I certainly hope by U2, you are talking old U2 such as The Joshua Tree or earlier and not that crap out today.....

Head banging Barbies FTW
(do you write everything I type here down? Where's my brushless E-Starter????? )

Quote from Ball Bearing Turbo :

Heh, you and I would've got a long great if we were teenagers at the same time in the same place!

You and Mike can drop in for a beer if you're ever in Melbourne. Throw on some Zeppelin, fire up the NES, stoke up the, um, y'know, sorted

We've got Gold FM on at work now, which is kinda ok because it reminds me of my 80s childhood! No modern Top 40 hits, just golden oldies from the 60s onward. You can't go ten minutes without hearing either Foreigner, The Eagles, Queen, Toto, Creedence, even Zep gets a run now and then. Brilliant. No Avril, no Kellie, no Wolfmother, no Timberlake, no Akon, no homegrown half-arsed Pop Idol tossers. It's sodding brilliant

Jeez I'm gittin' old. Hey! You kids! Git awf ma dang lawn!! :geezer:

Quote from mrodgers :

I certainly hope by U2, you are talking old U2 such as The Joshua Tree or earlier and not that crap out today.....

Head banging Barbies FTW
(do you write everything I type here down? Where's my brushless E-Starter????? )

You can have that after you send me a blank cheque.

I don't write EVERYTHING down, I just have a good memory (and a large notebook full of text )

And by U2, mostly the older stuff, but there are a few I listen to that are newer (newer meaning after I was born).

Are we allowed to talk about uh...the stuff...here on these forums?
~Bryan~

Quote from dropin_biking :

Are we allowed to talk about uh...the stuff...here on these forums?
~Bryan~

seems the norm yeahhttp://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=203831#post203831

You know, I just never could get into U2. I was into Ozzy, Iron Maiden
Metallica (before the garage days stuff) and Van Halen. and Snow... Man there was so much coke around in those days... It still is I guess,
but after having a cousin OD and watching friends and aquaintances fall apart over that crap. I thank the Good Lord I still have a few brain cells left and some semblance of sanity. I never got hooked on it though. I was one of those lucky people I guess that could (and did) do it for days at a time and just walk away from it.
What really got me though was in 2000 (?). We gave a friend of my son's a game boy type toy for X-mas. He was all happy with it. When it came time for him to go home, He asked if he could leave it here.
He said he didn't want to "lose" it in his house somewhere like he did all his other expensive gifts and bicycles he had gotten over the years.
I wanted to go off on his "parents" so damn bad, but there really wasn't much to do about it. They were constantly pulling that sort of crap. They busted his mom once for solicitation. I know she gave this one guy a*** for a bump (less than a $20 rock) I'm just glad she was too brain dead to think about pimping out her kids.

Quote from Racer Y :

You know, I just never could get into U2. I was into Ozzy, Iron Maiden
Metallica (before the garage days stuff) and Van Halen. and Snow... Man there was so much coke around in those days... It still is I guess,
but after having a cousin OD and watching friends and aquaintances fall apart over that crap. I thank the Good Lord I still have a few brain cells left and some semblance of sanity. I never got hooked on it though. I was one of those lucky people I guess that could (and did) do it for days at a time and just walk away from it.
What really got me though was in 2000 (?). We gave a friend of my son's a game boy type toy for X-mas. He was all happy with it. When it came time for him to go home, He asked if he could leave it here.
He said he didn't want to "lose" it in his house somewhere like he did all his other expensive gifts and bicycles he had gotten over the years.
I wanted to go off on his "parents" so damn bad, but there really wasn't much to do about it. They were constantly pulling that sort of crap. They busted his mom once for solicitation. I know she gave this one guy a*** for a bump (less than a $20 rock) I'm just glad she was too brain dead to think about pimping out her kids.

