time to have one. Take it out once and you'll drive it in your dreams."

Sport Compact Car
"The S2000 feels like nothing less than a Formula Ford with bodywork." "If you've driven an Elan (Lotus), you've got a good idea what to expect here. Paring knife reflexes, peaky power band, toggle switch shifting. Chapman's dream is all present in the new Honda. The only thing missing are the leaks and the breakage. You’ll have to supply those yourself."

Car (UK) magazine
"This is one of the great engines. Definitely top 10, probably top 3."

Nashville Scene
"I will boldly defy any genuine aficionado – particularly one with road racing experience – not to fall head-over-heels in forbidden, Lolita-lust love with this champing, snorting filly of a classic roadster."

Motorweek
"On its performance merits alone, the Honda S2000 stacks up well against the likes of the Porsche Boxster and BMW Z3. But consider also its $32,415 base price, and the S2000 becomes a screaming performance car bargain."

Auto Week
"Some around here call the S2000 the best Honda ever. Whether you agree or not, most at least believe the little roadster has already carved out a chapter for itself in the annals of future classic car-dom. And it's done that in less than three years on the market." "...the S2000 - because it existed at all is legendary already."

Automobile magazine
"European rivals such as Porsche, BMW, and Audi charge thousands more for this level of performance, although they also provide a far more comprehensive complement of amenities as part of the basic package. You want aesthetics? Buy a TT. Pure performance at a reasonable price? The S2000 tops the charts."

Consumers Reports
"Our top-rated roadster, the Honda S2000, slightly outscored the Corvette and Boxster in our tests and has excellent reliability."

Kansas City Star
"...diehard performance drivers will relish its cat-quick reflexes and giant-killer engine."

Edmunds (road test follow up - 2002)
"And as long as Honda continues to build the S2000, we'll be sure to save a spot for Honda right next to the prancing horse (Ferrari) and checkered flags (Corvette) next time we're out for a midday cruise down PCH (Pacific Coast Highway)."

Drive.com (Aust)
"VERDICT: If the S2000 doesn't win every car award this year, the judges should pack up and go home."

Motor Trend
"Imagine if Formula One engineers built a sports car. Well, they did."

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Quote from masternick :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aD1kLdXMF0 :P

Thank you. All this talk about power is going nowhere because what truly matters is how a car performs on a race track. And also, the driver makes the biggest difference in how fast a car goes around a race track. I thought all of us should know this by now, since we play LFS.

Quote from kingcars :

Well if you were in the right muscle car with the right driver, it'd be sideways while going straight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJl__WfU5rE

Have you ever seen the D1 Mustang driven by Ken Gushi?

Quote from Byku :

You are all not car enthusiast . You should love any kind of engine! V8, I4, it doesn't matter, they both are beautifull. I love small Japanese coupes with high reving engine, and i love those old muscles with huge V8, and suspension characteristic of a boat. They both give different feeling, but they both are beautifull! GUYS! CHILL OUT! Let's make love not war!

We're chill and I don't mind different engines. Don't worry lol

Quote from jibber :

It's no secret that the S2000 has no torque below six thousand rpm. From a realistic point of view, for daily use in traffic, it's terrible. The car is not exactly slow, but not "240hp light roadster fast".

The point is, it has more the characteristics of a racing engine. Trust me, the engine plus the crazy high rpms make it feel like you're sitting in a race car (it's far from a race car and i know that). Either you like it, or you don't, but it is the way how that engine works. And if you like it, it's a pretty fascinating one.

I have nothing against big/heavy engines and low-end torque. They have their own characteristics aswell, which you can love or hate like any other concept.

The point was that you don't need a big engine for a high horsepower output. At least that's what i picked up from reading through the posts... then again, i didn't read all of it in detail.

You are right. As far as sound goes, I can see why lots of people love the deep rumble and growl of V8s, but I'm sure you and I both love hearing our smaller engines screaming at higher RPMs. It's all just personal taste, like you said.

