I'm astonished by this... I've always thought that it's supposed to be a standing start grid formation but rolling. 100% overlap never ever crossed my mind and now atleast one admin is saying that's been the case this (and last season?) season.

So +1 from me, 100% overlap is total rubbish in my mind. Hopefully this thing gets sorted out now and penalties are given without hesitation if there are infractions in the future.

\o/ Still going strong

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I'm in.

Quote from kamo2000 :

NIce races today. I got few fights in race 1 and was accused of waving...that was interesting..finished 7th.

In race 2 i got involved in a bridge crash which gave me some nice damages.. so i spent 30 secs in pits to left them on 20th place. I finished 6th hehe.

I reviewed the waving situation from a replay and I have to apologise for blaming you of waving. There was not enough sideways movement to blame you of that.

However in the instance that before closer review felt like waving you did do slight turn to right just before you turned hard to the left and took the inside line. That small movement to left indicated me that you were going to take the normal racing line before braking. I got confused and had already decided to try the inside line and at that time you turned to the inside as well. So at the moment it felt to me like you were deliberately blocking but that was not the case.

So you didn't wave I just got confused by that slight turn to right just before you took the inside line and made quick conclusion before reviewing that situation closer.

I'm in unless something sudden comes up. At the moment anyday except tuesday seems to be ok for me but I'll vote for thursday.

Sing me up.

Sad to hear that, I was already looking forward to the race but see ya next tuesday then...

Team: n1Racing (NordicOne Racing)
LFS Username: Psilok

I'm not blaming Bawbag in anyway and I doubt anyone is... I just think it should be considered if this matter needed to be included in to the rules in someway. The case that quest driver probably didn't affect the outcome this time is totally irrelevant.

I don't think moe and lfs gt can be compared. Firstly the moe races are way longer than lfs gt races and there is even that 24h event and I do understand that it maybe hard to find enough drivers for those events even from a "good" team. However it should't be that hard to get 2-4 drivers for 3 hours of lfs gt... Secondly in moe it isn't a big problem because almost all of the good drivers is already racing in moe... I can't see someone from Cyber driving for Mercury racing.

The bottom line is that if this IS allowed then it would be pretty unfair if there were a team using few moe "aliens" only and had zero drivers from the team itself also even ONE good driver form another team in the top 3 (GT1) teams could change the outcome of this whole season...

Last edited by Psilok, Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:34.

Quote from Commander :

I can understand what you think about it, but let me tell you that mustang in the practise session had also been driving at low 16s to mid 15s, a pace which was only slightly topped by bawbag.
What would you do if you get to know 15 minutes before the race starts that the 2nd driver cannot join due to Inet probs? Since there was no one from the team available in that short period Marius could either have driven alone (which would have been seen as unfair by you aswell I guess) or look for a substitute, which he did.
The gap between Inferno GT2 and the next car from the GT2 was like 2 laps behind ? so this wasn't a case of a close finish, even with Marius rolling over in the first laps making an additional pit and losing time.....

It's not about the speed it's about the princible. I would be against this even if the guy was slow as hell if he's not from the same team. If this is a team race then it is a team race not "who have the fastest friends"-race.

"Since there was no one from the team available in that short period Marius could either have driven alone (which would have been seen as unfair by you aswell I guess) or look for a substitute, which he did."
As I said I see that as a TEAM weakness. In my opinion it's your own fault if you haven't taken this possibility to concideration and chosen possible backup drivers.

And what goes for that "What would you do if you get to know 15 minutes before the race starts that the 2nd driver cannot join due to Inet probs?": We chose few guys before (though not much more than 15min before) the race to be as backups (from OUR team and with zero practice). If I were to disconnect just before the race and not be able reconnect one of the backups would have driven.

Last edited by Psilok, Sun, 9 Mar 2008 20:43. Reason : Added some stuff

I agree with plehto. We (n1Racing) had issues finding enough drivers in few races before and we had to do some compromises. In my opinion it's the teams weakness if they dont have enough drivers or haven't chosen an backup driver and I see this as an team race so it's obviously unfair for other teams.

Last edited by Psilok, Sun, 9 Mar 2008 20:11.

LFSWorld Username: Psilok
I would like to run for the position of nation's manager: no
Skills: Last resort

I totally agree with Profi. I'v been driving lfs from the early demo days (2001-2002??) and used custom view for years and I also noticed the cockpit view to be better when the forced cockpit option came along. It just needed some time to get used but after that it was much better. Actually I used both cockpit view and custom view for some time (changed it depending on if I had a "serius" race or just public racing...) to get used to it... But since patch-Y I'v only used cockpit view and I'm not planning on going back to custom view. I also feel that I get less feedback from the car with custom view.

Thanks to F1RST Racing for the invitation and for organising the event. It was fun racing with good drivers though it was a bit rough at times but after all I really enjoyed the event. I hope there will be a next time.

Merry christmas to everyone!

I'm pretty sure that I will be there so count me in aswell!

n1 J. Toikka, Psilok

n1Racing #74 (GT1)

V. Rantala - jahvetti - FIN
J. Toikka - Psilok - FIN
J. Silvo - J.s.S - FIN

#75 (GT2)

P. Resman - Primoz - SLO
T. Kuhanen - Toni Kuhanen - FIN

Last edited by Psilok, Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:16. Reason : Added Silvo to GT1 drivers.

Yeah, after all it was a good race. n1 also had a few bad moments but we will learn from our mistakes. Looking forward to the next race.

Thanks to all drivers for participating and of course congratulations to Team Inferno!

Last edited by Psilok, Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:04.