Quote from atlantian :

i just think that they should include a simple skid plate under body on appropriate cars. but there should be suspension and parts visible around the skidplates...

if they can't add skid plates appropriately then yes, add the detailed bottom with suspension and drive train and such. standard for each car and if you won't be able to mod the cars then you shouldn't allow modding of the underbelly

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Quote from rjm1982 :

Actually, most race cars DON'T have smooth underbodies...they did for a bit, then they realized that's a terrible idea...remember the Mercedies and the other (Porsche, Jag? ... i forget) lifting off on a straight piece of track and doing backwards flips?

Open wheel cars still use smooth bottom plates, but thats's because the car's arent shaped like normal cars...which have a profile similar to a wing...and a smooth bottom promotes more airflow under the car, meaning air under is moving much faster than the air over the car...which is what gives a wing lift...all you have to do at that point it give it a positive angle of incidence (lift the nose just a bit) and you have a flying car...

Correct, thats why its a shame the front and rear ride height does not affect downforce. even with a bottom not completly flat, lifting the nose will still guarantee a take off with the bf1,fo8,fox and the gtr' s, because the bottom is always near flat, good enough at high speeds with nose up to get cars into the air. Thats also why all cars nowadays are setup with nose down, including normal road-cars. Every car suffers from this aerodynamic effect, because indeed the entire car can be described as a giant wing. Also you get ground-effect from low ride heights; allthough for low race-classes and road-going cars this effects are minimal but it is there.

I hope in the next patch aero effect of ride height will be present, it will mean the end of all current setups and a big move to more realistic setups, which will be all as low as possible(for faster race-classes) because of the aerodynamics.

Anyway on topic
I like the idea of better textures on bottom of the cars, gives just a bit better feel and look to lfs .

Quote from XCNuse :

lol is that a serious question?

Don't worry about the barriers when the damage system gets fixed on those you really won't see cars get flipped over on freak accidents anymore.

My post had some sarcasm included.
And good if devs fixes barriers in the future.

And yes, I'll have to admit it: I've been in cruising servers for a week now. Haven't raced online recently. Am I gay?

Quote from rjm1982 :

Actually, most race cars DON'T have smooth underbodies...they did for a bit, then they realized that's a terrible idea...remember the Mercedies and the other (Porsche, Jag? ... i forget) lifting off on a straight piece of track and doing backwards flips?

Open wheel cars still use smooth bottom plates, but thats's because the car's arent shaped like normal cars...which have a profile similar to a wing...and a smooth bottom promotes more airflow under the car, meaning air under is moving much faster than the air over the car...which is what gives a wing lift...all you have to do at that point it give it a positive angle of incidence (lift the nose just a bit) and you have a flying car...

I think a modeled version would be great...and would look nice...doesnt have to be super detailed (think something like the bottom of a hot-wheels car) ... but just make it look like something more than absolute black...

Don't tell me, do you mean the difuser? And racing cars still have pretty flat underbodies. At least the LMPs do (And the CLK-GTRs were LMPs). They on the other hand have 2 difusers, one ebhind the front and one behind the rear axle.

I would like to see this happen. Ive been wanting it badly since i bought it in 06.

+1, it would add realism if you happen to roll it and would look better than having the big dark space under the car.

For this to work though you would need real looking suspension parts that are joined to the wheels so it matches up, as a realistic bottom of the car with real looking floorpans, exhaust, prop shaft etc, would look strange with the wheels just floating there, not joined to the car.