Over here in the past ten years or so cocaine(not crack) has become a real big problem. I personally knew five people; same age as me(mid twenties) who died in their sleep from hart attacks, normal working class folk with good jobs, and to party was to get a big €500 bag of coke for the night out. Now, the problem is, there's these cabages who 'think' they are addicted, when it's obvious that the shite that they are putting up their nose bares as much resemblance to real cocaine as spam does to a lump of bacon.
I'll tell you one thing though, if you where able somehow to switch the whole population of the UK and the USA, the UK population would be dead within a week. we'd od on all that mexican meth and the guns too.
Thank god crack never hit over or meth either phew

Quote from dropin_biking :

Wow BBT you are my freaking idol. You are so me in 20 years.

BTW, it finally occured to me -

That would make me 35, which I am not!

(28)

28! Young whippersnapper :geezer:

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Now, the problem is, there's these cabages who 'think' they are addicted, when it's obvious that the shite that they are putting up their nose bares as much resemblance to real cocaine as spam does to a lump of bacon.

Coke is just fashion, the way I see it. And it must be incredibly fashionable for bunches of people to just blow all their hard earned cash on something which technically you probably shouldn't even call a drug. And then pretend they're addicted because they actually can't figure out what else to do with their lives...

I prefer pepsi. :soapbox:

I know one or two people who like their Bolivian marching powder, but they're generally cashed-up, narcissistic wankers who only do coke because they can afford it - y'know, the same reason people buy Porsches Crack's not a big issue in Oz, thankfully. Too hard to get it here and noone can be arsed making it. They'd face stiff competition from the biker-run meth kitchens anyway.

The worst damage I've seen done to people is by that old standard, heroin. I've seen far too many lives wrecked by that shit and it's a drug I have absolutely zero tolerance for. It doesn't just ruin the user, it rips their families and friendships apart like a freakin cyclone as the drug becomes a junkie's sole focus and nothing else is important. Thing is, once you get to the stage where you're depriving your kids of food so you can fit up, you're so far gone you're barely aware of your own behaviour. Another drug, ice, is starting to rival smack as a total life-waster and in some ways it's worse. The addiction might not be as intense, but it hits you so fast and so hard that before you know it you're clawing at your own face to release the bugs under your skin and your teeth are just falling out by themselves ... it's bad, bad news, kids. You wanna escape reality? Just stick to iced whiskey-bongs and Playstation marathons okay?*

*[this forum member does not endorse drug use]

Heroin is the big daddy of drugs. It's mean and evil and wants to kill you. For some unknown fateful reason I was living in smack central (Smith St, Collingwood) many years back, and I learnt all I needed to learn about heroin without ever touching the stuff. Lesson learnt... - don't touch the stuff!

Seriously, as Mr Hank says, stay away! I'm sort of a fairly drug tolerant person, but heroin is on another level. If you ever receive the strange pleasure of finding yourself living with smack-heads, as I did - then get out quick! And take your prize winning music collection and your second hand B + O stereo with you, because otherwise it's going with them. Too bad I had to learn the hard way.

Don't know much about ice. Sounds lovely though...

Oh and... quit smoking!

* cutting hair and obtaining job, optional

Well guys...I got the hippie hair cut off today. It was with me from my scary journy of the end of grade 6, summer before grade 7, grade 7, summer before grade 8, all grade 8, trimmed it for grad, all of summer before grade 9, and all this summer. It was nice and comfortable, it suited me, I was one with the hair. And I got it cut today and I personally feel it looks like sheet, so I'm kinda fumed, plus bummed out, the good news is at least I found my 2112 LP, woo, go Rush.
~Bryan~

You goddam sellout, you're out of the gang


j/k ;] don't sweat it, it'll grow back

Quote from Hankstar :

28! Young whippersnapper :geezer:

Yup, just a kid.....

I'm old enough now that I have to count from my birth year to figure it out, LOL. Can't just remember it outright.

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I know one or two people who like their Bolivian marching powder, but they're generally cashed-up, narcissistic wankers who only do coke because they can afford it - y'know, the same reason people buy Porsches Crack's not a big issue in Oz, thankfully. Too hard to get it here and noone can be arsed making it. They'd face stiff competition from the biker-run meth kitchens anyway.

