Quote from R.Kolz :

Can sb. please send me ( PM ) the link for the IGTC tracker. Thanks.

Please

Quote from BinBalde :

Please

Tracker link sent

Starblue

After our car #15 timed out the tracker is now saying that we are 3 laps down ? How come ?
I believe we haven't lost more than 1 lap in this incident.

Quote from Lotesdelere :

After our car #15 timed out the tracker is now saying that we are 3 laps down ? How come ?
I believe we haven't lost more than 1 lap in this incident.

I'll look into it after the race; we will run the replay on the tracker and we will recount all teams laps as we have to recount Team #12 anyway

Starblue

Some drivers should really think about blue flag rule, and admins should really try to force this because to some drivers blue flag it seems doesn't mean anything!

I watched race for last 15mins and what I saw was awful!

I'm sure we will have some complains and for the start I really would like admins to take a look at #10 driving in last 7mins of the race. It cost us 1 position. Really awful driving under blue flag there!

Thanks everyone for putting up with the tracker/penalty issues during the race today. We had a few snafus that will be worked out for Round 6.

The lapcounts for #12 and #15 will also be re-examined as we run the race replay through the tracker tonight or tomorrow.

Quote from r4ptor :

SG penalty given to #1, for initiating a very risky passing maneuver halfway through the chicane, by cutting the chicane exit, but then lost control and slided into #6.

Yeah, that was my mistake. My tires where running really good at the time (R4's) and I didn't expect the speed differential going into the corner... I should have just locked them up and grazed the tires but I chose to go for the swerve. After going through the grass I tried to drift the car to stay as far over to left as possible... It missed working by about 2 feet, sorry I messed up your race guys.

You were obviously way quicker so i thought you would wait to overtake our driver after the chicane on the straight. A bit impatient i feel (like a few guys that were unlapping themselves around us in that stint) but no worries.

Thanks for the apology

Damn fun race though Another case of "What could have been" for CR. We enjoyed it all immensely though.

Never have i pushed so hard as i did in my final stint. I was sure my tires were going to pop in those last two laps. I was running on less rubber than Lewis Hamilton did in China (?)

Quote from Dragonmen :

I'm sure we will have some complains and for the start I really would like admins to take a look at #10 driving in last 7mins of the race. It cost us 1 position. Really awful driving under blue flag there!

Could you be more concrete please ?

I apologize if I damaged you. I was trying to let pass the driver behind me when the blue flag appeared - but when the driver was not able to overtake me and it cost me too much time, I had to step on the gas.

I know that this is annoying, I also met some blueflagged driver overtaking me and slowing me down a lot, but complain about it

Quote from Lotesdelere :

And thanks to #1 for blocking our car #15 for THREE laps while being under blue flag and FOUR laps down...

106 - We where both passing cars on the lap and the driver never got close enough to draft me.

107 - After loosing a little bit of time at the end of 106 you driver catches me. However, I am in the middle of trying to get around a damaged car.

108 - Still fighting to get around the presumed damaged car. At the end of the lap your driver pit.

Did you expect a car of equal pace to just pull over and let you by? If thats the case you probably would have wanted the car that I was fighting (the 38) to pull over as well.

I mean if your driver would have been noticeable faster than me I would have let him by, but the only place he even apeared to want to make a pass was in the downhill left hander on his pit in lap... He didnt really push the subject so to be honest with you I thought he was just sloting into the line untill we got around the damaged car. Ether way I was fighting for laps and we were pacing at almost the same times.

Quote from BigTime :

106 - We where both passing cars on the lap and the driver never got close enough to draft me.

107 - After loosing a little bit of time at the end of 106 you driver catches me. However, I am in the middle of trying to get around a damaged car.

108 - Still fighting to get around the presumed damaged car. At the end of the lap your driver pit.

Did you expect a car of equal pace to just pull over and let you by? If thats the case you probably would have wanted the car that I was fighting (the 38) to pull over as well.

I mean if your driver would have been noticeable faster than me I would have let him by, but the only place he even apeared to want to make a pass was in the downhill left hander on his pit in lap... He didnt really push the subject so to be honest with you I thought he was just sloting into the line untill we got around the damaged car. Ether way I was fighting for laps and we were pacing at almost the same times.

Do you know that magic word downforce? How could i overtake you when always needed to pull down in 200+km/h turn.. Its not my problem that you are racing someone, once the blue flag is shown you HAD to let me pass.
Anyway i twice slowed down, because your ignorancy could affect our race, but this is definately not the right way...
Then i pitted just because you were slowing me down so much. I showed you my nose, my lights, everything, you were still not easy to let me pass - so pits for me.

