no, its only because LFS limits frame rate to 40 on shift U mode. better gpu more frame rate, cpu has very little to do with it, has more to do with physics. and if your cores are maxing when you are viewing an empty track with shift U then I think you have something wrong going on with your pc. maybe a background process.
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I am not talking about release estimations, im talking about e.g what has been done last month, what were the obstacles, what are being planned to be done, how good is it going etc. otherwise inevitably its hard for people to understand what can ever take 10 months making just one track. then flame wars and lfs is dead talks begin. but i believe as i said earlier there is no "finished" thing in scawen's book, so it constantly needs work and cant be released ever. he constantly finds new things to do while doing the new things he found while completing the first things. I dont want to think in a way that he announces something then never works on it. i believe former is the real reason.
no, if he took 5min to write whats going on, people will talk in a more sensible way. like i said there has been lack of new content for the last 7 years, how come when there is progress report there isn't that much flame around? simple thinking.
see? this is heating up again. why its heating up? because no progress report or anything for probably more than 2 months and again complete silence about where we are.
tbh when scawen announced westhill first time and claimed release date "in a few weeks", if someone had said we would have to wait around 10 months -maybe a year- I'd never, ever, ever believe it. but here we are.
but when considering the last "new content" was 8 years ago, this is less of a surprise.
tbh when scawen announced westhill first time and claimed release date "in a few weeks", if someone had said we would have to wait around 10 months -maybe a year- I'd never, ever, ever believe it. but here we are.
but when considering the last "new content" was 8 years ago, this is less of a surprise.
you serious right now?
all of your points in this thread are based on taking "unproven" "assumptions" for granted. as if there is a proven assumption. if there is a proven thing, then its not an assumption anymore. too much usage of unnecessary words.
so, you do realize that you have been making assumptions too, right? you have been making assumptions about how would public made cars make this game a blast, or how community would be still here even though there are many titles around which offers great modding capability and actually are built for modding in the first place. assumptions about how would scawen be able to release some tools while still preventing people from using the cars they built, with less effort than he would put on building several new cars etc. that one is totally pointless cause what you are "imagining" is i am sure if ever possible, going to need much work. and I gave you an example how even whole AC crew could not manage to do that as people cracked their cars.
so I have been making assumptions about how that would bore people in short time. I had no problems with yours because thats what you think would happen, and this is what i think will happen.
btw what's your problem with this "last word" thing i dont get it. If i have something to say i will say it, not for the sake of having the last word. no worries.
one serious question, do you enjoy creating a sentence using 25 words while you can say the exact same thing in just 5 words? do you think that makes you seem clever, or you just enjoy adding any word that comes to your mind? where did you get that style from, matrix the architect?
what words?
yes I see thats what you described. and I say this "intriguing" effect will be short lived.
do you think those people use lfs just because they are so interested in modified lfs cars, or they just found the perfect platform, the most easy to use? the latter is the answer. not that tweaking made them so much interested with the game. dont release anything and they'll be here for years and not ask for anything. and most of those servers are demo fyi. which means for them its again not the cars but the platform itself.
once this effect is gone then what? now if scawen releases this scirocco, even though it won't be so much different as he said, it will make us see new faces. once he gets modding tools out, he won't have the same chance anymore. lets wait and see what kind of hype westhill will bring and think about what kind of hype would it bring if we were already able to create tracks as we wanted. rarity of content is what makes it valuable.
yes its full of tweak servers. you just need to know how to see them. and tweaking a car and using a completely different car: 2 different things. latter being much more intriguing.
you imagining something doesn't mean it can be done either. and yes it can't be done as a tool for lfs. better create a new game instead of trying to accomplish such a thing. ac released tools for the community, soon after, they cracked original cars and started editing them and released them as "mods" to the game. soon there will be people who will crack dlc and I'll let you know.
just the same as no matter how hard you try as a dev, your game will be cracked. your idea of "letting people create cars, but not letting people put it in the game" is no different. you can imagine all you want, but its not possible. and if you will go "x game hasn't been cracked" I say not a popular game and thats exactly the only reason.
and about the timing thing, you are talking about the time up until modding tools release, I am talking about what will happen after the tools have been released.
you imagining something doesn't mean it can be done either. and yes it can't be done as a tool for lfs. better create a new game instead of trying to accomplish such a thing. ac released tools for the community, soon after, they cracked original cars and started editing them and released them as "mods" to the game. soon there will be people who will crack dlc and I'll let you know.
just the same as no matter how hard you try as a dev, your game will be cracked. your idea of "letting people create cars, but not letting people put it in the game" is no different. you can imagine all you want, but its not possible. and if you will go "x game hasn't been cracked" I say not a popular game and thats exactly the only reason.
and about the timing thing, you are talking about the time up until modding tools release, I am talking about what will happen after the tools have been released.
you got that right. "you" as in "devs" in your claim, who is supposed to let good cars in and bad cars out, which is not possible cause its not up to you to decide anymore.
once you let people create cars, it doesnt matter how much you "approve" one car over the other, people will use what they want and it will be a mess. then they will lose interest, then you will try to get people back with couple of cars they'll say na, its not even a new thing anymore.
where did you talk about timing? I must have missed it, or you didnt say that at all? I think the latter is the case.
