finally a new pb! 1:34.09! and sector 1 - 31.41 still have some tenth to improve but its already looking much better.

again thanks for all the helpers.

the last corner
i started to take that corner more seriously and now i get to top speed of 165 before t1 which is 1-2kmh improvment

braking for t1
i tried a few times using the cluch button and braking 5-3-2.i think its helping a bit but i'm not sure
"When ur going down to 3rd and 2nd try tapping the throttle ever so slightly and "
i cant do that because i dont have another finger to press the throttle button while pressing the brake + cluch
the brakes setting are 590\70
and btw the rear wheels are locked for almost all the way when i'm braking for t1

the chikane
i'm working on taking as strait line as possible .
i think i need to watch partyboyU's lap a few more times and just practice on that.

first of all thanks for all the helpers.
I saw that when i'm taking the last turn better it does help the time so i'm working on that corner too.
I've also tried to approach t1 like the wr and i do get on the gas sooner but still his braking distance is smaller than mine and we are using the same cars setup!
about the direction changes i think i need to practice a bit more .
i usually dont use the cluch button, can it really help my times ? how ? changing up earlier ?

Hi,
im practicing the BL gp / XFG for a long time and i cant get a good sector 1 time! my pb for the whole track is 1:34.590 and my sector 1 was 31.78! i saw the wr(31.13) and it means i have plenty of time to improve!
i tried AnalyzeForSpeed also and did not understand what wrong accept for his later braking
i've searched the forum and read somethings about trail braking, i didnt understand if its posibble to do with mouse\keyboard conf' and if maybe i'm already doing it.
i've attached the replay(lap 5) and an AnalyzeForSpeed pic.
hope you could help me,thanks.

omg! two pbs in one day!!

Quote from zeugnimod :

Not with LFS itself, only with a movie editing program.

Ah ok .. i wanted to upload my hotlap time to lfsworld so i wanted only lap no 5 ...

Ok thanks .. i'll keep practicing untill i'll get my low 34

btw, is it posibble to take lap no 5 for example from the replay apart and put it in a file of its own ?

Well after some practice and 2 days without improving my times i broke my pb.. its now 1:35.08..
I lookedat my replays both from the inside and the outside of the car and really noticed i'm not looking far enough ahed and i still need to take some better lines as said here..

I've turn off the throttle cut on up shift , does it mean i need to shift up earlier now ?

Quote from thisnameistaken :

On a lot of the corners you seem to turn in too early (chicane both the right and left, second right at the end of the straight, last uphill left). I have the same problem sometimes. Because of this you're slow on the exit and lose time all the way up the next straight. Try concentrating more on the exit of the corner than the apex.

Edit: Regarding the brakes, I only saw you lock up at turn one, where you're braking over a crest so there's less weight on the wheels. I'd leave the braking force just high enough so you don't lock up with the pedal flat at the other corners on the circuit and practice threshold braking for turn one - anticipating the locked wheels as you go over the crest and braking less to account for it.

I tried turn in later but it doesn't do good:1.i miss the apex 2. i get oversteer because i need to turn the wheel more instantly..
so what should i do ?


and about the brakes its ok now

Ok here is a replay of 2 laps
the brakes are 590 nm and balance - 75%

thanks for the link!

Quote from AndroidXP :

Leave the brake help on, it's kind of a primitive ABS that tries to prevent lockups. It might not be useful for wheel users, but for players with a limited input device like keyboard and mouse it is ok.

Also, locking rear wheels are bad bad bad! They make the car extremely unstable and unpredictable, without providing any benefit at all. To fix this, set the brake balance more forward (higher percentage - 75 to 80% seem to be quite common).

i've set it to 75% and they are still locking like i havent changed a thing(it was 70% before), why is that ?

Quote from blowthru67mm :

Wow I downloaded ghost mod, and boom 2 laps in I run 1:36.32, Over a sec in two laps with ghost.. It helps with my lines alot

where did you get the ghost mode ??

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sKurjz thanks for the warnning..

Last edited by lamborghini8, Tue 2 May 2006, 12:45.

yes patch u and the firewall is ok ..
port 63392 is open

i've teried again and each server i am trying to connect it says " did not recive guest info" so i've tried to host and no one connect but i saw some massages a few times " guest info timed out"...
why is it not working ??

I'vw installed the new patch and since then i cant play online.
almost every server i try to log in it tells me something like guess info did not recived ..
and when i do connect to one we start a race and i cant see the other players and on the map it show like they didnt start at all, they stuck in the same position..
what is happaning here ? what should i do ?

I just notice something maybe important..
i noticed at the game's options that the brake helping is on(abs ? ), should i turn it off ? and another thing, i saw for the first time replay of my lap from outside the car and noticed that before each turn when i brake the rear wheels are locked and smoking, it cant be good right ?

I did tried to make my own and i have read the manual and know what most of the parts does but even when i know what is springs stiffness and anti sway bar i still couldn't make a good setup.. i usually lower the ride to very low and rear stifness pretty stiff and front a bit softer and add some anti roll bar oh and put a locked diff. i dont really get the damping and toe in stuff ..
maybe i just need to keep trying to make a good setup because when i'll have a good one that good for my driving style i guess i could really improve my times more.

thanks.
well for the car i use this setup
http://setupfield.teaminferno. ... php?p_setup_usage_id=1630
and for the driving i use the mouse, left button shift up ,right one shift down and arrows for brake,gas,cluch(i use automatic) and handbrake

another improvment!
31.96 !! +
35.23 +
28.23

1:35.42 again on the 4th lap!!. when i started this thread i couldn't belive theres so much to improve..

!!! i did 1:36.41 !!! i know its not perfect but what an improvment!.
i found out how to put less fuel and at lap no 4 i did it..
well now its 2 am and i've got a math test tomorrow so its time to sleep.
thanks for everyone who helped me here, finally i succeded some nice lap times.
i'll try to get to 34-35 tomorrow..

nice lap!.. is it yours ? i saw some use of half throttle which i cant do with the keyboard ...
oh and i didnt know i can control the fuel, how do i do it ?

well now i had another go and managed 1:37.8 at lap no 4 but i forgot to look at the tyre status..
without all this tyre warming at the start, at which lap should they preform best ?

Ok so now i used the current wr holder setup and did 1:38.00! its already a two seconds improvment and i guess i still have a 2-3 seconds in my lines and breaking points before tyre warmin,manual cluch and all of those things.
one more question, is there a way to know the tyre warming status during the hot laps ?

I've just watch the video again and i got his lines and breaking points but i also notice that he often enter corners lifting the throttle and instantly turnning the wheel and i dont understand how its tail maintain its grip and the car doesnt oversteer, maybe i should change my setup ? i use the default hard track. I know tha basic of suspention tunningbut i dont think i can really make a good setup.