Quote from Akg01 :

Bump drafting is great in f08 to get high time , and in racing with Fzr , ( this is DRT server

Too bad your only a demo racer. :/

Quote from Vendetta :

Too bad your only a demo racer. :/

He says he's doing it on a server so either he has a friend who has the game or hasn't register'd his username with his forum name.

I use bump drafting in BL GTi when it's someone I know or someone who doesn't mind just to cacth up with the few infront (or leave the fast guy behind)

it's crap with UF1 though, as when you race it you need to slipstream for ages to get enough speed to pass, which means you get soo close and when you touch you get attached to the back of their car. So bump drafting in UF1 is rarely seen!

^ plus most people have their uf1's set up for lots of oversteer. i just finnished a set of some very violent uf1 races.

Contact with other cars should be avoided, no matter the circumstances.

^ this is true for most of the skilled drivers. but sometimes both guys get greedy at dangerous corners (chicanes etc) and neither guy backs down and crashes happen. Basicly whoever is farther behind decides if there's a collision on those corners. the guy in front can hug the inside if they enter sideby side... but if whoever is farther back doesnt back down, there's gonna be a collision.

I dont know what i'm talking about, i'll shut up now

Well, I usually don't do bumpdrafting, but I was just testing it. And, I prolly wont be doing it much more lol

Quote from tristancliffe :

How it is used on LFS is NOT a real life technique.

and how exactly is the real life technique different ?

Bump drafting on LFS is incredibly dependant upon ping, when i bump draft with drivers from Germany and around europe i can generally get away with it, but with drivers from the USA its pretty much a big no no, crash without fail. :P

Bump drafting is pretty much the only way you can get 34.xx times on the oval, closest ive had in normal two car draft is a 35.06, though if you get really lucky might be someone in front to grab that extra bit of draft and get into the 34.xx's. Know a couple of people who have 34.60's on oval using bump drafting :o

And i must say if anyone wacked on their brakes on a oval when i was trying to bump draft them on my team's server they wouldn't stay on the server for much longer than 5 secs, time it takes me to kick and ban. Its probally one of the most dangerous things one can do and would most likely take out more than half the pack. But thankfully haven't had it once...yet.

I don't mind bumpdrafting at all, if it's done safely, i.e. on straights only and if no pass is attempted, the bumping car backs off early enough. I do it often on BL1 w/ XFG when catching up with the leaders or trying to outrun someone i know is faster. I do it safely, and can't remember a time it's ever resulted in a lag crash. In fact, I see it as not wanting to catch up with leaders if it's not done when possible (wtf, you want to lose eh?).

@the ppl who brake in front of bumpdrafters:
That's wrecking/blocking (depending on the outcome), deliberately slowing the other car down or taking it out. Bumpdrafting is not wrecking and when practised correctly is beneficial to both racers involved. What justifies you to wreck instead of informing you don't approve of this? I bet most BDs including me will back off and won't try it again with you.

The same as a flame: You brakers are a sad lot of losers, rubbing in racing is everyday stuff when done with cars that can handle it. Take your head out of your ass and see it does wonders for both of you.

Quote from NotAnIllusion :

....rubbing in racing is everyday stuff when done with cars that can handle it.

Even so, contact between cars is clearly a no-no in most racing series rules. The fact is that you shouldn't be deliberately contacting other cars. It isn't your call, you shouldn't bump other cars. In LFS it is doubly dangerous due to lag collisions. I'm so happy I don't waste my time on public servers where people think they can crash into me when they feel like it.
"Sorry for sticking your car in the wall, was just trying to bump draft, hehe..."
"Nice one. Moron."

Bottom line is: bumping my car means you wish to improve your race by possibly disrupting someone else's. I don't wish to race with people who take liberties like that. Who would?

Quote from Gunn :

"Sorry for sticking your car in the wall, was just trying to bump draft, hehe..."

yes, that is exactly what I was thinking about that whole bumpdrafting thing. I didn't even know it and now that I do, how should I know if someone is bumpdrafting me or just too stupid to drive.

If that was common practice I would just bumpdraft cars before they corner (which certainly wins me a position) and then excuse myself: "Hey, I was just bumpdrafting, your fault if you cannot handle it"

I would consider it an offense if someone drives into my rear, no matter what excuses he has thereafter.

