while i agree that mid race joining is bad, im not too sure about the venting your anger part by wrecking people. You're just breeding more wreckers, to be honest.
while i agree that mid race joining is bad, im not too sure about the venting your anger part by wrecking people. You're just breeding more wreckers, to be honest.
as i said, i hardly ever do it. comes rarely but when it does im hard to resist. i am not a person who gets mad very easily, but some things do make me mad.
As much as it bugs me on my flying laps while in a good race position, I will be on the brakes if a backmarker pulls infront of me, treat it like any other passing move, keep it clean, try not to lose too much time, and I accept that fast lap was lost due to being in a race with other people. Thats just racing. Sometimes I get stuck behind someone, and the guy behind me will come flying up the track and pass us both and i'll lose a position. Thats racing. It sucks but thats how it is. I didn't pass the backmarker as well as he did. How you race backmarkers has always been a big part of motor racing. I often have a "lol" or a "
" with the backmarker. Have some fun, laugh at them a bit hehe, give a little advice, maybe send a setup.
Thats the only way you will get peeps to be generous with the blue flag situation. Both the passing driver and the back marker have to work together.
" with the backmarker. Have some fun, laugh at them a bit hehe, give a little advice, maybe send a setup.Thats the only way you will get peeps to be generous with the blue flag situation. Both the passing driver and the back marker have to work together.
Thats exactly the attitude to have!
+1In real racing, driving in and managing lapped traffic is a skill, and can be used to gain positions. Learning how to set up an opponent to where he will be slowed down by a lapped car is valuable in real racing, and a great skill to have.
Aye, richy is a class-A driver
I've only raced against him one time that I can remember, but it was a good and honest race 
I once played a flying sim online, world war 2 fighters, aces high it was called. I sucked in that too, a bit like I do with live for speed. But you learn the environment over time through trial and error and some good old hard work by trying to never make the same mistake twice.
One skill I picked up was situational awareness, SA for short, if you lost SA in the air you would be a dead man. Its a valuable skill in man and machine vs man and machine. (See the connection in the reference now).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situational_awareness
I've posted this before, but, I like to bring it up a lot, because I really think it helps.
Understanding whats going on around you by taking in as much information and using it to your advantage. Knowing where cars are around yours, knowing what speeds they are doing, predicting what will happen in the road ahead of you or hundreds of yards up ahead.
I look around a lot, I try and judge speeds of those next to me and I make sure I wont run into their path by braking more than I usually need to. Lots of things. I guess its just concentration and taking care. Add to that lessons of previous mistakes throw it all in the mix and every split second your SA is continiously changing at all times.
Sometimes at starts of races I get overloaded withinformation and get twitchy, my SA drops, this is when things are at their most dangerous. Similar to when you get in a big dogfight, too much information to understand at that moment and before you know it a guy is on your tail making your plane look like swiss cheese.
So yeah, my motto tends to be "dont lose SA!".
I love this quote. ^^
One skill I picked up was situational awareness, SA for short, if you lost SA in the air you would be a dead man. Its a valuable skill in man and machine vs man and machine. (See the connection in the reference now).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situational_awareness
I've posted this before, but, I like to bring it up a lot, because I really think it helps.
Understanding whats going on around you by taking in as much information and using it to your advantage. Knowing where cars are around yours, knowing what speeds they are doing, predicting what will happen in the road ahead of you or hundreds of yards up ahead.
I look around a lot, I try and judge speeds of those next to me and I make sure I wont run into their path by braking more than I usually need to. Lots of things. I guess its just concentration and taking care. Add to that lessons of previous mistakes throw it all in the mix and every split second your SA is continiously changing at all times.
Sometimes at starts of races I get overloaded withinformation and get twitchy, my SA drops, this is when things are at their most dangerous. Similar to when you get in a big dogfight, too much information to understand at that moment and before you know it a guy is on your tail making your plane look like swiss cheese.
So yeah, my motto tends to be "dont lose SA!".
I love this quote. ^^
this topic looks as stupid as you do, when you try to say that my friend is stupid because he says what he might do... to peeps who dont care about other people at all...
midrace joiner who dont get the blueflag is only thing what looks stupid...
jeezz they sometimes go in the next turn with 50km/h when 15 racers are coming in like 150km/h+ and this makes peeps really mad sometimes .
