yup works fine. Just be sure to install the Logitech Gaming profiler to fully support the wheel. I had it on cd... but don't remember if it came with the DFP or my logitech pc gamepad.
Anyways, it should be availbale for download here: http://www.wingmanteam.com/lat ... ware/latest_soft_main.htm
Anyways, it should be availbale for download here: http://www.wingmanteam.com/lat ... ware/latest_soft_main.htm
it is...
infact I remember reading in a Car and Driver some time ago that they'll run 1/4 in the high 11's (some googling confirmed this - January 2005, Ferrari F430 1/4mi et of 11.7 at 123mph)
Oh, and hi Gabkicks.
point well taken. Actually, I've heard that warning before but it had been shuffled to the back of my mind until you refreshed me.
that'll push me up into the $250cdn range then for a 2.66ghz p4. Gotta wait for a sale, or check some online vendors.
that'll push me up into the $250cdn range then for a 2.66ghz p4. Gotta wait for a sale, or check some online vendors.
thanks for the bit of help you two
It looks like i can get a Celeron A 2.6ghz for about $130cdn. Anything quicker seems to have an unreasonably higher price - I'd find it hard to justify to myself spending double the money for an extra 200mhz.
I'm still iffy about the vid card...
I've heard on the 9xxx's that the 256mb cards aren't worth their salt because the memory is slower than what is on the 128mb cars. I've found a Sapphire 9600xt 128mb for $95cdn locally. I'm just not sure if i should jump on that deal or try to find a 9700, which are supposedly much faster.
I can't find a retailer for those...
I'm also looking at an x800. They require about 33% less power at full load than the 9800's do, so i think I'd be safe with something like that just so long as my mobo supports it... There's a sapphire x800gt on sale here for $140cdn.
edit: erm... scratch the x800 idea. Upon closer inspection the x800gt for sale is of the pci-e variety, not agp as I first thought.
It looks like i can get a Celeron A 2.6ghz for about $130cdn. Anything quicker seems to have an unreasonably higher price - I'd find it hard to justify to myself spending double the money for an extra 200mhz.
I'm still iffy about the vid card...
I've heard on the 9xxx's that the 256mb cards aren't worth their salt because the memory is slower than what is on the 128mb cars. I've found a Sapphire 9600xt 128mb for $95cdn locally. I'm just not sure if i should jump on that deal or try to find a 9700, which are supposedly much faster.
I can't find a retailer for those...
I'm also looking at an x800. They require about 33% less power at full load than the 9800's do, so i think I'd be safe with something like that just so long as my mobo supports it... There's a sapphire x800gt on sale here for $140cdn.
edit: erm... scratch the x800 idea. Upon closer inspection the x800gt for sale is of the pci-e variety, not agp as I first thought.
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great job. 
I'd say those look 50x better than any of the cheap plastic jobbies like I see in stores or have in my room.
But ya, as Tweaker asked, what kind of a dent did this put in your pocketbook?
I'd say those look 50x better than any of the cheap plastic jobbies like I see in stores or have in my room.But ya, as Tweaker asked, what kind of a dent did this put in your pocketbook?
The mobo is a little picky about processors. It does not support Prescott/Celeron D core processors nor does it support hyperthreading.
Anyways, this is a list of compatible cpu's for my machine: http://global.shuttle.com/Support/SupportList.asp?Item=SS51G
Guaging by some of the machines mentioned here: link, I'm guessing something like a 2.4 to a 2.6ghz cpu would be sufficient???
I'm not a huge PC gamer as you likely have guessed from my system specs (actually more of a console gamer) so I don't intend to go over the top with upgrades - I know the shuttle is dated, it just has to last me another year or so until I'm out of uni. LFS will be the only game I play on the machine. I just feel the need for a good driving sim with an active online community - because after a year with GT4 and fumbling around with xlink, it's is just not cutting it for me.
Anyways, this is a list of compatible cpu's for my machine: http://global.shuttle.com/Support/SupportList.asp?Item=SS51G
Guaging by some of the machines mentioned here: link, I'm guessing something like a 2.4 to a 2.6ghz cpu would be sufficient???