Quote from kingcars :

Hate to break it to you, but it was the small engine guys that started bashing me first...look back through the thread. I have no issue with 4cyl cars...in fact, when it's time to get a daily driver so the Tbird can have a much lighter load, I really want to get something like a Mazdaspeed 3. I'm also a big fan of the WRX STI, among other cars. But what I hate is when import lovers come in here acting like they're "better" than everybody else because they use less cylinders. I'm also not sure where I said, or insinuated, that more hp is always better. You just assumed that because I have a V8 car. And actually, drag racing is every bit as "hard core" as road racing.

I completely agree with you about the road racing stuff...a fully balanced car is key. That's also why I disagree with your argument against the ZR1; it was built/balanced to handle 600-700+hp, not 250. Totally different setups; you can't compare them. But people think that V8 cars can't handle, which is very wrong. The Corvette proves it (and if that isnt enough, check out the ACR Viper @ the Nurb video). There are also many people in the Mustang community that have very well handling road course setups; I hope one day to make my Tbird into a corner-carver. Also take a look at monstermiata.com - the stuff there is something I hope to do one day with my spare engine and a 1st gen Miata. And my whole point with the S2000 is that it makes NO torque. Torque is much more important than horsepower in many cases, and many import lovers like to ignore the torque number. As much as I do like, and respect, modern 4 cylinders, nothing will ever beat the sound of an American V8 at WOT, at least for me. Oh, and just 1 more thing...in 1987 and 1988, you could get a Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe with a 2.3L turbo 4 cylinder with 190hp (you could get them in other years too, but 87 and 88 were the most powerful). So lets not talk about how American cars always need V8s.

Ah ok, that's cool then. I didn't know about the other guys starting this. I feel the same way you do. I also agree V8s can handle and I don't get why people think otherwise. As long as the chassis and suspension is set up right, it doesn't really matter what type of engine you're running. You are cool. It's just that some other V8 guys see other cars as utter crap and don't understand much about anything other than power and straight line performance.

And by the way, you're right about American cars not always being V8. My friends Buick, for example, is one hell of a 6 cylinder turbo!

Or an entire LFS forum meet at the Ring

Quote from kingcars :

Gas guzzling? Guess you missed where I mentioned my gas mileage - 22/24 city, 26/28 hwy (gotten as high as 33mpg on full hwy trip). There are quite a few modern 4cyl cars that dont do that well on gas. Modern cars are ridiculously heavy for their size and kills gas mileage.

Also, what year is that diesel engine made? I bet it's not in the 80s. And yes, diesels do make crazy horsepower...I've raced a couple (stock/lightly modded) in my Tbird (with the old 225hp engine) and they have been very close.

You do seem to be forgetting that I'm referring to REAR WHEEL horsepower; much different from the "bhp" numbers that most people throw around. I have the dyno sheets to prove my numbers, and that was with wiped out main and rod bearings. "bhp" of my car is more around 280-290ish hp, accounting for drivetrain loss.

BTW....hope your little 4cyl cars have fun keeping up with this:

http://smg.photobucket.com/alb ... &current=PICT0001.flv Just a quick, short-shifted run to about ~85mph with the throttle not even opening all the way (new carb installed, havent adjusted the throttle cable yet).

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Mustangs have been running 3 and 4 valve V8s for quite a few years now...i think you're the one that needs to catch up to the times. :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nSenMmqKh4

Hey look, an old fashioned pushrod V8 still gettin the job done for a fraction of the price. Whoda thunk?

And before we get into a "straight line vs road course" discussion...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6mEirkQN8o

Why did the engineers choose a V8? Why did the S2000 engineers, for example, choose a 4 cylinder when they could've gone with a bigger engine? The answer is that they chose the V8 as an easy route for big power and that the other engineers stuck with the lightweight and compact 2.0 liter inline 4, allowing them to not only have the lightest engine possible with minimal inertia, but to mount it entirely behind the front axle, making the car a mid-engine roadster while still squeezing out 250 horsepower.

Ok now, as we are all aware of, road racing is all about the corners. There is a way to truly compare. Detune that ZR1 to 250 hp and let's see if the S2000 (Again just for this example) or the ZR1 will be faster on the Nurburgring. The fact is clear that V8s focus on power. Sure they can be VERY fast on the track, but if you were to engineer a car from scratch, extracting the highest power you can out of the lightest engine possible is the ideal route, instead of thinking "Oh hey let's just simply add more cylinders!" Why not have 24 freakin cylinders then?

