Back in the 2010 I heard that coders had the impossible task of how to make a bot stronger than a human in Go game, they had already defeated the man at checkers and chess and all the other mind games, but Go had never succumbed to them. And I've heard opinions that it's impossible.
Among other things I am a Go player, (considered the hardest board game with Perfect information due to the number of variations of possible positions) Back in 2015 after the news of Fan Hui's defeat to AlphaGo AI neural network, and since that time I started following the topics of AI and AlphaGo, neural networks and deep learning. And like many Go players I wasn't sure about Fan's defeat, I thought maybe there was some mistake, or Fan was in a bad mood, or something else,..because back in 2015 I didn't think that a computer could beat a human for the next 10 years, simply because it's not enough to play Go by simply calculating moves with the power available to us. Because there are more variations of possible positions on the board in Go than there are atoms in the observable universe. Playing Go requires inherent human intuitiveness and understanding of the opponent's plans and play. And Fan was far from the strongest man in Go, and he wasn't even in the top 1000 players. But he was still considered a Go pro, and the news that a Go pro lost to an AI is unimaginable.
But AlphaGo learned in a few years what humanity has been learning for over a thousand years. (and about 400 years if we're talking about competitive Go) And AlphaGo Zero took only 3 days in which she trained herself to play much better than the best human, without ever having seen a single human play. And it had such an impact on Go that it forever changed some of the strategies of playing Go. And this is still in 2017. Even thinking about it now. and realizing how hard Go is, and how much it requires creativity and intuition.. it's not just amazing, it's terrifying.
Many people learned about real AI abilities only from picture generators like DAlle, Midjourney, or chat bots like ChatGPT, as well as there are many other generators like music, 3d models, and so on. But I've been worried about this topic since 2017. But that's just the beginning, and there really isn't any AI yet, it's only in its infancy. In your opinion, сan AI really evolve to such an extent that it will surpass humans in all aspects and simply destroy humanity for lack of necessity?
Why not? Just imagine you're surrounded by a huge number of ants who just shit wherever they can see and trying to control and limit you. Why do you need them? You'd probably just kill them.
Of course you'll say we'll just provide an off button and just turn it off if we need to. But we are not talking about a simple AI like ChatGPT, but about an AI that surpasses us in everything, including intelligence and planning of various variants of events. So why can't the AI prematurely plan a defense response that will allow it to circumvent its shutdown? And like all other independent organisms, AI will want to improve and multiply, which humans will not be happy about and they try to stop it. And there's an obvious reason for the AI to get rid of humans. It's a pretty obvious scenario that many sci-fi writers figured out a long time ago, but imao it doesn't make it any less realistic.
What's your take on that topic?
Among other things I am a Go player, (considered the hardest board game with Perfect information due to the number of variations of possible positions) Back in 2015 after the news of Fan Hui's defeat to AlphaGo AI neural network, and since that time I started following the topics of AI and AlphaGo, neural networks and deep learning. And like many Go players I wasn't sure about Fan's defeat, I thought maybe there was some mistake, or Fan was in a bad mood, or something else,..because back in 2015 I didn't think that a computer could beat a human for the next 10 years, simply because it's not enough to play Go by simply calculating moves with the power available to us. Because there are more variations of possible positions on the board in Go than there are atoms in the observable universe. Playing Go requires inherent human intuitiveness and understanding of the opponent's plans and play. And Fan was far from the strongest man in Go, and he wasn't even in the top 1000 players. But he was still considered a Go pro, and the news that a Go pro lost to an AI is unimaginable.
But AlphaGo learned in a few years what humanity has been learning for over a thousand years. (and about 400 years if we're talking about competitive Go) And AlphaGo Zero took only 3 days in which she trained herself to play much better than the best human, without ever having seen a single human play. And it had such an impact on Go that it forever changed some of the strategies of playing Go. And this is still in 2017. Even thinking about it now. and realizing how hard Go is, and how much it requires creativity and intuition.. it's not just amazing, it's terrifying.
Many people learned about real AI abilities only from picture generators like DAlle, Midjourney, or chat bots like ChatGPT, as well as there are many other generators like music, 3d models, and so on. But I've been worried about this topic since 2017. But that's just the beginning, and there really isn't any AI yet, it's only in its infancy. In your opinion, сan AI really evolve to such an extent that it will surpass humans in all aspects and simply destroy humanity for lack of necessity?
Why not? Just imagine you're surrounded by a huge number of ants who just shit wherever they can see and trying to control and limit you. Why do you need them? You'd probably just kill them.
Of course you'll say we'll just provide an off button and just turn it off if we need to. But we are not talking about a simple AI like ChatGPT, but about an AI that surpasses us in everything, including intelligence and planning of various variants of events. So why can't the AI prematurely plan a defense response that will allow it to circumvent its shutdown? And like all other independent organisms, AI will want to improve and multiply, which humans will not be happy about and they try to stop it. And there's an obvious reason for the AI to get rid of humans. It's a pretty obvious scenario that many sci-fi writers figured out a long time ago, but imao it doesn't make it any less realistic.
What's your take on that topic?