I just wanna thank the good Daniel Palma in number 22, for runnig directly into me, when I under blue flag --> pulled all out to the righthand side and even lifted the gas to let him by... on the backstraight for the final corner...
This nice "thank you mate" move happened on his 64'th lap... Great work Daniel...

Quote from Mysho :

Do you know that magic word downforce? How could i overtake you when always needed to pull down in 200+km/h turn.. Its not my problem that you are racing someone, once the blue flag is shown you HAD to let me pass.
Anyway i twice slowed down, because your ignorancy could affect our race, but this is definately not the right way...
Then i pitted just because you were slowing me down so much. I showed you my nose, my lights, everything, you were still not easy to let me pass - so pits for me.

Not until your final lap of the stint (the 3rd lap, final sector of the laps in question) did you even try to make a pass. If you actually watch the replay you'll find you didn't even draft me down the straight so I was wondering, have you ever heard of that magic word downforce?

I just watched the replay yet again and I saw no flashing at all on lap 108, the only lap in which you drew close enough to pass. Also you might want to notice the distance between me and the damaged car... Much closer than you where to me. Also keep in mind there is a big difference in blocking and holding pace so please, get your terminology right.

The simple fact of the matter is, when you pull along side or even make a half way decent run on me, you can have the spot, as a matter of fact I'll hand it to you on silver platter. However you never made this attempt and as I already said in the past post, I thought you where slotting in line so we could overtake the car ahead. I really thought you would understand the situation I was in, being a points contender, but I guess not.

Lastly you might want to ask the 06 and the 14 how much room I gave them when they passed me...

I would like to recommend a change in the following rule...

K. SAFETY CAR / FULL-COURSE YELLOW CONDUCT
1.2) If a car is stuck in the gravel or is out of fuel when the SC is deployed, the stranded driver must wait to be pushed out of the gravel or back to the pits by the push car. This car must then drive to the pits, where it will be held for 5 minutes by the marshals. Drivers returning to the pits under their own power following such an incident must drive within the limits of the damage to their car.

This rule is not fair. The reason is simple, only 1 of the 3 cars can actually get stuck in the sand, the XRR. This gives the other cars an unfair advantage. The rule it self seems a bit extreme to me regardless of which simply due to the fact that in most circumstances a beached car will loose a minimum of one lap, so there is no need for further punishment. Today we were beached just after sector 1, and we still lost a lap before the penalty. Basically we went from a top 3 car to 4 laps down due to a rule that in my opinion, should have never been created to begin with.

This is pretty ridiculous. 2nd time this season I've been knocked off track into the kitty litter by someone I wasn't racing against. This time it took ~2 minutes for the push car to even start responding + the associated penalties. Our race completely destroyed because I happened to be in position to get knocked off track by a car snap spinning across the road. The other two cars can just drive out of the gravel but instead we get to lose mondo time (or in this case a lap) waiting for the push car and then get a penalty on top of that? It doesn't seem fair at all to have an uberharsh penalty that can only be applied to one car, besides not having considerations in the rule for why you ended up in that gravel trap in the first place.

This race was good for us - till half time. Then everything goes worse. I will wait for final result because that counting was weird.

I hope next time we will show better performance.

Quote from BigTime :

Not until your final lap of the stint (the 3rd lap, final sector of the laps in question) did you even try to make a pass. If you actually watch the replay you'll find you didn't even draft me down the straight so I was wondering, have you ever heard of that magic word downforce?

I just watched the replay yet again and I saw no flashing at all on lap 108, the only lap in which you drew close enough to pass. Also you might want to notice the distance between me and the damaged car... Much closer than you where to me. Also keep in mind there is a big difference in blocking and holding pace so please, get your terminology right.

The simple fact of the matter is, when you pull along side or even make a half way decent run on me, you can have the spot, as a matter of fact I'll hand it to you on silver platter. However you never made this attempt and as I already said in the past post, I thought you where slotting in line so we could overtake the car ahead. I really thought you would understand the situation I was in, being a points contender, but I guess not.

Lastly you might want to ask the 06 and the 14 how much room I gave them when they passed me...

