It must be time to enforce strick pit entry/exit rules in that when you enter or leave the pits you are NOT allowed to cross the yellow lines, you should follow the feeder lane until you are on the track.

A black flag penalty should be given when you cross the lines.

Quote from Woz :

It must be time to enforce strick pit entry/exit rules in that when you enter or leave the pits you are NOT allowed to cross the yellow lines, you should follow the feeder lane until you are on the track.

A black flag penalty should be given when you cross the lines.

I agree with this, is something simple that it happens unnoticed, but this would make a greater realism to lfs.

by the way. sorry for the english

Pit entry, no. Pit exitry, option/maybe.

Don't make it an option, just mandate it.

+999999999999999999

pit entry: no
pit exit: definitely

I would like to see this too. I've been on several online races, taking a break watching in spectator only to see some guy come out of the pits and cross the yellow line, go through the cones so they can get on track "faster". There should be a penalty for this. Right now people are doing it because there is nothing to stop them, and people don't notice it.

Maybe as an option but certainly I'd like to see a new attitude amongst racers that common sense should be used when exiting the pits. Best example is the SO Classic pit exit, there's no point in keeping within the line because it makes you so off line for the first corner and you can see clearly whether it's safe to merge earlier.

Quote from NotAnIllusion :

Pit entry, no. Pit exitry, option/maybe.

Quote from joen :

pit entry: no pit exit: definitely

Hmmm. So you are both happy for the rules to apply on exit yet not on entry? Are there any other racing rules you think should be ignored?

I am sure that IRL if there are pit entry marks in effect they have to be followed or you get a penalty otherwise the track owners would not put them on the track and maintain them in the first place.

Quote from ajp71 :

Maybe as an option but certainly I'd like to see a new attitude amongst racers that common sense should be used when exiting the pits. Best example is the SO Classic pit exit, there's no point in keeping within the line because it makes you so off line for the first corner and you can see clearly whether it's safe to merge earlier.

IRL racing rules are simple in that you even TOUCH the line and you are black flagged. Seen it happen in F1 where someone just touched the line and got a stop go.

Yep it might leave you off line for the first corner BUT that is actually the whole point as it makes you exit the pits in a controlled manner and off the racing line.

There is NO excuse to cross the line and EVERYONE has the same rule so there is no advantage to anyone. If there is an issue it means the pit lines are wrong not the rule.

^ this

+999999999999999999 also

If this is going to be a racing simulator it needs to follow what happens in the real world, to a certain extent of course. IMHO this goes with a pit lane speed limit and false starts.

+1
I hate noobs on BL that exit pits like crazy =/

automatic penalties are just bad in most cases. just think about a crashed car standing on the pit exit; you couldn't leave the pits without penalty...

+1. On exit only and only for cars leaving the pits because otherwise any car not intending to pit would be penalised for touching the line as they drive around the track. I've never seen a car penalised for touching the entry lines IRL and I'm not sure if there is an enforceable rule there, it doesn't seem neccessary.

On exit only the line closest to the racing line needs to be active. It is called the blend line.

Quote from Woz :

Hmmm. So you are both happy for the rules to apply on exit yet not on entry? Are there any other racing rules you think should be ignored?

I am sure that IRL if there are pit entry marks in effect they have to be followed or you get a penalty otherwise the track owners would not put them on the track and maintain them in the first place.

have you ever watched an F1 race? the white lines on pit entry are just completely ignored.

I've never ever seen rules enforced on a driver for crossing the pitlane entry line. Would be stupid to penalise someone for that... the reason there are lines on the exit is to blend the drivers safely back into the pack.

One thing that would have to be taken into consideration is whether someone has parked there car or is cruising slowly down pitlane, in both cases it would be unfair to punish the other driver...

@Woz: Not ignoring any rules, as you have been explained above. +10 to Gunn's much elaborated version.

Quote from Woz :

IRL racing rules are simple in that you even TOUCH the line and you are black flagged. Seen it happen in F1 where someone just touched the line and got a stop go.

Yep it might leave you off line for the first corner BUT that is actually the whole point as it makes you exit the pits in a controlled manner and off the racing line.

There is NO excuse to cross the line and EVERYONE has the same rule so there is no advantage to anyone. If there is an issue it means the pit lines are wrong not the rule.

I've never seen entry markings being enforced, neither am I aware of any feeling they should be followed, they're a guide nothing more. F1 is different to all other motorsports where the exits aren't so strictly governed.

I just made an autocross layout for blackwood that put cones on the lines so you couldn't cross them.

Looks like I was wrong on entry so drop that one

Quote from Gunn :

+1. On exit only and only for cars leaving the pits because otherwise any car not intending to pit would be penalised for touching the line as they drive around the track. I've never seen a car penalised for touching the entry lines IRL and I'm not sure if there is an enforceable rule there, it doesn't seem neccessary.

On exit only the line closest to the racing line needs to be active. It is called the blend line.

Here is an interesting one. If you are on track are you allowed to cross over the pit exit line to the "pit" side of teh exit line. The line is there to protect people on track from people leaving the pits but the reverse is also true in that the last thing you want leaving the pits is a car a full pace collect you from behind.

If a racer is allowed to cross the line to the pit exit side while on track that has just as much safety issues.

I tried looking up some pit rules but hard to find these details.

I'd like to see different rule options. So you maybe racing FOX but the server is running F1 rule set. So there are preset rules to follow. In the Esc menu screen you can get the "Rules" button that gives the run down of them.

Just find it annoying and frustrating trying to race realistically only to have some one ignore pit excite turn out and you have to practically dive off the track not to hit them.

Would also like to see some sort of penalty for blocking. In F1 you get one blocking move. I was racing in Blackwood, was clearly faster then the guy in front of me by 20-30 mph. Yet every time I tried to make a clean pass the driver would turn sharply in front of me, causing me to slam on the breaks. Doing it once Ok, thats racing. But doing it 3 or 4 times in a row when the person behind you is clearly faster, not even fighting for the lead. (Was in about 6th at the time) that is just being malicious.

One thing I'd really like to see and I could be a minority on this one. A Rule that after the lead cars finish the race they have to do a cool down lap then pit before they are declared the winner. I lost track of how many times I might be a lap down or a few places behind the lead two cars, only to have it when there race is finished they slam on the brakes and stop in the middle of the track, or are doing dough nuts. When not everyone has finished the race yet. I've crashed and spun off because of this. A few times lost my position because of this. I lost 3rd once because 1st and 2nd were stopped on the track because there race was over, when I was still trying to hold third. :/

Quote from Woz :

Here is an interesting one. If you are on track are you allowed to cross over the pit exit line to the "pit" side of teh exit line.

Yes.