These are all track videos from people I know back in LA. They're VERY fast and no slower than professionals, if not faster. This is also proof that it's all about the turns and that horsepower comes second. 4 cylinder cars keep up with and pass V8s like nothing every day.

Emilio breaks 2:00 with his 158 whp Miata on Buttonwillow 13! (1:58 best lap)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_5Xk8xBrqM

Carles Ng driving his Alvaka/949Racing C5 Z06 on Buttonwillow 13 (RWD Modified Class 1st place. 1:56 best lap)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ejcySX0JTc

Manly Kao of trackhq.com driving his Lotus Elise on Buttonwillow 13 (RWD Street Class 1st place. 1:58 best lap)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPQSMRDJ898

Tim Kuo driving the Sport Car Motion Civic on Buttonwillow 13 (FWD Modified Class 1st place. 1:55 best lap)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw84VuetW_0

Here are some videos of my friend Jack. He's the record holder for a bone stock S2000 on SOWS CW at 1:30.33!

Jack driving his AP2 on Button ... d Class. 2:01 best lap)
Jack going downhill on GMR

And it seems like you are another drag racer, so have you ever thought about how much more hardcore road racing (real racing) is? The G forces experienced under braking and cornering far exceeds that of any straight line acceleration. It doesn't matter how fast a car is because even a 1000 hp car would be more exciting and rewarding on a real race track than a drag strip. Straight line performance is just part of road racing. It's like seeing who can jump higher vs basketball.

There I said it. Sorry for being so harsh but I have seen too many people all over the internet bashing on anything that's not a V8 as if they know what they're talking about (I'm kind of letting it all out on them too, so don't take all this too personally). Normally I don't get into this debate over engines and cars, and I believe that any car can be suitable for the track, because I believe racing (on a road course) is all about the driver. Which brings up another point on how lower powered cars (or cars with just the right amount of power) are best suited for training the race driver due to the bigger penalties in mistakes (harder to use power to mask over and catch up your lost speed), and the importance in watching your entry speed and car's momentum. Momentum cars make fast drivers!

Then there are people who think more power is always better. For drag racing yes. But for road racing, it's all about finding the power that best suits the chassis, suspension, weight, and almost every other aspect of the car! Power, as with any other aspect of a car's setup, should be adjusted accordingly. Would you run a car with 90 degrees negative camber (because more negative is better)? Or would you drive a car with a welded differential on the race track because it's always 100% locked up? Or would you drive a car with 10 wheels on the race track because more wheels mean more traction? Or drive a car with solid suspension (as in no travel at all) because stiffer is better? NO!!! It's just plainly dumb! I hope you get my point.

By the way I do respect you and your work and all V8s and all cars. But I just want people to know the science and facts behind what they're talking about. Sure the fact is V8s usually have more power and sound mean, but there's a bigger picture, especially in the racing world. That is all.

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Quote from kingcars :

You're an ignorant idiot. For starters, 250hp < 250rwhp. 250rwhp = ~290hp. Drivetrain loss. Don't forget the 300rwtq...which is about 340tq at the flywheel. Lets see a stock 4cyl that you love so much do that. S2000s are stock with, what, ~160tq (even less at the rear wheels)? And that's after how much technology advancement? Nobody (especially 4cyl nut swingers) ever seems to acknowledge torque numbers.

Second, I put a lot of time, money, and hard work (blood, sweat, tears, etc) into it. So did my father. You can't even respect that; you don't deserve to be in the hobby or consider yourself a car guy as far as I'm concerned.

Third, with that horsepower I can run with 350Zs, EVOs, and STIs for a fraction of the cost. Yeah, the car is set up to run mid 13s in the 1/4 mile...without AWD or loads of electronics. Considering it started out as a mid/high 16 sec car when I got it, I'd say it's doin pretty good.

Ok, it seems we have another person indulging himself in the torque myth and misunderstanding. Torque is just one variable in the equation to produce horsepower and horsepower is what determines how fast a car goes. Formula 1 cars have around 800 hp with just around 200 ft lbs of torque and they focus on extracting every bit of power by improving the rev limit, even at the cost of losing torque. You only need tons of torque if you have a heavy car or if you want to tow stuff. Take a bulldozer or a tank as an example. I don't care if it has 2000 ft lbs of torque!

