I would suggest to all to take a look at the DriverStatsFINAL.pdf in the Points thread.
In this season:
There were NO repeat winners. Each winner was a first-time LFSBC winner.
There were NO repeat 2nd-place finishers.
There were only TWO repeat 3rd-place finishers.
There were FIFTEEN accumulated DNFs this season.
There were TWENTY-EIGHT racers who competed in this season.
The average grid size was TWELVE. (Based on 8 races, counting Round 4 Race 1 and Round 4 Race 2 as separate races).
In addition, in the next two weeks, I will be creating an LFSBCSeason2 : Definitive Archive, which will contain all Qualifying and Race Results as found on the website (after I standardize the formatting), all Qualifying and Race replays, Final Points, Final Stats, and a couple bonus features (J@tko and Joseph, don't say some of the things we've discussed.) The Archive will be in 7Zip format.
From my point of view the Beginner's Cup was well organized and extremely enjoyable.
So I guess these few points I list can be seen as 'nitpicks':
- Less bumps from the SC after Qualifying sessions would be nice
- While the track selection was very nice we had Aston a little often on the programme. Maybe Round 4 could've been done at Westhill?
- The car selection was also very good apart from the Mini-FBM which was a bit slow and thus made Round 5 look a bit like Round 2. A less restricted car would've been better I guess.
- I would have liked to have seen South City on the schedule, to be honest. But I wasn't really asked for my input too much for this season. But this season's schedule wasn't too bad in my opinion, anyway.
- After seeing Round 5, I moved (and J@tko seemed to agree) that 37% would be a better restriction on the FBM for the MiniFBM. You'll have to join us in the MiniFBM league starting in a couple of weeks to find out, yeah ? :-)
- LFS Experienced Cup ? Hmmm...........................
I agree about having lots of Aston Tracks. Next Season I would think will be about the same length (good?), and probably visit each track once, and one track twice, for the RX round.
On the 'LFS Experienced Cup' front, I mean we'd love to do it, but there are plenty of other Leagues out there for that. Although, I will say that not many use different cars for each round.
I didn't get to see much of this season, and what little I did I was below par. Still, there were some very fast racers out there, and it was a lot of fun. Wish I could've been in more, but real life got in the way
Okay, so first of all, thanks to the all of the admins, they did an excellent job. I signed up in only 3 leagues since I bought S2(that was in january 2008) and this one was clearly the best, even if we only had 10-11 drivers on the grid every races. I don't know if I will be there in Season 3, I'm an experienced driver now, so I don't know if you will accept me again. Anyway, here are a few suggestions for S3 :
First, the combos : For me, you should keep for sure R1's, R4's combos on S3's calendar, because we had tight and nice races on them, and everybody seem to like them, even if we had some chaotics momment on R4... R3 was quite boring, because ky2 isn't a good track for TBOs, and because everyboby picked the FXO(which is one of the most boring car of LFS to my opinion) for me we should race the TBO race on as2 and put something like 30 or 40 kg of ballast to the FXO drivers, to encourage the drivers to choose the RB4 or the XRT. R2 provided nice and close racing, but the combo itself wasn't so interesting. R5... That was a nice race too, but that would be pointless to have this combo again in S3 because the Mini-FBM has his own league now. R6... It's a nice idea to put a rallycross race, and the XFG seems to be a nice car for , but to my opinion, bl2 or fe5 would provide closer racing. R7... GT2 are nice, but it would be better to put more restrictions on the FXR(something like 33%), and to race it on as5 or as6(even if we didn't have any incident, the Eau Rouge seems to be too dangerous with these car).
So now, a few suggestions if you want to try some new combo during the next season. :
Easy-FZ5(FZ5 with around 10 or 15% intake restriction) @ as1 maybe? I tried it with 12% and I was during 3-4 laps and I was in the same laptimes as with the FBM-Baby.
Why not an oval race? For example, with the FBM...
MRT(with some intake restrictions and ballast) @ au1, with rallycross rules? : I tried it with 5% and 40kg in the Failring, and it seems to be fun...
Suggestions for Improvements :
Longer races? 25-30 is too short for me, 40-45 minutes would be better.
Mandatory pitstops during the races? It would bring some strategy in the series, so it seems to be a good idea for me.
Superpole for quali for one or two races?
Sorry, I don't understand the world bit... Could you explain it please?
Points : I don't like your system, sorry. I'd prefer to see something like that : 15-12-10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1, because the S2 system don't give enough points to the 4-5 first guys to my mind. Also, it would be nice to have 1 or 2 "jokers" races, that means that if we have 7 rounds, only the 6 or 5 best are counted in the standings. Darryn Lobb was the best driver this season, but he lost the title just because he missed R6, so I find that quite injust for him.
Rules : Good, but pitting during SC periods should be allowed. On the first race of R4 I was obliged to drive 2 or 3 laps with a broken car, just because the pitlane was closed, I found that quite ridiculous. And there's also something I didn't understand... somewhere in the rulebook, we can read that it is possible to rejoin the race after being time-out... but nobody tried even if we had a lot of DNF for that during the season.
