Quote from tristancliffe :

Ah! I was four then! Can't really remember the results from when I was 4!

The fact she mentioned Tyrrell didn't even occur to me, as the two I suggested were for Benetton and Ligier respectively. Whoopsie!

I expect she was hoping Mansell would retire

EDIT: Christ sake...... Oh no i've mentioned christ, someone ban me!

Remove if you wish, I didn't make it, blame sniff petrol.
Just linking to lighten the mood.

Quote from MR_B :

Remove if you wish, I didn't make it, blame sniff petrol.
Just linking to lighten the mood.

Wow, how funny, yeah, let's judge an entire city just for some people behaviour.

Quote from Rooble :

I agree, racism or any other form of abuse is unacceptable but over the past 50 years other types of abuse have started to become 'less important' and people only want to focus on a few, I think its simply because they're so easy to overhype and get people worked up.

Does anyone remember the crap the British gave Schumacher back in the day, and how much abuse he had to take from the pissed up bigots and loud mouthes? Probably not? But its all the same, the only difference is that he was German but I guess that made it ok, right? I think it went as far as his bus being attacked and the German flag being ripped down and such, but what the hell.

So next time you people start looking for blood and punishing a whole nation of passionate F1 fans for the actions of a few, take a step back and take a second look, because from where I'm standing you're just as bad as they idiot few who think what they're doing is fine.

Entirely agree with you both.

Some times people forgets that media is all about hype and making small things big so they're read much more than otherwise, thus getting bigger incomes and rising their share-price.

Statements made on international, non-english speaking newspapers is far less biased than those links posted there, and state that it was a small number of people, in the order of ten to fifteen 'beings'.

While it sickens me as a person that there is abuse directed towards people, it's still worse the wave of xenophobia that some people from the UK have started just from that overhyped story, saying that all spaniards are 'this' and 'that', which obviously doesn't help to settle the problem and just makes things worse.

Honestly, are about 65 thousand people (the number of spectators that day) going to be racists for what 10 to 15 people did? For the same mathematical formula, the whole UK is filled with the Hooligans that destroyed many bars on Barcelona few years ago, and that's not the general feeling in Spain.

Then again, those things are bound to happen when you just read your local newspapers, written in the same language of the people's interests.

Don't get me wrong, I hate racism, but going as far as some people has been (not speaking of this forum in an explicit way, but many posters on online news papers) at other kind of abuse (including xenophobia statements) is downright disgraceful too, and they are level with those less-than-twenty guys that abused Hamilton.

Bottom line, which no English newspaper seemed to catch on their news, is that new security politics have been put in place and are apparently working, registering people for offensive stuff, putting nets to avoid people trowing things, and active security where spectators are, so this might not happen again for the good of the sport itself.


PS: Yes, there still are small groups of racist people in Spain, but you just can not control or change what people thinks. Then again, most examples of 'racism' made on many posts on this thread are just twisted versions of what really happened. Remember that racism is, as JB described, the thinking that someone is less worthy because he is of a specific race, but that not all criticism against someone of a different race is racism, even if some people wants to see it that way for their particular purposes. Last, but not least, it can't be either labeled xenophobic attitude since Jenson Button and David Coulthard were not abused. On a personal note, I, as a spaniard, think that Sir Coulthard is a guy to be proud of, as he's a true gentleman, regardless of his current level of driving.

Quote from Rooble :

Does anyone remember the crap the British gave Schumacher back in the day

That's what happens when they forget the golden rule of Fawlty Towers.

Quote from xaotik :

That's what happens when they forget the golden rule of Fawlty Towers.

Just for the record :

I had a German girlfriend and the comments being trown at her from non-spaniards usually referred to the theme of this video, and this was sick also.

Needed to say is that on my current job there are some black guys which are my mates, and there's never been any problem or bad face. We just treat each other thinking we have a person in front, and taking the personal values. Race is not a frontier, wall or limit on my personal experience.