Quote from filur :

Premiere is actually very straightforward and annoyingly user-friendly, i've tried vegas very briefly and it really doesn't match up to premiere.

I don't know but Vegas' user interface just felt much easier from the first second. Of course it isn't as advanced as Premiere but it probably has millions of things I will never know how to use.

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Question is why you're deinterlacing something that's not interlaced?

Err... because I wasn't exactly sure what it even means. I Google'd, so I don't have to care about it as long as I don't edit DV cam material?

Quote from deggis :

I don't have to care about it as long as I don't edit DV cam material?

As long as you're not editing interlaced source material, since your screen is progressive you'll know when you have something interlaced, it looks horrible.

ok

One more question... what's the most properiate way to save the final movie to get the best possible quality? First render it as uncompressed AVI and after that compress it? Or render & compress at the same time? Of course the first one, at least it sounds more logical?

Quote from deggis :

One more question... what's the most properiate way to save the final movie to get the best possible quality? First render it as uncompressed AVI and after that compress it? Or render & compress at the same time? Of course the first one, at least it sounds more logical?

There's really no difference at all, i usually render from premiere to uncompressed because it's so much faster, and recompress in virtualdub, that way i can render 20 times and be unhappy - re-render, and finally have a finished compressed video in the same time it would take premiere to compress while rendering.

Yeah it doesnt matter speaking of quality. But we do know that if you want to use DivX, it's best to save as uncompressed with premiere and use vDub to compress to DivX.
For some reason Premiere doesnt dig DivX, it often looks terrible in Prem. and proper with vDub with the same settings.

Hi deggis (and all you others of course)!

I render and compress it in Vegas with XviD codecs. My latest movie there was 344 mb. Thats quite much i think for 3:44 (had the quality on max in XviD).. So, I want to recommend a great (great!) program thats makes the movie smaller.

It's called Ashampoo Ashampoo Movie Shrink & Burn. In the program u choose to make movie files for your pc and choose avi (don't know exactly wat it says on english.. Actually, i don't know if can be on english. But I can take screens if you wont find the english version).

After I used the program my movie was only 100 mb (you choose what filesize should be and it says the quality. Mine was 99% when I tested 100..)

Great program imo!

(Didn't see anything about this (or any other) in this thread.
And my english is not great but I think you understand )

http://www.download.com/Ashamp ... 10326175.html?tag=lst-0-7

/Bosse

Quote from (SaM) :

Yeah it doesnt matter speaking of quality. But we do know that if you want to use DivX, it's best to save as uncompressed with premiere and use vDub to compress to DivX.
For some reason Premiere doesnt dig DivX, it often looks terrible in Prem. and proper with vDub with the same settings.

I wasn't using Premiere but good to know.

Bosse: are you sure you just didn't compress it with lower settings? That can be done in any program from the Xvid's compression settings.

Quote from deggis :

Bosse: are you sure you just didn't compress it with lower settings? That can be done in any program from the Xvid's compression settings.

Hmm... Havn't check so close but hey, this works for me!

Is Fraps free or do you have to pay because i'm thinking of making a movie.

There is a demo version but it stamps the fraps logo onto every frame and doesn't have full functionality...or at least I think it doesn't it's been ages since I used it...


http://www.fraps.com/

I try thx

I have a question ...

I used to make some LFS movies but was always facing the same issue with Premiere.
I use Premiere 6.5 and I imported raw avi 640*480 clips from Fraps.
Edition was a nightmare. Premiere was very slow and I had a lot of crashes because of memory issues (I have Win XP and 1 Go ram ). But in raw format you have to handle clips that sometimes weight 1 Go !!!
I tried with Divx compressed clips and it was not that better.
Is this a Premiere 6.5 issue that has been fixed in the new Premiere pro ?
I finally found this solution. I converted all my clips to DV avi (with virtual dub and the Panasonic Codec). Of course I had to change resolution from 640*480 to 720*576 (We use Pal here) ...
After that done, I had no problem at all to edit in Premiere. It went smooth as if I edited clips from my camcorder. Rendering to DV is very fast too.
Now if I want to share the movie I only have to reconvert (and deinterlace) to Divx in virtual dub.

yesss, i strongly recommend acquiring premiere pro or pro 1.5. its a totally different way of working, plus, 6.5 is very old anyway.

and what you said about memory.. 1 Go (GB) should be enough, even when using raw files. i have 1Go too and i hardly notice any difference in performance with raw or compressed clips.

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yesss, i strongly recommend acquiring premiere pro or pro 1.5. its a totally different way of working, plus, 6.5 is very old anyway.

Premiere 6.5 may be old but I own a licence and it's just fine for editing my DV's. Paying 1000 Euros just for the few more features ( I mostly won't need ) illepall .
I never tested the Premiere "elements" maybe this could be the way to upgrade my old software.
Do you know the limitations between "elements" and the pro version ?

Quote from Smax :

There is a demo version but it stamps the fraps logo onto every frame and doesn't have full functionality...or at least I think it doesn't it's been ages since I used it...


http://www.fraps.com/

Is this the demo version
http://www.fraps.com/download.php

And do I have to pay nothing for it.

Quote from nutty boy :

Is this the demo version
http://www.fraps.com/download.php

And do I have to pay nothing for it.

Yes, the demo and full version I believe is the same thing (like LFS). You don't have to pay nothing for it, you can pay if you want. I think for the demo, a few features are disabled, you can only record max 30 second clips, and you get www.fraps.com watermarked at the top of your movies. It is not time limited as far as I have seen.

Premiere elements is the "light" version just like the relationship between photoshop and photoshop elements.

Wha tactually means I don't know unfortunately since I'm using Premiere Pro 1.5.

I do know however that Premiere Pro 2.0 which is the latest version doesn't offer full backwards compatibility for premiere project files, so if you're half way through a piece, don't switch versions.

If not then I'd say look at upgrading the software, since I can run fraps @ 25fps full screen with sound, which gives me a huge file but that's no problem, I can then edit the files in Premeire also without a problem. I can even layer them and render more than one copy of the fraps file at once as long as I don't have anything better to do for a while, or want to do anything else at the same time....

I don't have a super computer either :-AMD 3400 64bit, 1gb RAM, 200gb SATA hdd.

I've downloaded Fraps but everytime I record LFS crashes.

If it's LFS and not FRAPS that's falling over then I'd say you have a software conflict somewhere and I'm not enough of a windoze geek to know the answer I'm afraid.

I can only suggest the usual like make sure your video card drivers are up to date etc etc...

If windows creates an error log then I suggest you post it here.

Quote from nutty boy :

I've downloaded Fraps but everytime I record LFS crashes.

If you've got one of kegetys d3d8.dll's in your lfs directory, try renaming it before you record.

Where in my directory would it be
And what's happening Smax is that I run Lfs with Fraps running and as soon as i take a screenshot or start to record, LFS says it has encountered an error and needs to close.

Try starting LFS first and pressing Alt+Tab to stick it down on the task bar then startign Fraps...just clutching at straws, but maybe it might make a difference.

As where would the dll be? must admit I've no idea... try windows search...

I searched and it's bring up a wordpad file saying I haven't got the latest DirectX version and 2 about saying what to do if there's a missing d3d8.dll thing. It also brang up d3d8.dll in C:\WINDOWS\system32.

Quote from nutty boy :

I searched and it's bring up a wordpad file saying I haven't got the latest DirectX version and 2 about saying what to do if there's a missing d3d8.dll thing. It also brang up d3d8.dll in C:\WINDOWS\system32.

I meant one of kegetys mods such as ghostcar / motion blur, the d3d8.dll would be in the same directory as LFS.exe.