Good racing down the other end of the grid, they need to change the coverage so we actually see some of it.
Good racing down the other end of the grid, they need to change the coverage so we actually see some of it.
"Fantastic start by Hamilton!" the UK race spokesman (I refuse to acknowledge his as a commentator any more) screamed as Lewis slipped down the order.
I hope for Spa and rain.
Now watching WTCC. That should be better.
Highlights? that's gotta be a short show
2 hours full of replays of Hamilton limping to the pits.
I was especially amused to hear them all talking about what an awful start Alonso got. Looking at the replays, it seems like both McLarens had bad getaways, the only difference was that Hamilton only had one fast-starting car behind him.
Still, the result was nice
so typical, it's stuff like this which I can truly appreciate in Kimi.My favourite part of the show was Steve Ryder's interview with Hamilton:
If he really said that, kudos to him! Takes quite some balls to announce to the media that they suck...
Brilliant! That's gotta be the race highlight!
ALMS from Mosport is on... Great classic track.
ALMS from Mosport is on... Great classic track.
He might not have used exactly those words... It was pretty funny though - even Lewis Hamilton is sick of all the coverage of Lewis Hamilton.
Same thought I was left with after the race. We have 4 drivers that can do a very similar pace to each other, driving for teams that will allow them to fight, at a decent track and yet NOTHING happens.
I mean there has to be something majorly wrong when you know the P2 car is faster than the P1 car (at the end of his stints) and yet there is no sense of excitement whatsoever.
We need something that brings more dynamic changes into races. The tyres we had in 2005 that had to last a full race worked quite well in this regard. The hard/soft concept they are using now could also work if Bridgestone would engineer a bigger performance difference into the two tyre compounds.
Anyway, good race for the championship points, Alonso again showed that it's not pace he's lacking against Hamilton so I think the title is still very, very open.
What you mean? Before or after passing the BMW's?
On fourth position Alonso was in fact 0.3s quicker per lap than Hamilton at first, after a while Hamilton and Alonso were on the same pace. As everybody saw his first stint was spoiled by BMW's aggressive tactics.
Kimi said something we already know: overtake with these cars is a hard task. Alonso suffered that on Indianapolis and a couple of times this year following Heifield.
Limiting rpm to 19k took away reability problems, reducing from 100kmh to 80kmh on the pit lane stops people trying new things, for instance 3 stops when everybody goes to 2, etc. I think the one set of tyres was a stupid idea, being removed after one year confirms my opinion.
and in the drivers championship it shows.
1-2 Mclaren
3-4 Ferrari
5-6.BMW
7-8. Renault
9-10. Williams
11-12. Red bull
13-14 Toyota
Seems very weird that a season can be this way.
Its good for the race at the top, but for the midfield its just plain boring!
1-2 Mclaren
3-4 Ferrari
5-6.BMW
7-8. Renault
9-10. Williams
11-12. Red bull
13-14 Toyota
Seems very weird that a season can be this way.
Its good for the race at the top, but for the midfield its just plain boring!
For once I can agree that it was a boring race, well, apart Hamilton's tyre incident.
FIA has formed some sort of overtaking committee, I wonder what those fairly intelligent apes can come up with now? There are few simple things that could be done. Idiotic rules that have no purpose or are plain stupid should be removed, like using both compounds in the race, what is the point with that? Other that force teams making compromises with tactics and setting up the car. The qualification is also pretty much idiotic in the current state, it should be run with light cars and sitting on the pits wouldn't be allowed to make sure they run on the track, the fastest car should have the pole. For making overtaking possible there should be more mechanical grip, give them real slicks for example, maybe even fatter ones and reduce wing size, possibly ban extra bits sticking out of the car and remove TC to make small mistakes possible. I can't see why it's so hard to come up with proper changes for FIA, they've probably ran out of bananas again.
FIA has formed some sort of overtaking committee, I wonder what those fairly intelligent apes can come up with now? There are few simple things that could be done. Idiotic rules that have no purpose or are plain stupid should be removed, like using both compounds in the race, what is the point with that? Other that force teams making compromises with tactics and setting up the car. The qualification is also pretty much idiotic in the current state, it should be run with light cars and sitting on the pits wouldn't be allowed to make sure they run on the track, the fastest car should have the pole. For making overtaking possible there should be more mechanical grip, give them real slicks for example, maybe even fatter ones and reduce wing size, possibly ban extra bits sticking out of the car and remove TC to make small mistakes possible. I can't see why it's so hard to come up with proper changes for FIA, they've probably ran out of bananas again.
I'm saying the same thing. When both cars are runnning clean and trouble free Alonso is usually a little bit quicker. But Hamilton has just been great in terms of getting the better results by being better in qualifying, making less mistakes and not getting stuck behind BMW's in races.
It's supposed to create a more dynamic race. For example yesterday there could have been some exitement from the fact that we knew that Lewis was almost able to keep up with the Ferraris even though he was on the harder tyres. Meaning that later on, on the softer tyres he might have been able to attack them. The system isn't working though, as there is not enough difference between the hard and the soft tyres.
On the other hand, if there was a big difference, then the teams would probably all be running the same strategies anyway.
You're right about qualifying, it's been a joke for years. What I don't understand is why qualifying has been on fuel for so long when obviously there is no one in the world who doesn't think it's crap? Just shows how poorly F1 is managed.
Banning refuelling would be the first thing I'd do to improve overtaking. You want to get past someone? Do it on the track.
I think you'd suddenly see a lot more overtaking manouevers if the drivers knew they couldn't rely on pit stops to get past people in front.
I think you'd suddenly see a lot more overtaking manouevers if the drivers knew they couldn't rely on pit stops to get past people in front.
The problem isn't that the drivers didn't want to overtake, the problem is that no matter how much you wanted to, you can't because the aerodynamics get messed up when you are 5 tenths behind another car. It takes a huge mistake from the driver in front or big performance difference between the cars to make an overtake.
They just need to get rid of all those crazy aerodynamic widgets from the cars, although that's easier said than done.
Ground effects (shaping of the underside of the car to produce downforce with diminished effects on drag) could be reinstated. As I understand it, the venturi effect is less affected by being in another car's wake than current wing's aero efficiency.
The FIA just got scared by its efficiency and banned it without really looking at possible ways to regulate it.
The FIA just got scared by its efficiency and banned it without really looking at possible ways to regulate it.
F1 could learn from the STCC qualification system!
As David Coultard pointed out at the start of the season in interview "any series that has a qualifying session that puts the fastest car at the front is going to suffer the fundamental problem that the fast car will pull away".
The current F1 qualifying system tries to redress this, but it is not drastic enough.
I think F1 qualifying should only modify your starting position, and your position should be set by reverse championship order. So the guy leading the championship has to do some real magic to get into the top 6.
Then we would have some exciting racing.
As David Coultard pointed out at the start of the season in interview "any series that has a qualifying session that puts the fastest car at the front is going to suffer the fundamental problem that the fast car will pull away".
The current F1 qualifying system tries to redress this, but it is not drastic enough.
I think F1 qualifying should only modify your starting position, and your position should be set by reverse championship order. So the guy leading the championship has to do some real magic to get into the top 6.
Then we would have some exciting racing.
One of the reasons GP2 works so well. Have a look at those skirts that increase the effect of the venturi tunnel by closing it off:
http://first4f1.com/Wallpapers_4/GP2_5140.jpg
Dp
Wow. For some reason I thought this weekend's race was in Spa, despite the thread title and all the websites indicating otherwise.
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