I dont think its possible to let people both create cars and pick the ones you want. once you've let people create cars then the arrow has already left the bow. you can't just pick the content you want, there will be poorly made funny cars everywhere and nobody will care about what scavier chose, everybody will have any car they want, and lfs will look like a pile of trash cars. if there is a way to block them with master server which i dont think there is, then they will create cracked servers which will make it worse. point is you can't just stop people once you release tools.
and soon people will get bored of less quality many quantity of cars and after that- as there are considerably lower physics calculations in lfs, its harder to make cars handle so much different than each other- so when scawen tries to push lfs with a car or two when modding hype starts to decline, then nobody will be interested as much anymore.
if you let people make cars for the game, then official cars won't be awaited like this. if you let people create tracks, we will care less about new westhill.
and as lfs is quite old i think modding community is sided with rf and mostly ac now, as they can create what they want more detailed with more physics calculations and graphics. also probably easier. I doubt we will have any quality content if scawen lets people make cars and tracks.
that window mode while connecting bugged me for years and it still does when i make a fresh install. first thing one does when he/she cant see servers is exit lfs, in which case one will already see the error message so its not needed i think.
letting community create cars will give it a short lived "lfs is active" illusion, then it will go down, and even if devs release new official cars, it wont excite us as much as it now would. like the saying too many cooks spoil the stew. rarity of content for years is what made us so hungry for updates. ac got that "dream pack", but I am more excited for westhill.
and it still does when i make a fresh install. first thing one does when he/she cant see servers is exit lfs, in which case one will already see the error message so its not needed i think.letting community create cars will give it a short lived "lfs is active" illusion, then it will go down, and even if devs release new official cars, it wont excite us as much as it now would. like the saying too many cooks spoil the stew. rarity of content for years is what made us so hungry for updates. ac got that "dream pack", but I am more excited for westhill.
we know working at own pace meant years of not working on it as well. so i'd not call it "enjoying it". if i enjoy something i do it often. very often. even if i had all the money in the world, i'd do it still. i really enjoy riding bike, but i havent done it past 4 years. i enjoy riding at my own pace doesn't sound right does it.
well and no he does not unless somebody asks for it in a half moaning way. knowing something's blocking the way and thats why its taking longer is better than not knowing anything and having complete silence.
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idk why its so important to not draw hidden objects as we all have computers that can handle much more than lfs. it just causes extra work and probably will bring like 10-20 fps more, and im sure it will have bugs to fix. so cons overweight pros in my view.
couple years from now newbies will ask the same question for new westhill. then we will give the same following answers;
it wasn't handling properly, now shadows don't generate properly. creating a totally new super-shadow maker. what a similar story.
it wasn't handling properly, now shadows don't generate properly. creating a totally new super-shadow maker. what a similar story.
what will happen when your car is in a certain path and you press shift+U and look at other areas? or say watch other cars.
oh please tell me,
how "success of free to play games and how demo racers keep asking for more content" has anything to do with the "progress" "of" "westhill". nobody cares about what game you play or how much you pay for it or your unfunny little jokes. stop choosing popular threads to try to make people read this crap and get offended easily and start talking shitty. because when this thread is up i want to read posts talking about westhill.
somehow I don't like the idea that westhill will be on a test patch first. I'd rather see it out at once to each and everyone and witness EVERY SINGLE S2 server has westhill running for the next 2 MONTHS at least
I am also thinking that it will give devs quite a while to work on other updates, with people not whining about lack of content. not that they do it so much these days. interior of the cars and exterior could be vastly improved, but environment, roads, trees etc look perfectly fine for 10+ year old game. I just have been trying to find where the sun is.
btw @cargame my english hurts when reading your posts
I am also thinking that it will give devs quite a while to work on other updates, with people not whining about lack of content. not that they do it so much these days. interior of the cars and exterior could be vastly improved, but environment, roads, trees etc look perfectly fine for 10+ year old game. I just have been trying to find where the sun is.
btw @cargame my english hurts when reading your posts
almost nobody uses centering spring in game. it automatically centers the wheel no matter what, so its not realistic. disable it on the driver of the wheel, and allow the game to adjust the settings
i think its not a bug, you are simply missing something or have wrong options and probably too lazy to check throughly.
download the installer again, install clean LFS somewhere else, that will show you there is no such a bug.
download the installer again, install clean LFS somewhere else, that will show you there is no such a bug.
I have never heard or seen a slown before. this guy is either creating new words or living in another planet in the case of seeing each other things, i see me as a cat, and you as a mouse that i play with
in the case of seeing each other things, i see me as a cat, and you as a mouse that i play with Why?
If you need to ask then you aren't ready to know.
No lol seriously. Just look at that image. It's horrible.
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