yes, i was trying to imply that neither of the suggested cars is ultimate offroad machine, unlike an unimog or anything else that was built for loose ground
btw: an H1 weights over 3,5tonnes, and is thus (in germany at least) not a car anymore, but a real truck
so why does that count but not the unimog?
let me answer it for you: because it would destroy your ideology of the hummer being the "bestest" offroader ever built, additionally so far you managed to ignore all the arguments and opponions against the hummer or turned them down on "driver" or facts being faked
all what i just wrote was in my last posts as well, even though way more subtle
Your country may consider the H1 a truck but for all the other countrys in this world the H1 is a SUV. And what more proof can you want, i shown you a bloody car show where the Hummer and all the other cars drove on the same course in the same manor and lost.
Oh and by the way Speedway if u want to count the unimog as well then I also must tell you that it's not the best off-roader, not close by a mile. This is the best off-roader period:
A Jeep or a Hummer on road tyres are gonna be shit off-road. At the end of the day any "SUV" is a jumped-up estate car. Sure, some, like the Range Rover, Disco and the Hummer (sort of) have some 4WD ability, but if you really want to go mud-plugging you'll have to get something like a UNIMOG or a Defender that's been modded.