I'm well aware of Israel's effect on US politics today (Israel didn't exist during Hitler's day). I was referring to Hitler's specific delusions and the effect they ended up having on world politics. Ironically, Hitler's delusions about Jews and the actions they led to were directly responsible for the creation of the state of Israel within the borders of another nation in 1947.

There is at present a taboo against criticising Israel for anything it does, be it building its apartheid wall in violation of World Court rulings, destroying Lebanon in July last year, continuing human rights violations against the indigenous Palestinians, acting against numerous UN resolutions (Israel and the US have either vetoed or ignored more UN resolutions than Iraq, N Korea, Iran and the rest of the world combined) and many more breaches of law and decency. Anyone who dares criticise Israel (as they would any other rogue state which ignores International Law and opinion) gets labelled an anti-Semite, neo-Nazi or, if they are themselves Jewish like Uri Avnery, Howard Zinn, Norman Solomon, Noam Chomsky among others, self-hating Jews. It not only happens in the US but also here, the UK, practically anywhere. Honest, open discussion about Israel simply isn't permitted to happen in the mainstream almost everywhere in the world. I'm not sure if it qualifies as a conspiracy but it sure is frustrating & disturbing, just like the numerous quotes over the years by Israeli politicians which mention cultural superiority and the right to basically act as they please and screw the rest of us, especially their neighbours.

But that's completely OT ...

Hankstar, are there Jews on your lawn again?

Just kidding! I agree it is a preposterous situation.

hank imagine what its like to have opinions about israels actions if youre german

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hank imagine what its like to have opinions about israels actions if youre german

:ices_rofl

I think that with regards to Israel it's important to differentiate between Israeli, Jewish etc and Zionists. You will find that most of the Jewish critics are in fact criticising Zionists.

A surprisingly large number of the current US administration are in fact Zionists, being Jewish is not a requirement to be a Zionist.

Israel was actually created with the Balfour Declaration in 1917

"The British government favors 'the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of that object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine.
Arthur J. Balfour, November 2, 1917"

However it was established earlier in the late 1800's on land brought by one of the Rothschilds ( I forget which one )

What is very interesting is that when you research the funding of the National Socialist party in Germany from 1920 on you find the names Rothschild and Bush ( Prescott, Georgies granpappy ) Prescott was in fact charged by the US Senate for collaborating, but nothing seemed to come of it.

Makes you wonder a little bit why committed Zionists wanted to fund Hitler into power.

( Another interesting, though unsupported theory was that Hitler was in fact an illegitimate Rothschild, his mother was a maid in one of their houses. There's more on the web on this if you want to do further research. )

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hank imagine what its like to have opinions about israels actions if youre german

Mein gott! Good point It's bad enough simply being a gentile. I do have German ancestry though ...

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But WW2 certainly wasn't the first time Jews or Zionists (whatever you want to call them) were claiming persecution and attempting to form their own state.

Yeah, those damn Jews... making up the holocaust...

So, all of this is made up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz-Birkenau
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che%C5%82mno_extermination_camp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belzec
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majdanek
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobib%C3%B3r
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treblinka_extermination_camp

..There's more too, those are just the ones in poland!

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I don't want to veer too far off topic here,

Veer off topic?! Thats more like some snap oversteer you've got there, mate....

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Yeah, those damn Jews... making up the holocaust...

That is history, and doesn't have to be forgotten, and because of that, Israel should meditate about what they are doing to Palestine.