Well, i am not allowed to race with you, your obligation is to let me pass easily and this just hasn't been done. If you think i didn't have enough speed, how the hell could i got to your ass as near as i was.
My times were as fast as yours because i really felt i am trapped behind you. (Laps before were definately faster )
In pit lap you really had to let me pass, i don't know how much other indications/demonstrations you want.
I have different braking points from you, so believe, you slowed me down a lot.
Anyway, i am not angry, i am not annoyed, just writting my point of view. So maybe next race not blue flag lapping fighting with you, but regural fight for a pos.

Has anybody already uploaded a full replay somewhere ?

Quote from Who Cares :

I just wanna thank the good Daniel Palma in number 22, for runnig directly into me, when I under blue flag --> pulled all out to the righthand side and even lifted the gas to let him by... on the backstraight for the final corner...
This nice "thank you mate" move happened on his 64'th lap... Great work Daniel...

Wasnt like that in my computer, in fact i said to my partner what was hapening by TS (team speak), and he said thet u maybe pop a tire. As u can see in the screenshots that i let u there the touch were product of lag.
I feel sorry by that.

Quote from rcpilot :

2nd time this season I've been knocked off track into the kitty litter by someone I wasn't racing against.

I am sad to say, that it was me that took you out, on that one, for that i am really sorry, i felt bad straight away, but i must say that i was very aware where you were, and i was aware where to let you pass, so i was going at my own pace, but in the lefthander right after split 1, someone, don't have the replay to confirm who, was driving very slowly in that corner, and comming around that corner doing 220 kmh i tried to steer clear of him, only to put one set of wheels on the grass, thinking, this will end bad, and it did, i lost control having one set of wheels on the grass, sliding across the track, thinking, i hope he is braking, turn around facing the oncomming traffic and saw that i hit you...

But sorry i spoiled you race, but there was nothing i could do, at that point i was NOT in control of my car, and i knew you were comming, only hoping that you would see, i was out of control, and avoid me... Sadly you did not succed in avoiding me

Regards
Franke... Click

Quote from BigTime :

I would like to recommend a change in the following rule...

K. SAFETY CAR / FULL-COURSE YELLOW CONDUCT
1.2) If a car is stuck in the gravel or is out of fuel when the SC is deployed, the stranded driver must wait to be pushed out of the gravel or back to the pits by the push car. This car must then drive to the pits, [U]where it will be held for 5 minutes by the marshals....

+1

Quote from Franke :

I am sad to say, that it was me that took you out, on that one, for that i am really sorry, i felt bad straight away, but i must say that i was very aware where you were, and i was aware where to let you pass, so i was going at my own pace, but in the lefthander right after split 1, someone, don't have the replay to confirm who, was driving very slowly in that corner, and comming around that corner doing 220 kmh i tried to steer clear of him, only to put one set of wheels on the grass, thinking, this will end bad, and it did, i lost control having one set of wheels on the grass, sliding across the track, thinking, i hope he is braking, turn around facing the oncomming traffic and saw that i hit you...

But sorry i spoiled you race, but there was nothing i could do, at that point i was NOT in control of my car, and i knew you were comming, only hoping that you would see, i was out of control, and avoid me... Sadly you did not succed in avoiding me

Regards
Franke... Click

I know, can't blame someone for happening to spin into me. But at that point I was yelling something along the lines of 'why me' with profanity for added flavor.

Quote from BinBalde :

Wasnt like that in my computer, in fact i said to my partner what was hapening by TS (team speak), and he said thet u maybe pop a tire. As u can see in the screenshots that i let u there the touch were product of lag.
I feel sorry by that.

Point taken mate, and no excuses needed... clearly a lag issue then... so no worries...

Quote from rcpilot :

This is pretty ridiculous. 2nd time this season I've been knocked off track into the kitty litter by someone I wasn't racing against. This time it took ~2 minutes for the push car to even start responding + the associated penalties. Our race completely destroyed because I happened to be in position to get knocked off track by a car snap spinning across the road. The other two cars can just drive out of the gravel but instead we get to lose mondo time (or in this case a lap) waiting for the push car and then get a penalty on top of that? It doesn't seem fair at all to have an uberharsh penalty that can only be applied to one car, besides not having considerations in the rule for why you ended up in that gravel trap in the first place.

I feel your pain. I wonder why in the heck Scawen and crew doesn't find glitches like the XRR sand trap problem and FIX them! I wonder if they even really know about it as on each upgrade everyone seems to bitch about interiors and sounds rather than physics.

Quote from R.Kolz :

Has anybody already uploaded a full replay somewhere ?

Hi Rudi,

The replay is here: http://www.mediafire.com/?ydu79gmmkjn