I only drive the open-wheeled cars but you bump-draft me at your peril. I'll give you a brake test so fast. It may be legitimate in NASCAR type racing but not in single-seaters.

Quote from tristancliffe :

If anyone is foolish enough to bumpdraft me ... blablabla ... by braking as hard as possible...

Good idea to f**K up someones race who likes to get a better position ... together with you. illepall

I like bumpdraft, hope someone breakes the 33 barriere. http://img283.imageshack.us/img283/415/347vd.jpg

Harry

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The only barrier bump drafters will break on my servers is the 999 day barrier.

Quote from zorrofox :

I'll give you a brake test so fast.

And then reverse gear and full throttle

Quote from Shotglass :

and how exactly is the real life technique different ?

In real life the lead car gets a gain from drafting anyway, so the speed differences are less. Plus, real life drivers will only do so if it is totally safe to do so, whereas LFS drivers do it at almost any time, whether the lead driver is expecting it or not.

Plus it's NEVER done in Formula cars, so it shouldn't be done in the FO8, but because body damage has no effect on performance yet, the fools that use the oval use it all the time.

You touch my car? I touch your car!
You don't mind wether I don't want to be bumpdrafted or not? I don't mind wether you want to brake or not.
You want to gain a position? Take me over! (or try to )
Bumpdrafters are considered wreckers in my book.

Vain

Bumpdrafting in real life isnt ramming the car hard up the rear. In real life a pocket of air is trapped between the two cars thus reducing the ramming. To many people seem to watch to much BTCC here
In real life lag doesn't exist and who ever said it's done in formula cars ROFL because they don't otherwise they'd lose downforce in the dirty air and damage the front wing.

If you see me in a server and your a bumpdrafter you better move to the right instead of ram me off the track. To many times lag has sent me off and to many times someone has forced me off the track by continuing to ram me while I'm braking for the corner. I will always brake for bumpdrafters because to bumpdraft it's stupid when lag is possible so I'll always give you a brake test and see how much time you have to avoid me If a car spins in front of the car in front of me at least I have enough time to try avoid it.

Vain is spot on there if you don't mind bumpdrafting me then in my books you don't mind me braking

Keiran

Bumpdrafting in LFS is akin to cheating imho. It's an exploit, a slow-car-boost for guys that can't keep up under their own steam. There's no skill to it, and the gains are far too great.

I just laugh when I see guys doing it. RAM!.....fall back....RAM!....fall back.....RAM! "YAY WE IS NOW GOING 20MPH QUICKER AND CATCHING ZHE LEADORZ!! WE ARE ZHE FASTEST!!".

I bow down to your ability.

Quote from sinbad :

Bumpdrafting in LFS is akin to cheating imho. It's an exploit, a slow-car-boost for guys that can't keep up under their own steam. There's no skill to it, and the gains are far too great.

I just laugh when I see guys doing it. RAM!.....fall back....RAM!....fall back.....RAM! "YAY WE IS NOW GOING 20MPH QUICKER AND CATCHING ZHE LEADORZ!! WE ARE ZHE FASTEST!!".

I bow down to your ability.

Lol

Have had a few people start doing this to me, end up one of either 2 ways, He knock himself out / He takes us both out (Then I get 'Sorryyy :shy.

I find a annoying as hell trying to be good (have been accused of blocking and tbh I was a bit, lesson learned) and let people by on the inside, and then having some idiot refusing to pass you and risking both mine and his race.

Bumpdrafting is idiotic. It is purposeful touching and unexpected. And not fair racing imho.

i dont mind people bumpdrafting me on the oval.. but it is very annoying when people do it on tracks with left and right turns

i wouldnt be a jerk and slam on the breaks. ... i may break a bit early for a corner though.

They shouldn't be bumpdrafting before a corner. illepall

I bump draft only if im playing with mates and if in slow cars. With fast cars its far too dangerous.
I have done it a few times in karting at the gp when im stuck behind some guy who's a rolling roadblock. went round turn one as quick as possible hit the back of the kart infront and keep on pushing until we are both past or have an overlap. The guy i was pushing shat himself but adleased the Marshalls laughed.

Ive help push people past in Mini's and GTI's stuff like that i see no problem with that at all as long as its in the right place.