I'd like to see the LX-8 finished, in the same manner as the Caterham V8 concept car... a pair of bike V4s bolted end-to-end... Volia! A 2L V8! That on slicks, with a bit of aero work (No big, lairy wings, PLEASE!) would make a superb entry into the GTR class.

I'm not so keen on the "exclusive V8s" race. I liked it best when it was a true contest of ideas, the V8s, the turbo 4s and 6s, the rotaries and other oddments all thrown into the one race...

And, if we are to have a Falcon in the game, make it look like the AU, not the BA. The AU looked the peice, the BA is too conservative, and the road car V8 is a bit...Toothless?

I think the joke was that that IS an Outback..."Oh no, I've locked myself in! No food, no water and I've got multiple injuries!"...but your point is valid none the less. 75 Series for the win. My 80 Series shortly thereafter :P

If I might just bring back the Off-roader issue raised a few pages back, I would like to say this:

There are some stock cars that could feasibly compete(and do so) in off-road races. Examples are ineed the formidable Mitsubishi Pajeros, but I'd also like to suggest that the turbo-diesel Landcruisers(especially the 70 Series models) sold in Australia and South Africa, not the rubbish 4.7 litre petrol car sold in North America. That's just a fat luxury car, in the same vein as the Rav4, the Forester, the Ford Territory(an Aussie 6 cylinder sedan in a fat-suit) and the upcoming Mazda CX-7.

Pajeros, Landcruisers, Nissan Patrols, Land Rover Defenders(despite the frequent break-downs). Real off-roaders, and potentially really good off-road racers. However, the faster, Dakar-style cars won't work. A big course like that won't work in LFS. Whay might work for all concerned is a course on sand, like used by the bored people of Alice Springs. A desert rally circuit that's been left for a few years, bit of red dust, screaming diesel engines. Perfect.

The Oval track, and to call it a NASCAR track is a massive generalisation. What about those of us who race the UF1000 there :P ?

TVR Tuscon2. We need another "evil" car to go with the Raceabout :P

Same. That's the MX-5 turbo isn't it?

Someone asked for a Camry? A Camry?! A Ca-Zzzzzzzzz... Sorry, but the car is a bit old hat, and frankly boring. Bloody reliable though. Prehaps when the new model arrives we see something interesting.

A Toyota Aureion(Australian built large car, V6) might be a good one though!

I should clarify: You can lift right up, no need to smooth. It's handy.

I drive a 1991 Landcruiser wagon, 4.2 diesel manual. First gear is almost entirely redundant, with the maximum speed in first being about 15km/h(and it sounds like a thunderstorm while you're doing this). Being the big, heavy lump that the LC is, by the time you've got the clutch in and yanked the stick back into second, you're almost stopped again. First has nly a few uses, which include pulling mountains up mountains, very serious hillstarts with the boat attached and stealing garage doors :P. Heck, if you lift the cutch all by it's self, the car starts rolling, no throttle required. And then there's the low range transfer case... engage that, and well, who needs an accelerator?

In contrast, my mother's Mazda Premacy will do a healthy 50km/h in first with the little 2.0L petrol roaring with the best of them(well, exept the LC!).

I believe that the big, powerful V8 cars that are so prolific in my country might be able to match the UF1's remarkable feat, but I don't own a oil company, so I'm not about to find out!

Peter

A Saab 9-3... Weird and wonderful!

Capriceman and CrazyHarry:
It's kinda depressing looking at your cars, these big American/German jobs, and in every panel line I see the supposedly "Australian cars" that are somehow sold in swarms... Australian cars... American Design and ownership.

CrazyHarry's cars are the Holden Commodore and Holden Monaro respectivly, while CapriceMan's namesake is the Holden Caprice. It's an interesting illustration of how our local motor industry is a bit of a joke. It might be argued that the Toyota Camry(most of which are built here) is just as Australian as the Commodore and it's spinnoffs -_-
Bleh, I don't like American cars anyway.
Peter

I threatened. And now I've gone and done it. I'ce taken photos of my 1991 Toyota LandCruiser(an ex-fire truck), which is, for reference, 4.2 NA diesel, and it's a lot better than the silly V8 version. Hell if I'm paying that fuel bill. Honestly, who buys a 4x4 with a petrol engine?

