Ive got a really good cantenna, but like he said, more math than you think. Works great. Soup can or similar.

cbr250r?!?!? man im hoping to get one of those this year.

Im in chch. Where you at?

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Again, the car could make a million hp, but in the real world, how fast is it?

I have seen heaps of da6 integra's over here pulling low 14's from a motor i described above. Thats a 1.6ltr.

I have seen loads of them with a b18c chucked in reach into 13's with no stress.

Going on about how an outdated low power per ltr motor makes ok power is nothing special, a smaller engine making much more power per leter is far more interesting from an mechanical point of view, and like I said in a lightish da6 14's is easy with very basic breather mods.

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personally I'm happy to bag them specifically because everyone carries on about their power / litre as if it really 'meant something' Since when did power / litre have any effect at all on how well a car drives?

Are you being sarcastic? It plays a big part. Its all about power to weight, and having a motor that weighs less and has a higher ouput but is still suited to the car is what its all abou

Man some people talk some shit.

Honda make amazing n/a motors with fantastic power for their size.

Maybe im lucky living in NZ as we have so many imports here (like 80%) and I get hands on experience with a rang of cars. American cars are ok at using lots of gas, and being big. Its not hard to get good power from a big v8 is it?

It cracks me up when people hassle a b16a motor making over 110kw at the wheels. Thats 110kw at the wheels from a 1600 with I/H/E... not bad power per ltr....

Dont get me wrong I love v8's too, I love any engine that makes good power and is well designed, so I dont see why people need to bag honda's just because a lot of younger folk own them and stick clear tail lights and chrome wheels on them... right motor, wrong body

I have a 1983 Toyota Trueno RWD of corse...

And a 1988 Mitsi Cyborg Turbo, LSD etc.

Turbo spool would be great if it was a bit louder... Seems strange that all the turbo cars take so long to come on boost though... quite unrealistic compared to a real turbo car....