AND BTW : there are people out there who really know this blueflag and they honor it for real . or if they are accidently on they way they apology , its not that hard . if everybody try to get this, there is no need to that shit spamming .
Sometimes it just looks like people are too proud/****s to honor the blueflag ...
Well I've got to say in almost a year of playing LFS I have NEVER used a blug flag message. It is part of racing so as Tracey from BB would say "deal with it" 
My "There is already a BLUE FLAG message you idiot..." bind followed by a "=]" seems to raise a smile...
(Kaw)
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If you are faster than he is, there should be no problem passing him
If he blocks passes, then it should be easy to fake one and pass with ease on the next corner.I have "BLUE FLAG IT'S ON HIS SCREEN STOP SPAMMING", which I need to try out.
Hmm.. I haven't binded a blue flag message. But sometimes, very rarely I'm on a really fast pb lap and a backmarkers appears (no that's not rare at all, but the next part of the sentence is), I quickly type something like "pleeeeaase, blue flag". With a smile behind it or so, and then I hope the backmarkers will let me through.
To be honest, how can you manage to get 1 lap behind in a 5-10 lap race anyway? Sorry but then you're just a very bad driver.
To be honest, how can you manage to get 1 lap behind in a 5-10 lap race anyway? Sorry but then you're just a very bad driver.
join mid-race?
We'll, there are always people who manage to get a lap behind even when they didn't join mid race.
Yeah, probably has nothing to do with getting knocked into the sandpit by someone else in T1, getting wrecked by somone else in general to the point of needed to telepit, then when you rejoin your back on lap 1.
Oh, that and new people pick the game up every day. I doubt you were running with the leaders in your first 50 races...
Sorry, I don't think you meant to...but your post sounded very, very elitist...
Never used a blue flag message, never will, it's pointless as the Driver knows It already.
I have been on the receiving end of blue flag messages in the past and they pissed me of big time, I think they can produce the opposite of the desired effect.
Saying that I do think there is a problem with people pitting out mid race and not understanding there NOT IN THE RACE and therefore should not impede or slow down the people who are in the race , all I do know is screaming BLUE FLAG at them is counterproductive.
I have been on the receiving end of blue flag messages in the past and they pissed me of big time, I think they can produce the opposite of the desired effect.
Saying that I do think there is a problem with people pitting out mid race and not understanding there NOT IN THE RACE and therefore should not impede or slow down the people who are in the race , all I do know is screaming BLUE FLAG at them is counterproductive.
i usually flash my lights at them to let them know that i would have no problem with them letting me pass. i tend to leave me cursing for ts
Ever think that the racer you are lapping is sitting in front of you waiting for you to make a proper passing maneuver so he can slow down and allow you to easily pass like you are suppose to? You are not suppose to expect someone to dive off your racing line because you are coming up behind. If you don't make a move when blue flagging me, then I assume you aren't ready to pass me by. Make the move, and I'll lift to allow you an easy pass.
When moving offline when being blue flagged by someone who would properly pass you, you would be moving directly into the faster car passing. If you hit me when blue flagging me, then I certainly don't "learn a lesson or two". The only thing I learn is that you are an idiot and don't know how to race.
Yes, I would move off the line in some situations. First, move off the line taking the outside of a corner to allow the other to pass on the inside, or move off line on a straight if you have plenty of distance to allow the other driver to see your intentions.
Now did I use the word "stupid" or anything of the sort in my last post at all? Please take time to read it over again and tell me if I did.
Midrace joiner who dosen't get a blue flag? The only time a midrace joiner dosen't get a blue flag is when they are smart enough to find a big gap in the field to join into. I said midrace joiners don't have the right to actually race against the rest of the field and should move over and slow down safely when a car comes up.
Who are you talking about? Backmarkers or mid-race joiners? A backmarker that is going that slow compared to everyone else shouldn't be blocking the track, if he/she is making competieve laptimes, sure, he/she can race the leader.
All you did was entirely throw my post out of context. You are assuming that I have no idea what a blue flag is. Should I tell you again? A blue flag is a signal shown by a race marshall that the race leader is beginning to catch up to you, and should be wary. The backmarker still has the right to race the leader, but not if he/she is driving too far off the pace.