Another thing is the concept of multiplication of torque through gear ratios. Do I need to tell you that the car in 2st gear will have much more acceleration than the car in 5th gear? Why is that you say? Well gear ratios multiply torque. That's why we have different gears! In other words, a high torque car can be slower than a light car with proper gear ratios and high horsepower. So enough of the torque obsession!

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Quote from S14 DRIFT :

And where does electricity come from?

Besides, we have more fossil fuel reserves than they want us to think. That way they can hoard the prices. I doubt we'll run out in the lifetime of anyone of this forum, at least not till we're far into retirement and too old to go out looking for a twisted ribbon of perfection..

Yea. You've got some good points. But what I think we might see in our lifetime, is the end of manufacturers making gasoline vehicles, not due to the shortage of gasoline, but for emissions purposes. I am hearing more and more about future models using alternative power sources. It's good for the environment, and for the masses, but comes at a loss for those of use who still love gasoline engines.

jibber, I really like your picture! Have fun with her!

Zdenek, thanks!

And congratulations philipac! She looks nice! Yellow is a great color. It looks like a 2009 model, am I right? Is that the 2.0 or 2.2 engine? The 2.2s in the US have gold lettering on the valve cover. Oh, and I've always wondered what the thing in front of the head light is. Do you know what they are for? I am very curious. Thanks!

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I believe internal combustion cars should be reserved for the track only for car nuts like us and that everybody else (all the "normal" people) should drive electric vehicles. Leave the "real" cars for the people who truly love them! This is how it should be.

I think it's a waste for people who don't even enjoy cars as much as we do to drive internal combustion cars and to waste so much of the earth's fuel. Ideally, everybody else should drive electric cars. The average person won't give a hoot about what their car sounds like, for example. They just use the car to get from point A to B.

This way, car manufacturers could focus designing gasoline cars for the track/high performance/sports car industry too. I'm not sure if this idea is the best from a business/financial perspective, but it sure makes sense for the car lovers who don't want to see the end of the internal combustion engine! If gasoline vehicles are to be permitted only in limited quantities due to pollution and lack of resources, it just simply makes sense to reserve them for the people who need/desire them most, instead of being "wasted" on all the people who don't even know about performance driving.

Imagine having to drive on the track with 1 gear, no clutch, and nothing but the electric motor buzzing. No more shifting, no more downshifting/heel-toe, How boring!

Last edited by buntatofu86, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 03:41.

Awesome Mini!

Quote from jibber :

In Europe, yes. In switzerland, nope.

Track racing in switzerland is forbidden since quite a few years. They wanted to revoke the law about two years ago, but it didn't pass.

The nearest track for me is the "cirquit du laquais" in france, which is about a five hours drive from where i live. I'll go there someday when i find the time and money... was good fun in the MX-5 i had once.

How is the oil consumption of the S2k on the race track by the way?

Wow, I never knew that. Is it for environmental concerns?

There is oil consumption but it's not that bad as long as you check the oil about once every 200 miles. Even the car's manual tells you to check the oil every time you fill it up with gas. Oil consumption is normal for the S2000's high revving engine.

You said you have an S2000 too? I am thinking about getting one of the new Miatas (2009-2010).

Thanks for the comments guys Yea, there's a long list of things that I need to improve on in my driving. And jibber, don't they have a lot of racetracks in Europe?

Well, here's my year 2000, Honda S2000, that I bought used for $13000 with 64,000 miles She is a blast to drive and I love her.









And here are some videos:

http://www.vimeo.com/user849816/videos

Last edited by buntatofu86, Sun 14 Jun 2009, 06:03.

Yup, just like Hallen said, you get about 20 minutes per session and 4 sessions per day. Run groups I've seen have all used colors with red usually being the most advanced group. Passing requires a point-by, usually on the straights, but the advanced group usually allows open passing. Events are usually around 150 USD per day. And yes, they are very, very addictive!

can anyone tell me where to find the G-meter for S1???

oh wow I never knew that but I was hoping for something like the one in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbopaj5wpQY