The worst damage I've seen done to people is by that old standard, heroin. I've seen far too many lives wrecked by that shit and it's a drug I have absolutely zero tolerance for. It doesn't just ruin the user, it rips their families and friendships apart like a freakin cyclone as the drug becomes a junkie's sole focus and nothing else is important. Thing is, once you get to the stage where you're depriving your kids of food so you can fit up, you're so far gone you're barely aware of your own behaviour. Another drug, ice, is starting to rival smack as a total life-waster and in some ways it's worse. The addiction might not be as intense, but it hits you so fast and so hard that before you know it you're clawing at your own face to release the bugs under your skin and your teeth are just falling out by themselves ... it's bad, bad news, kids. You wanna escape reality? Just stick to iced whiskey-bongs and Playstation marathons okay?*

*[this forum member does not endorse drug use]

You know, Houston is a distribution point for heroin (Mexican Tar), but luckily it just goes thru and on up north or wherever. I really don't know a thing about it besides the made for TV horror stories.
I'm sure there are some junkies somewhere in town, but no nowhere near the levels of New York or London. Meth has been here for as long as I can remember.

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I know one or two people who like their Bolivian marching powder, but they're generally cashed-up, narcissistic wankers who only do coke because they can afford it - y'know, the same reason people buy Porsches Crack's not a big issue in Oz, thankfully. Too hard to get it here and noone can be arsed making it. They'd face stiff competition from the biker-run meth kitchens anyway.

The worst damage I've seen done to people is by that old standard, heroin. I've seen far too many lives wrecked by that shit and it's a drug I have absolutely zero tolerance for. It doesn't just ruin the user, it rips their families and friendships apart like a freakin cyclone as the drug becomes a junkie's sole focus and nothing else is important. Thing is, once you get to the stage where you're depriving your kids of food so you can fit up, you're so far gone you're barely aware of your own behaviour. Another drug, ice, is starting to rival smack as a total life-waster and in some ways it's worse. The addiction might not be as intense, but it hits you so fast and so hard that before you know it you're clawing at your own face to release the bugs under your skin and your teeth are just falling out by themselves ... it's bad, bad news, kids. You wanna escape reality? Just stick to iced whiskey-bongs and Playstation marathons okay?*

*[this forum member does not endorse drug use]

Quote from Electrik Kar :

Heroin is the big daddy of drugs. It's mean and evil and wants to kill you. For some unknown fateful reason I was living in smack central (Smith St, Collingwood) many years back, and I learnt all I needed to learn about heroin without ever touching the stuff. Lesson learnt... - don't touch the stuff!

Seriously, as Mr Hank says, stay away! I'm sort of a fairly drug tolerant person, but heroin is on another level. If you ever receive the strange pleasure of finding yourself living with smack-heads, as I did - then get out quick! And take your prize winning music collection and your second hand B + O stereo with you, because otherwise it's going with them. Too bad I had to learn the hard way.

Don't know much about ice. Sounds lovely though...

Oh and... quit smoking!

* cutting hair and obtaining job, optional

probably a bit OT, but imo the worst substance for ripping appart relationships and familly's is the good ol' brew. Alchamohol is by far the most dangerious as its so widley accepted into our culture...I've had first hand experience with this one from growing up with two brothers, and a drink crazed mother from the age of 10 to 18. It ruined my childhood and my mothers life. She is so overwhelmed by this addiction she hasent seen her family this past two years, not once asked about the two new grand daughters she has, drink is the biggest problem by far, imo anyway.

Booze is definitely the most widespread abused drug on the planet, and the most destructive from the standpoint of simply how many people are ruined by it.

Heroin wins on the fact that it takes once to get you really screwed up for a long time, and likely ending in a slow death.

So their both "the most destructive" just from different points of view really.

That's a fair comment CSU1. Since we're in the hippy thread, I'll just say I think it's bizarre that alcohol is so readily accepted in Western societies whereas pot normally isn't. I was actually talking today to an Australian friend about the alcohol 'culture' back home and how destructive it is. Definitely alcohol and tobacco are two very serious drugs which are very impactful on health and are also very addicting. Sure, they may help facilitate social bonding, but since we've invented Twister, Disco and fondue parties, are they really that necessary nowadays? I ask you.