What the hell are you going on about? I and many others pay attention to blue flags. Of course there is that occasional mistake, and I get into a tangle with another driver, but I swiftly apologize. Please stop flaming and trolling this thread.
that's not exactly right. A blue flag informs a driver that a faster car is approaching and that the driver should move aside to allow one or more faster cars to pass. it has nothing to do position in the race.
But speaking in terms of LFS, he is completely correct.
there is the word stupid . between the words look and ,and .
Thats why I answered :
"midrace joiner who dont get the blueflag is only thing what looks stupid..."
info : get the blueflag = dont understand blueflag
info part 2 : there are people who are NOT smart to find that nice gap, they just ram in, bye bye good race .
info : there I was still talking about midrace joiners .
INFO : and did I write somewhere that you dont understand blueflag?
no I did not.
INFO part 2 : that was just a message to all peeps ,
that there is nice peeps out there .
omg now faster peeps haves to fake pass, when someone dont understand what have to do when blueflag appears ...
How many F1 drivers do fake pass so to pass in next corner? answer there is no suchs idiots on the track same time so they dont need to .
Dont you understand that there is dudes always again and again race after race blocking lead lappers. Thats why it keeps peoples fingers on F1 = blueflag respect leadlappers . after few that shit it changes to vote kick.
Blueflag = Don't fight the lapper for position. Maintain driving line and remain predictable. Lapper must use reasonable passing technique to overtake slower car. PERIOD.
Blueflag DOES NOT mean "hit the grass f'ing noob!" simply because you race twice as much as the guy in front of you and you just happen to have a better setup (you got from someone else) does not give you ownership of the server.
If nightly pick up races don't get more friendly, the population of drivers will continue to dwindle and eventually you will have no one to race.
Help others. Especially those that are slower as they are obviously newer or you will one day only be left with semi-fond memories of a great online racing community instead of belonging to one.
Save the serious shite for life and Leage Events.
My 2 cents.
C.
Blueflag DOES NOT mean "hit the grass f'ing noob!" simply because you race twice as much as the guy in front of you and you just happen to have a better setup (you got from someone else) does not give you ownership of the server.
If nightly pick up races don't get more friendly, the population of drivers will continue to dwindle and eventually you will have no one to race.
Help others. Especially those that are slower as they are obviously newer or you will one day only be left with semi-fond memories of a great online racing community instead of belonging to one.
Save the serious shite for life and Leage Events.
My 2 cents.
C.
My first 50 races were probably offline.
Yes I think we all get abit too serious at times
The key things to do and remeber if you recieve a blue flag is maintain driving line and remain predictable, don't fight the other driver for position.
i.e. keep a cool head don't panic.
If the lapper achieves a little overlap then slow a little more than normal for the corner allowing him to take the racing line.
If he hasn't achieved overlap (still approaching) then don't slow at all, take your normal racing line through the corner and hold a steady line once exiting corner, so the lapper can overtake cleanly on the straight. If you mess up mid corner (understeer or oversteer) so that you have gone wide on exit then make sure you recover cleanly giving room for the lapper to pass on the inside (the lapper most likely has taken a late appex to get better acceleration down the straight so should be able to go up the inside comfortabley).
It's good to practise different lines into corners so that you have the confidence to deal with any situation that arises.
The key things to remember if your the lapper is to use reasonable passing technique.
i.e. use a little caution
If you haven't achieved overlap going into a corner aim to perform the overtake on the next straight and position yourself accordingly.
If you have achieved overlap then take the racing line but take it a little more within the limits than normal so you can react to any unforseen incidents.
Thats how I would personally handle getting a blue flag or being the lapper. And from what I see this is what happens the majority of times.
Most incidents occur when one or the other party doesn't have full confidence in the car/track they are driving and as a consequence what they think and what they do is two different things
I welcome the iniatives of CTRA, Conedodgers, and others that are attempting to set up servers for various skill levels of drivers, as this will surely reduce this type of incident alot more going forward. The only draw back with these systems at the moment is you are limited to their car/track choices. Hopefuly as LFS becomes more popular and these systems are developed more, we will also have more choice
Again I state that I don't think it's one parties fault or the other, incidents are caused 99.9% of the time by the huge differences in skill level that is in the average pick up race. That in combination with LFS's currnet collision detection flaws is often the fatal mix.
To people who spam blue flag messages:
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