Because you asked so nicely today

88/Raven88/Dan Sanger/USA/Second 2 Only Ourself Racing

Quote from BlueFlame :

The problem isn't the event, or the majority. It's around 5 or so people that cause wrecks in every 500 they attend.

I would tend to agree the problem is around 5 people, but it is really everyone. And yes including myself at times. Is when anytime someone get's a run on someone in a group of cars they think they have to pass so they try to force the issue. Maybe when theirs 5 laps to go then I would say yeah have a run go for it. But when your on lap 20 of 270 or whatever you might want to think about the passes you make. And when your not in the same TS channel as they people are you racing against they might not have an idea your there.

Seems like when we run the practice sessions everyone remembers the fact that they can back off when they get a run. But once it's race time its full throttle or nothing. When you are in that huge pack of cars chances are they are not going to get away. You will probably catch them the next corner when someone goes wide.

The other problem and it always has been a problem is restarts. Seems people want to jump them. Part of might be Deko being a little slow on getting the green flag in the air. But hes going to throw it once he knows the leader is going. But the other issue can be the leader trying to play games with the rest of the field by going the low line one time, high line the next, low to high to low, high to low. Telling the people in your channel your going now works good if your all in line 1st to whatever spot. But the people in the back on the field that then try to jump because they know when the leader is going just create a huge mess for everyone else.

Needless to say but all Deko can do is react to how WE are racing. If WE race like idiots he will treat us like idiots. If WE race like normal thinking people he will treat us like normal thinking people.

Quote from Flame CZE :

I liked the part where Dan Sanger beat me on tiebreaker NOT.

Well I could of beat you on time. But I figured I will save that for next year

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6-28-13 - Updated for skin tweak

Last edited by Raven88, Fri, 28 Jun 2013 05:20. Reason : Skin Tweak

Quote from dekojester :

It's called http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_driving last I checked.

Hey you yell at us when we do Defensive driving. So I like offensive driving better.

Quote from CodeLyoko1 :

thats your mistake. you should think about other as well, not only about yourself. Don´t make risks that don´t need to be there. That onl cause you and other to crash.

here we go again ´´to finish first you first have to finish´´

All I can do is think about myself. I have no idea what your going to do when your on the track. I have no idea what anyone else is going to do on the track. I just react to what happens in front of me.

Quote from oscarhardwick :

I Luurrve the smell of hypocrisy in the morning.

Then man the hell up and take some for driving like a complete tard early on trying to get through the field.

Tell me where I drove like a complete tard. I will tell you the same thing I told Blueflame. State when and where. And if I did I will say I did. You have raced with me long enough oscar to know I will man up and say it if I did.

Quote from BlueFlame :

You race to crash, there's enough proof of that in your previous races.

If you class pushing 4 and 5 wide as 'not racing that hard' then that's your problem right there.

I'd rather crash out knowin I gave it my all unlike you you who didn't. I know I didn't leave anything on the table. I didn't win but had one of the top cars. I can live with that. I can't live by racing half assed. That's why I take responsibility for an accident if it's my fault.

Quote from BlueFlame :

I'm not going to waste another 4hours searching all the times you caused cautions. You're not going to accept the fact that you can't race closely and cleanly with other cars so don't bother dragging this out.

Sowhat your saying is you don't know. And yes I can race cleanly with others I do it a lot. I think it's just you that has the problem. So unless you can show me what your talking about then it's your issue.

If you don't like how I race then don't race with me. But you want the respect then you have to earn it. Last time I checked this is called racing. And what I did today was race and race to win. If you don't race to win. I want nothing to do with you.

So show me the proof or shut up. I'll take whatever fault is mine. I've been like that my whole life. If its my fault I take blame. Today I didn't race that hard at all till the end.

Quote from BlueFlame :

You don't seem to know what's around you and you seem oblivious to your own mistakes. Did you win the race? No that's right you crashed out but what a minute I thought you were fast?

Oh wait, being fast in qualifying doesn't mean that you have a right to, nor the capable brain power not to force 4 cars up the track because there is a 1ft gap between the bottom car and the apron. I watched you do it in the practice races and you did the same here. You brag constantly about making your way back through the field after being laps down.