It's tragic to hear about family or relationship breakups over drugs, whatever the drug.

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I'll just say I think it's bizarre that alcohol is so readily accepted in Western societies whereas pot normally isn't.

100% agree.

If anything it should be the other way around IMO. I don't smoke pot anymore (as I said before), but if it was legal I would probably far rather engage in the odd toke every week or 2 instead of having a few beer every week or two. I'm a firm believer in "moderation", and having a few beers is no different in that sense than having a few puffs from a joint. Pot is not an "aggressive" thing, I don't think I ever saw anyone get overly aggressive from smoking pot - quite the opposite. Unlike booze, where a few (or more than a few) drinks can turn your best friend into a complete dickhead. Pot is cheaper, more efficient, doesn't mess you up for as long as booze, and doesn't bother you for more than a few hours at a time (no next day woes). It also doesn't drain your carcass of nutrients through dehydration.

Hm, drat, now I REALLY sound like a hippie!

POT FTW!! But seriously...at $200 an ounce its really cheap. I can get a 1/4 for $50 and have it last me weeks. What I like about the drug is the sense of relaxation it gives you. It helps me face my 'problems' and sort them out in a rational manor. And like Ball Bearing Turbo pointed out, it is a lot better of a social drug then alcohol, the worst thing that can happen with a group of stoned people is running out of munchies, then you simply walk to get more munchies. As for people getting drunk, it's really unpredictable, I've seen people get violent and start picking fights, I've seen people get sexual and start cheating on loved ones, it sometimes makes people absolutely stationary, like, they can't even walk and have to be baby-sat. If you go to bed high, you get a DEEP sleep, wake up the next day feeling fine, or sometimes still a little high. What happens when you go to bed after a hard night drinking? Hang-overs. You feel like shit, why waste money on something that doesn't even feel good, or taste good for that matter?
~Bryan~

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or sometimes still a little high. ~Bryan~

LOL,

Can't say I ever had that happen!

But then like I said, I tend to take it easy on things...

Quote from Ball Bearing Turbo :

100% agree.

If anything it should be the other way around IMO. I don't smoke pot anymore (as I said before), but if it was legal I would probably far rather engage in the odd toke every week or 2 instead of having a few beer every week or two. I'm a firm believer in "moderation", and having a few beers is no different in that sense than having a few puffs from a joint. Pot is not an "aggressive" thing, I don't think I ever saw anyone get overly aggressive from smoking pot - quite the opposite. Unlike booze, where a few (or more than a few) drinks can turn your best friend into a complete dickhead. Pot is cheaper, more efficient, doesn't mess you up for as long as booze, and doesn't bother you for more than a few hours at a time (no next day woes). It also doesn't drain your carcass of nutrients through dyhydration.

Hm, drat, now I REALLY sound like a hippie!

I always used the following hypothetical arguement:

"Put my friends in a room having a party smoking pot and they will wind up zoning out on the TV watching Bugs Bunny and laughing hysterically. Put your friends in a room having a party drinking beer and they will want to leave the room to go roam around public in total destruction."

Quote from dropin_bikin :

POT FTW!! But seriously...at $200 an ounce its really cheap. I can get a 1/4 for $50 and have it last me weeks.

FWIW, last time I smoked pot was 1995. It was the same price. About the only thing in this world that doesn't go up with inflation. Though normal street prices were $50 for 1/4 and $200 for an ounce back then, I had it available in ounce quantities for ~$90-120

Yess but that was AMERICAN, this is Canadian pricing. As for waking up high, it's posible, if I'm having a late night on the computer, I could pack up a nice personal in my bong, snap it off before going to bed, wake up buzzing, it really is a good feeling, nice for a sunday night/monday morning thing with school.
~Bryan~

And here I had always assumed that Canada, where Canadian money was used, was in North America....

Yes, that was in US dollars. I had asked about just recently and came up with the same prices now as they were back in 1995, as well as all of my "smoking era" (approx. 1986 through 1995).