Quote from SamH :

Me? Nahh, I'm a miserable bastard, just like Bob and Karl!

You're right!! What was I thinking?

I think you caught me in a good mood


CTRA: http://www.raceauthority.com/stats/?licence=AMB

That's a picture to be proud of

Quote from Intrepid :

Either way hamilton drove a great race end of.

We should be talking about vettel. Absolutely stunning really!!! Webber will be very happy to have him joining RBR next year... not.

So, Intrepid: When are you going to start up the "Catholic Church of Hamilton" ? Where all you do is compare Hamilton to God, and a bunch of other BS?

Quote from Bawbag :

It's me clearly and Sam just doesn't want to say it becuase he knows he will hurt my tender feelings. :drunk:

Aww bless

Give it a year or two and Hamilton will start up his own religion anyway, then Intrepid wouldn't have to start up his own, he could just join Hamiltology.

"Hamiltology - pussies need not aply"

Quote from Boris Lozac :

"Hamiltology - pussies need not aply"

... "because we have too many"

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

... "because we have too many"

=/ He's the complete opposite of a pussy he's suicdal! O_O A pussy wouldn't squeeze someone towards the grass and ending up hitting him... A pussy wouldn't brake 5 m later then the previous world champion in the rain... The guy dares to do things but unfortunetly most of them are stupid.

He's fast but a bad racer imo.

Quote from AMB :

the fact that you have 5.4k posts means that you'd rather stay in and post crap on a forum where no one gives a shit what you think, kind of sais to me no one in the real life likes you, otherwise you'd be out socialising

he actually has a lot more but he likes to delete them and pretend hes got a life beyond the intarblag about once a year

Quote from 5haz :

However as BMW have shown us, its tricky to get your first win, but even harder to keep it up

in fairness to bmw theissen has said multiple times at the beginning of the season that their goal this year is to win a gp and ever since theyve achieved that they put all their efforts into developing the 09 car

Quote from BlueFlame :

Who's the first?

id rather not talk too much about giant cocks since the topic makes me feel a bit uneasy (and aroused) but i will tell you that tristan has fallen behind into third a good while ago

Quote from Shotglass :

id rather not talk too much about giant cocks since the topic makes me feel a bit uneasy (and aroused)...

Shotglass... Care to email JTbo and inform him about your new life direction?

:hide:

hang on ill have to correct myself there... intrepid is third and tristan 4th

I am totally konfuzed as to who number 1 is.

Or not?

This is incrediable, Vettels race at monza would have to be the most impressive showing of a driver i have ever seen.

I think Germany have found their new Shumacher.

(btw my f1 manager is crazy im almost on the front page and i started in spain!!).

By god Adrian newey better make some magic out of Redbulls car next year becuase Vettel needs a front running car ASAP.

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

Having adverts in F1 is like being stopped just before climax while having sex, as if someone just walks in and places a giant billboard between you and your partner.

...

No it isn't.

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Kinda strange situation for Vettle tbh. He has now won a race and without any questions he was the best driver on the grid. But he is still driving for the toro rosso which means that he will be having hard time getting into top 10. And the next year will be the same really. The true Vettle remains yet to be seen although his lead and driving throughout the race was impressive. Getting lost in the mediocrity is so easy in F1, just look at Robserg.

Now as for the biggest cock, we really need to settle this. I won't accept names like kidcodea or phlos, we need a more current championship for it.

Too bad STR is up for sale. If Vettel chooses to stay (he definitely won't) in STR, he might end up like Davidson and Sato: without a seat.

Moving to RBR is the natural direction for him. He'll be in a full constructor team, and people can directly compare him to the ultimate newb-basher: Mark Webber. If he can stand up to Mark - or even better him - there are going to be teams hungry to get him for 2010 and beyond.