#1 You shouldn't be a lap down in the first place, unless it's of no fault of your own (which in your case it was your own fault)
#2 Do you ever think that people see you coming and stay the hell out of your immediate path because you've ran them off the track previously and they don't wanna get caught up in your crap? I stayed the hell away from you as much as I could because I'd knew you'd wreck by the end. Which you did.


That's your problem, you're so arrogant and you throw your car into gaps that don't exist because you clearly don't care if you ruin someone's race as long as you don't get wrecked yourself. That is the attitude that gave this race so many cautions. I counted 4 cautions that you caused via stupidity that I saw on track for myself and I counted another 2 on the 40mins of the stream I've seen that I didn't see in the race.

The race proved that your racing attitude doesn't work.

Numerous times I would back out of a 3/4 wide battle because I not only didn't want to wreck myself, but more importantly IMO I didn't wanna wreck anyone else.

Tell me what laps and time codes that I apparently did all this stuff. Was I fast yes. Did I put my car in gaps were there was a gap, yes. But only because I knew there was enough gap and it was the only place to go.

But you want to say I caused all those wrecks, give me laps and timecodes so I can go and watch them.

If I make a mistake I take responsibility for it, ask anyone that's raced with me before. And last time I checked it was called racing, not following the leader. When I get wrecked and go to the back I have to get back to the front. And the time I got a lap down I actually think it was you that caused me to wreck and get that lap down. Do I care no, I got my lap back and raced back up to the front.

as for your 2 you sure as hell didn't stay out of my way when I was by you, you seemed to follow me though a lot of that and race with me. As far wrecking in the end, that wasn't my fault, if you actually watch what happened. It was just a misjudgement by niko or whoever the other person was up there with us.

Quote from Mustangman759 :

Or just because you got lapped 2/3 times, you did not seen that aggressive though imo

Well I lost 2 laps at the end when me and niko got together and I spun and hit the wall.... But other wise I made my lap back from earlier.

Quote from BlueFlame :

I enjoyed myself though, other than Sanger and Dohnalík doing their traditional 'last lap' moves on every lap possible putting other cars in danger and into the wall and out of the track etc.

Ummmm I wasn't that aggressive today. I still trying to figure out why people thought I was. Was it because I am so much faster then most everyone?

Quote from nikopdr :

there will be a red flag.

Yes but what will the red flag be for this year??

17 SC's and the cake is a lie

#40 Car

Quote from TexasLTU :

...and the time is actually pretty shite for a pole, I had 96/96/97/95 in the pocket (offline prac) but sadly not enough balls to take a new run, which was good already, and later proven to be a pole run.

Quote from TexasLTU :

Can't understand why you're so negative there, if you have deleted your pole once to improve it even more, that doesn't mean everyone must do it.

you said it yourself that time is prety shite for pole, but you got pole and that's what matters no need to take another run if you dont want to. It's not easy to run 96's it's such a fine line to run a 96 or faster. If it came off negative sorry. It was a good job. I was actually surprised to see more people running in the .96's.

Quote from TexasLTU :

...and the time is actually pretty shite for a pole, I had 96/96/97/95 in the pocket (offline prac) but sadly not enough balls to take a new run, which was good already, and later proven to be a pole run.

gotta go big or go home, ive pulled my run in years past to just go faster..... deko likes to say its ego driven, well yes yes it is when I know i can do 94s and should be able to get some 93's in

Quote from nikopdr :

that's not really impressive.


The thing that is more impressive is that Klaidas only used 1 qual run and he's on pole, and Dan is 3rd.



And also, LLM, I do hope you have got your shit together, I don't want this to end up like 250 did.

3rd because I failed at the qualy with only getting 4 .96's should of been 4 .94's....... at least 4 .95's...... such a fail

Quote from Mustangman759 :

fixed.

That's because usually i'm on pole but because I was at road America yesterday I couldn't attend. But you could say 1st time someone has tied my track record for r2's.

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Second 2 Only Ourself Racing,40,Raven88,Dan Sanger,USA

Last edited by Raven88, Tue, 15 May 2012 22:34. Reason : Editing Number

How in the world are the bonus points applied?

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Last edited by Raven88, Thu, 16 Jun 2011 00:00. Reason : to make deko happy

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