But maybe a system which tell's you who did hit you!

lol, the many threads have come up of such a possible idea; you tell us exactly how, and we will prove you that its impossible lol

which it is; if you search crash/wreck system and.. i cant think of what else you could use to search for, but they are out there, but i can promise you that we have thought of just about every possible incident that a computer wouldn't be able to recognize who caused the accident

Slightly off topic, can anyone explain how yellow flags work? I mean how does the system recognize a yellow flag and the driver that has lost control and caused it (I've seen some servers giving messages like 'RacerX has lost control' etc).

I have an idea about black flagging, but it depends on how yellow flags work.

My idea is,

If you're not causing a yellow flag
and you hit a guy who's not causing a yellow flag (infront of you)
which results in him causing a yellow flag
you get a black flag

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My idea is,

If you're not causing a yellow flag
and you hit a guy who's not causing a yellow flag (infront of you)
which results in him causing a yellow flag
you get a black flag

But it still may be the other guy's fault, or just a racing incident.

its only those oval servers (ei: [FM] oval racing) which has that rediculous insim mod which can be extremely annoying 99.99% of the time...

so dont worry about it; its only a mod that works through the game, its not actually the game saying it

I want the black flag with the orange dot to be introduced... but only because of the other stuff it would need . I can wait though.

what about Black Flag?

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what about Black Flag?

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That is impossible to achieve fairly. A piece of software can not make accurate and fair calls about driver intent. Lag is also an issue. People braking hard and getting slammed into would cause the guy behind to be black flagged. Automatic black flags for car contact won't ever happen.

That about black flag. It was there, no need to bump.

Corner cutting is easy to identify and its also easy to detect if the off was not intended. Simple rule is that an off requires a reduction in speed and throttle application. Do not slow then you get flagged for cutting. Do slow and you don't. Cut to many times and you get flaged. Cutting with a lift counts for 1/4 the value of a non lift. Set the threshold at 3 or so. Hell if ISI can program a working flag rule then it can be done here even with in/out sim.

+1 for idea

but -1 cause its imposible to do

If computers could accurately make a call about who's fault a given accident/incident was then insurance companies would have it.

I'm guessing they don't, as it still requires solicitors and court cases to resolve some accidents. If the wealth of the insurance industry can't come up with it, I don't think it's possible.

What about something like NR2003's "laps per incident" statistic? Obviously you sometimes got credited with an incident that was not your fault, but if after thousands of laps one guy has an LPI of 60 and another has an LPI of 5 then you know who is cleaner.

(For some people of course, the true measure is "incidents per lap" ).

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I want the black flag with the orange dot to be introduced... but only because of the other stuff it would need . I can wait though.

Yes, the meatball flag needs to be in LFS - and a server side option should be meatball==>spectate.

Hi,

I was wondering if you could implement a Black Flag system for hosts (acting as steward). the idea is basically meant to force cars that are too damaged to continue, to pit within 1-2 laps, or become a spectator. The biggest advantage is those that are acting as steward within the clean racing clubs rules, could also use it as ascribing penalties, that do not require kicking, or banning.

At the simplest level, it could act simply to force ppl to racing cleanly, and if they warrant kicking etc, then at least they know why, and might change thier behaviour.

Hope you do this

Thanks..

Venus

There's already effectively a black flag. Admins just type /spectate username. Replace username with the username of the person you want to send to spectate, and they find themselves instantly watching the race instead of driving in it.

I think it would be useful to have an actual black flag button for hosts to press with a corresponding black flag message displayed. So; +1. However I also think it would be useful to have a whole range of race management options built in to LFS dedi software, and to avoid the chance of me harping on about it like I have been for a few years now, I'll promptly shut up.

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The idea is basically meant to force cars that are too damaged to continue

That is not the black flag.

Black flag is a penalty. Black flag with orange circle is what you are thinking about.

Black flagging
black flags?
Automatic Black Flag

Thanks Renku, now we've just one thread on the matter.