I've got skin on my helmet already

IDK, nr2003 is about on the same level as LFS in MP. Except for the fact 43 people can race with nr2003. But for a sim that's 3 years old it was way ahead of it's time. No one has been able to defeat it yet. rFactor is trying but IMO will still fall short.

Gotcha, thanks a lot.

Is there a way to sort the race servers so I can group all the servers together that actually have people racing in them?

The only thing good about F1 is the pre-race hot chicks j/k.

As for Nascar, LFS could probably never duplicate that series correctly due to all of different rules and such that this game does not have. I love Nascar but I didn't purchase this game for that. I purchased it for the sheer enjoyment of racing period. Plus without real-world tracks, Nascar, Indy or Champ cars just wouldn't be the same.

IMO it takes just as much $$ and engineering a chassis for ovals as it does for road racing. Sometimes more in some cases.

So after all that I would say what's the big deal? If someone wants to build models for these different series, go ahead. If you don't want them, don't install them. Personally I probably would d/l just to have them.

But I will say this if LFS dev's did delve into stock cars, it would be HUGE because the netcode is superior to most games out there.

I don't know sometimes I feel I'm faster if I'm chasing someone down. As long as I'm not abusing the car. But you're right about pitting before you get into traffic. But if there's enough people in the race chances are you're gonna be racing someone every lap anyway, which is more fun and the whole reason I go online to begin with, to race real people where their judgement isn't always the right one.

Yeah I got taken out by someone who was a couple of laps down last night. He said sorry he didn't see me. Well shouldn't he have gotten a blue flag to know I was there? Maybe in future releases the dev's could implement a message that says something like "_______ was issued a blue flag" that way you know he got it and should heed way at the safest opportunity.

Hmm, maybe when I get home I'll make a crackpipe skin, that would be cool. J/K.

My absolute favorite is cockpit view on the little Kart (whatever the name of it is). I drive cockpit mode on everything, sometimes I use the virtual mirror though depending on the car.

I know I'll get flame sprayed for this but how 'bout a good ol' 2400lb, 800hp stock car.:hidesbehi

Well I took the plunge and went ahead and purchased LFS. I've been pretty much strictly a stock car sim racer ever since it's inception so I'm hoping LFS can be just as entertaining. I've never really been a big fan of road courses but I really like the way LFS drives, especially the V8 F1 style car, can't remember the exact name for it. That Sauber is insane, good thing I can go back into the garage every time I'm at the beach . Hey during a race, is there a tow feature to get me out of the sand?

OK thanks. When I get home I'll look for a yellow box. Does it take you to the pit screen or does it service your car right there?

I just got S2 licensed last week and I'm having a bit of a problem finding my pit when I go to pits. Am I supposed to go to my pitstall (which garage is it? IDK) or an area on pit road. I really like how rFactor has you pit but LFS has got me stumped.

Wow, thanks for all the responses. Yes I too was leaning toward LFS but now after seeing all the positive responses and how quickly, I think I definitely will go with LFS. If not for the game itself, then for this community.
Are there going to be more tracks added from the LFS makers or just from modders once this version goes final?
I've noticed in the demo that the AI just drive their own line and never waver whether you're next to them or not. Is this also happening in the full version?
Last question, is there a free drive mode where the entire track is opened up(without the barriers blocking the roads)?

I'm thinking of purchasing LFS S2 but haven't made up my mind. I'm torn between this and NetKar Pro. What's the difference and do you guys think I'd be better off with LFS?

Also, the demo file is 230mb. When I unlock, the entire game fits into that 230mb? Or am I missing something?