I'm not a huge PC gamer as you likely have guessed from my system specs (actually more of a console gamer) so I don't intend to go over the top with upgrades - I know the shuttle is dated, it just has to last me another year or so until I'm out of uni. LFS will be the only game I play on the machine. I just feel the need for a good driving sim with an active online community - because after a year with GT4 and fumbling around with xlink, it's is just not cutting it for me.
Shuttle SS51G - looking for upgrade suggestions
Hey
Haven't taken the plunge and purchased LFS yet, I've played the demo and love it - but my pc is not quite up to the task in some situations.
I have a Shuttle SS51G, so that presents me with some challenges. I purchased it about 4 yrs ago and apart from adding some additional ram and a larger hd, the juicy bits have remained largely unchanged since 2002.
Specs:
Shuttle SS51G (so whatever mobo came with that unit in '02 - I'm at work atm my memory is failing me)
cpu: P4 1.7ghz
ram: 768mb ddr (looking to upgrade to 1024 this summer)
vid card: ATI Radeon 9000
hd: Maxtor 200gb
psu: standard noisy shuttle 200W unit (or is it 220W.... either way, it's weak)
others...
Daytek 17" flatscreen monitor... nothin special
Wireless Microsoft keyboard and mouse
Logitech DFP (left over from GT4)
ATI TV Wonder Pro
I'd like to hear from people with similar setups, or other shuttle users, suggestions about what definitely has to go to be able to field a full grid of cars and maintain reasonable fps with good detail, and what is sufficient. Naturally, I expect far more items to fall in the former category, and likely only the hd and dfp to fall in the latter.
I know the vid card should definitely be updated. However, the PSU severely limits my options - I have no clue where to find anything past 250W for my shuttle [...maybe I should look into an external PSU???]. Because of this limitation, I don't think I can go to anything beyond a Radeon 9600xt... I've heard the 9800's are equivalent to a death sentence for these PSU's. But again, I'd like to hear opinions and learn from others' past experiences.
I'm in no real rush to get the upgrades done as my compy will not have net access until next fall when I move back into my dorm room, so I likely will not be purchasing LFS until then. I'm just wanting to check my options atm.
Haven't taken the plunge and purchased LFS yet, I've played the demo and love it - but my pc is not quite up to the task in some situations.
I have a Shuttle SS51G, so that presents me with some challenges. I purchased it about 4 yrs ago and apart from adding some additional ram and a larger hd, the juicy bits have remained largely unchanged since 2002.
Specs:
Shuttle SS51G (so whatever mobo came with that unit in '02 - I'm at work atm my memory is failing me)
cpu: P4 1.7ghz
ram: 768mb ddr (looking to upgrade to 1024 this summer)
vid card: ATI Radeon 9000
hd: Maxtor 200gb
psu: standard noisy shuttle 200W unit (or is it 220W.... either way, it's weak)
others...
Daytek 17" flatscreen monitor... nothin special
Wireless Microsoft keyboard and mouse
Logitech DFP (left over from GT4)
ATI TV Wonder Pro
I'd like to hear from people with similar setups, or other shuttle users, suggestions about what definitely has to go to be able to field a full grid of cars and maintain reasonable fps with good detail, and what is sufficient. Naturally, I expect far more items to fall in the former category, and likely only the hd and dfp to fall in the latter.
I know the vid card should definitely be updated. However, the PSU severely limits my options - I have no clue where to find anything past 250W for my shuttle [...maybe I should look into an external PSU???]. Because of this limitation, I don't think I can go to anything beyond a Radeon 9600xt... I've heard the 9800's are equivalent to a death sentence for these PSU's. But again, I'd like to hear opinions and learn from others' past experiences.
I'm in no real rush to get the upgrades done as my compy will not have net access until next fall when I move back into my dorm room, so I likely will not be purchasing LFS until then. I'm just wanting to check my options atm.
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