I'm sure Newey will deliver a good car. He's magic with his engineering, pure genius. The problem with RBR's performance isn't with their car, it's with David Coulthard. Mark Webber's Q2 performances in the two most engine-heavy races of the season, Spa (10th) and Monza (4th), have shown that the Renault engine isn't too bad, around 7th on the grid just after the Big Three. The RBR chassis and aero is a very solid package, similar to BMW's standard. With luck, Vettel will end up with a car that can be compete against BMW and Toyota, pending their KERS performance.

Quote from S3ANPukekoh3 :

Yeh Hard... Maybe Vettel should stay at STR, Or they could just paint up the Toros in Red Bull colours, Toro Rosso seem too be heaps faster than Red Bull in almost every GP since the STR3 came out...

Thats mainly becuase these are high speed tracks and Renault engines are crap.

The Red bull still has a better sweet spot for raw pace.

Next year though with the shake up of all the new rules i think engine power won't mean as much due to the huge differences in the cars.

Adrian newey has to capitalise but lucky for RedBull he is the perfect man to do it.

There line up is good though:
Vettel(World champion in pace)
Webber(Very good at qualiy so he can keep them high up the grid).

Quote :

if you're not put off by James Allen in the room commentating you probably wouldn't be put off by a giant billboard.

Now that hit the nail squarely on the head and summed up 6 years of torture. I cannot express in words how I have grown to loathe James Allen's attempts at being one of the lads. In credit to him, he does have the ability to get excited over sometimes dull stuff. Sadly it's so contrived and he's so slimey that when he does it I immediately *want* to be bored just to get away from him, and he's not even in the same country.

Quote from samjh :

Too bad STR is up for sale. If Vettel chooses to stay (he definitely won't) in STR, he might end up like Davidson and Sato: without a seat.

Moving to RBR is the natural direction for him. He'll be in a full constructor team, and people can directly compare him to the ultimate newb-basher: Mark Webber. If he can stand up to Mark - or even better him - there are going to be teams hungry to get him for 2010 and beyond.

I'm sure Newey will deliver a good car. He's magic with his engineering, pure genius. The problem with RBR's performance isn't with their car, it's with David Coulthard. Mark Webber's Q2 performances in the two most engine-heavy races of the season, Spa (10th) and Monza (4th), have shown that the Renault engine isn't too bad, around 7th on the grid just after the Big Three. The RBR chassis and aero is a very solid package, similar to BMW's standard. With luck, Vettel will end up with a car that can be compete against BMW and Toyota, pending their KERS performance.

IMO if Redbull wanted to get anything out of 08 they should of swapped Vettel with Coulthard mid season.

Quote from S3ANPukekoh3 :

Yeh Hard... Maybe Vettel should stay at STR, Or they could just paint up the Toros in Red Bull colours, Toro Rosso seem too be heaps faster than Red Bull in almost every GP since the STR3 came out...

Rose-coloured glasses there. I think the STR3's performance is exaggerated because of Vettel's 5th place finish at Monaco when it was fielded by STR for the first time.

If you look at the big picture, Vettel has been outperforming Webber in the STR3/RB4, but Coulthard and Bourdais have struggled equally with the car, and Webber has only been a little bit behind Vettel.

IMHO, Renault's claims about their engine's power disparity is exaggerated. Look at Alonso's qualifying pace at Spa (6th), and Webber's at Monza (3rd). You can't expect them to go any faster than that without equalling Ferrari and McLaren in every aspect of performance.

Quote from Mustafur :

IMO if Redbull wanted to get anything out of 08 they should of swapped Vettel with Coulthard mid season.

True

@S3ANPukekoh3: Thanks for the signature quote, i'll have to eat humble pie on that one. The kid turned out good after all that mediocrity he was definately afflicted with. I actually hope he can keep it up and carry on delivering good results, his stock has certainly improved since I made that comment.

*hangs head in shame*

Quote from samjh :

Rose-coloured glasses there. I think the STR3's performance is exaggerated because of Vettel's 5th place finish at Monaco when it was fielded by STR for the first time.