Ballast : You should scrap that to my opinion. For me, people may win races because they have a skills, not because they have a light car(isn't it J@kto?)
An experienced Cup? Why not ? For me it would be nice to have a 4-5 races league, with difficult combos(LRF-MRT-GTR-FO8-BF1, etc), and with high entry requirements... Well, it's up to you !
What a long post, I am sure you'll find a lot of grammar and spelling mistakes on it, please forgive me, my English really sucks, I know ! But I really wanted to comment a little bit this wonderful season. I still can't believe that I finished champion, I find that incredible to be champion for the first league you sign-up !:laola:See you on the track sometimes, and I hope that we'll have more racers during S3.
I agree with most of your points there. The ballast should be removed completly imo.
I'm pretty sure that you may pit under SC if you have major damage due to an accident which caused the SC... Or else you'd be a danger to others and it would be stupid for the Race Director to put other cars in danger just for that...
I also agree with 1 joker race but not 2 as that becomes a bit too much. Also agree on that points system but I think only the top 3 should have a boost of points the rest at 1 point from each other. After all, the podium doesn't have 4-5 steps .
I agree that deko does a fantastic job keeping everybody in order, and Joe (sometimes) is a pretty good SC, when he's not having dinner/getting his brother off the pc :P
Probably the one bad thing about S2 was the lowish grid numbers. In S1 we had at least 15 runners at all the events I think - made for some really good racing.
Indeed, now that we've had 2 seasons of LFSBC, we will start to be repeating some of the best ones. BL1/STD will always be R1. It's a combo most people know well and it provides good racing.
FE5? (Have you seen the video of last season's race there? )
There will always be a RX round. I think we'll alternate between BL RX and FE RX season by season, and probably keep the XFG as the car.
And +1 for AS2/TBO - thats a good combo.
On the GT2 front, indeed for a longer race the cars aren't balanced at all for longer races, as the restrictions are intended for short CTRA Races. For our GT2/TBO enduro at Xmas, we're editing the restrictions slightly to try and make them all the same over the period of the race.
Maybe. We had a FZ5/RAC/LX4 race at the end of S1 - didn't go too badly (I was winning for an entire lap!!) - we can think about that.
As for the tracks, we're probably going to go for 1x visit to each track, then another visit to whatever track it is for the RX round. But maybe there will be more than one combo at a certain track.
I don't think an oval race is a particuarly good idea - did you see the Kyoto 250 last year? 30 drivers, about half of which were n00bs didn't go too well...
The MRT is a bitch to drive. Sure, it would certainly seperate the men from the boys, but the race wouldn't be particuarly good IMO. The best races always come from times when everyone is close together
We hopefully will be bringing back (what will be the newly balanced) XF-JR and UF-BR for a round next season - if we can get the balancing right then that will be a cracking race.
1. For S1 the races were only 15-20 mins long, which was a bit short. 25-30 seems about right for me, I think 40-45 is a bit long tbh.
2. Hmm. I disagree. Most of the time people will just do splash'n'dash so it kinda defeats the point in a short-ish race
3. Nice idea. We might bring that in next season
a bit = un peut
The points system is designed to give as many points as is reasonable to as many people as possible. I hope that in S3 we will be doing a 'drop your worst score' rule, so that missing a round doesn't matter that much.
EDIT: Oh wait you put that
Deko is the rule man
And I can't find that rule
OI!
The ballasting system was introduced to try and give closer racing. Nobody winning more than one race was a testiment to that.
And 3% of a cars bodyweight isn't much is it? Ken was faster than me even with 17kg ballast
We will think about it though.
Because there's only 52 weekends in a year
LFS Forum rule: Whenever someone says their english sucks, it never does
Congrats for winning, thanks for your suggestions and see you on track
Your major mistake was to put TBOs and LRFs together
S1's grid was filled of nubs
You had 16 or 17 drivers during this round, whereas we had only 10-11 racers during this season's races.
I am sure that if you put XFG on it with actual rallycross rules(I mean : 4 racers per heat, 8 or so on the final), I am sure that we could have some nice action here.
Fe6 doesn't seems to be a good idea for me if you want to organise a regular race on it, because we can't pit on it.
You'll see that with some restrictions, it is easier to drive.
Idem, MRT without restrictions and ballast is undrivable on autocross, but with some it goes as well as the FBM-Baby.
Yep, in fact this suggestion goes with the 45 min race, of course it is quite pointless for a 25 min race.
Sorry, you failed. Indeed, "a little bit" means "un peu" in French, but I guess you mean something else because "Meulleur un peu/Pire un peu" doesn't sound so french.
There's an accent circonflex in tot
/pedantic mode
Most of the improvements I'd agree with, except the ballast one. If anything, more needs to be added. It was the same few racers up the front in every race, even with ballast. That's fine, as they're the fastest. But they were still pulling away from the field, even with ballast. I think they should get more ballast, to at least bring them closer to the pack
that's damn plenty