Anyhoo, I give you the mighty 'cruiser!

My word yes. Rotors for all! I'd be putting my first place on the RX-8, but hooning about in an R100 would suffice :P

Seconded on the RX-8. You have to brave to try to sell a car as unconventional as that, and then go and do it. I admire that, and the car itself, simply because it's so dammn weird... Oh, and it goes fast :P

Yeah, I agree this would be a handy feature. Having a full three pedal set-up would be better still though.

Good point, well made.

Yeah, I notice that as well, if you're doing things right, you'll have the tires of the UF or XF up around 100ºC in very short order, but not much wear on the tires(so they don't get changed at pit stops) and I usually pop one of the front tires about 4-8 laps in(depending on the track). But I really struggle to be compeditive with RWD cars, so I usually stick with the FWD cars.

Let's not forget the Pancake-GTR! That thing is crazy...

All, this might be worth mentioning again:
There is very little chance of any major car manufacturers giving the devs licence to add their cars to our sim. It's just about certain that if they did, the cost of the game would increase rather quickly to cover royalties. Some smaller racing team/low quantity makers may be easier to get on board though.

SO: Rather than asking for specific cars, ask for a car with a feature and/or look.

So, something that resembles a classic V8 muscle car, that's well within the relm of possibility, but sadly, my old fave, the 67' Plymouth Fury isn't really an option. At the other side of the motoring community, my all time favorite, the Mazda RX-8 is even less likely to make it, as it's still in production. It's a shame, but that's the way it is.

Peter

I'll second the Reliant Robin, that an a UF1000 could add up to a Mr Bean race.... So long as we can knock off the front wheel.

That nearly is the LX8... I was hoping the LX8 would borrow the 3L V8 from the FO8, but that would work too.

Yes! Diesel powered road cars! *Dances* I might suggest something along the lines of the new Mazda6 Turbo Diesel.

Oh, if there's going to be a Golf GTI in the game( or something simmilar) give it some competition. A BMW 1 series with the V6, a Mazda3 MPS/Mazdaspeed.

Peter

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4) Turbo diesel 4x4s? At least have something like the Bower Wildcat which has some high speed offroad ability. The whole we want a Paris-Dakkar sim thing is never going to happen it's just so unfeasable.

9) Gets requested a lot I think trying to simulate 2 stroke engines is going to be too much work, unless Scawen does actually put bikes in as well (though Cooper 500s could be fun ). The new Papy sim (Fir$t, iLawyer) seems to have a couple of kart tracks listed as 'partners' so my guess is it will have karts in it, the one thing you can be shore of is if Papy do it the physics will be properly sorted.

10) Same as two stroke engines too much work just to get your Skyline also seeing as it's offered by about 3 manufacturers all of whom use a different system it's hardly that easy to find the information to simulate accuratley.

4) I'm not asking for a Dakar Rally sort of idea, more a close in, slow and difficult off-road situation. I can't say I've heard of the wildcat, but my idea for off-roading doesn't involve high speed. Each to his own though.

9)Why do they need to be 2-strokes?

10) I wasn't thinking of a Skyline, Where did you get that idea?I was angling more along the lines of the Mazda MX-6 or Millenia. I wasn't even aware there were skylines with 4WS

I hadn't heard that. Is that a rumour, or is that offical?

here's my S3 wishlist:
1) A rotary of some description, non-turbo for me(RWD or else...)

2)The LX-8. No cancelations, I(and a lot of others) want this car real bad.

3)a little roadster with lowish power and awesome handling(it's no good asking for a specific car, that can't really be done)

4) A serious 4x4. No Hummers, but something simmilar a Toyota Landcruiser, or a Landrover Defender(And entirely off-road race tracks to go with them).Turbo diesel. No V8s. Only fools buy V8 4x4s.

5) Some sort of supercar (Big 10 cylinder or more things)

7) 6 and 8 cylinder sedans, simmilar to the Ford Falcon, the Holden Commodore and the dog-ugly Chrysler 300C

8) The racing versions of the above.

9) Go-carts. Just for a laugh.

10) Something with 4 wheel steering.