If you look at the big picture, Vettel has been outperforming Webber in the STR3/RB4, but Coulthard and Bourdais have struggled equally with the car, and Webber has only been a little bit behind Vettel.

IMHO, Renault's claims about their engine's power disparity is exaggerated. Look at Alonso's qualifying pace at Spa (6th), and Webber's at Monza (3rd). You can't expect them to go any faster than that without equalling Ferrari and McLaren in every aspect of performance.

True

Not a true indication as its in the wet, its all about who can get the best traction.

Valencia was fully dry and you basically saw Renault get killed(both works and RBR) with both Torro Rossos out performing them.

The reason I think that we are only seeing the engine differences now is becuase these cars have close to the best possible downforce levels so minor advantages are huge.

I Still think that the RBR chassis is in the top 4 though

Quote from Hyperactive :

Now as for the biggest cock, we really need to settle this. I won't accept names like kidcodea or phlos, we need a more current championship for it.

Sounds like that should be included in the end of year awards ceremony. 'The biggest cock in LFS' award

Anyway onto the race: I'm really made up for Vettel, he was definitely the star of the show this weekend and fully deserved his victory. It was such a shame about Bourdais stalling on the grid, apparently his laptimes we're almost as quick as Vettels so he may have had a chance of a podium finish.

As for Hamilton, i think we say many sides of his character yesterday. He was piss poor at the start of the race tbh, but then suddenly woke up and put in a world class performance. If it hadn't been for the weather not doing what it was supposed to do then he may well have taken the win. However, some of his actions on track were overly aggressive and bordering on dangerous at times. If i were Charlie Whiting i'd be having a stern word or two in his shell like before the next race. I'm surprised he didn't have a go at Massa in the last few laps, but perhaps his tyres were shot to pieces at that stage so perhaps he showed a bit of maturity by backing off and settling for the points, we'll see.

As for the Ferrari's, man they look a nightmare in the wet, tbh they probably did well to finish where they did. If it is gonna rain in Singapore - a new street circuit, at night, under floodlights - i wouldn't be surprised if neither car gets any points !!. Lets hope for rain then

All in all it was a damn fine race, and i'm really pleased i wasn't so outraged by Hamiltons penalty at Spa that i vowed to never watch another Grand Prix again like some folk in here did....

Quote from amp88 :

He also did the same with Fisichella when he was overtaking, pushing him onto the white line and causing him to miss the first chicane. The point is that Hamilton didn't need to be doing that but he felt the need to.

With the new rules there will always be a need to do that, now.
Sure, Webber wouldn't have been able to overtake him in that
chicane but, hey, let's just push him off the track, getting that
bonus that forbids him to overtake in the next corner aswell.

Most drivers thought the Spa-decission was quite right,
so they should probably be fine with this, too...

Quote from Mazz4200 :

I'm surprised he didn't have a go at Massa in the last few laps, but perhaps his tyres were shot to pieces at that stage so perhaps he showed a bit of maturity by backing off and settling for the points, we'll see.

He was gaining around 2 seconds per lap when he was behind Massa and as de la rosa said, he probably couldn't do more probably because of graining. You could see him recover a bit in the last 2 laps I think when another car was catching up behind him.

Quote from Becky Rose :

Now that hit the nail squarely on the head and summed up 6 years of torture. I cannot express in words how I have grown to loathe James Allen's attempts at being one of the lads. In credit to him, he does have the ability to get excited over sometimes dull stuff. Sadly it's so contrived and he's so slimey that when he does it I immediately *want* to be bored just to get away from him, and he's not even in the same country.

'Classic' James Sorry? Speak up a bit, James!

And you know that you've really arrived when people start doing impressions of you ...Ooh, Lewis!

In support of James Allen (YES IN SUPPORT), he is a half decent writer. Far better in print than on the TV!