Wow, the IP and copyright issue has been well covered here. Good job guys.

It comes down to this, if you don't have permission to use a skin... don't. I am glad you asked on this forum and I am glad you got some good answers.

In the end, there is nothing stopping you from doing it, but why be a peckerhead?

More IP trivia... did you know that none of you own the copy of LFS that you paid for? You own none of the bits from the program. You just own a license to USE the software, you don't own it. I think that LFS skins are much the same thing. You have a license to use them in the context of the game (be able to see other driver's skins), but you don't own the skins.

For the record: people who use someone else's skin without permission, people who use a team skin without belonging to that team, etc., are jerks.

But while we're on the subject: how many of you people who are so vigorously defending the IP rights of the skin creator also have a large collection of (unpaid-for) MP3s on your hard drive? I may be wrong but I suspect there is a bit of hypocrisy going on here. Anyone?

Cheers,
--Jason.

PS: for the record, I don't download MP3s either.

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For the record: people who use someone else's skin without permission, people who use a team skin without belonging to that team, etc., are jerks.

But while we're on the subject: how many of you people who are so vigorously defending the IP rights of the skin creator also have a large collection of (unpaid-for) MP3s on your hard drive? I may be wrong but I suspect there is a bit of hypocrisy going on here. Anyone?

Cheers,
--Jason.

PS: for the record, I don't download MP3s either.

There is always hypocrisy going on when people talk about this. If I said that 90% of LFS players have used/do use illegal software I would think I'm pretty right with it. Luckily there is almost always a free program for it, so there is pretty much no excuse for it. People who use illegal versions of programs I have paid for, piss me off to some degree.

Using teamskins without team-membership is just not worth it. It just have to be looked at this way: how many could wear the Hell'sAngels colors, participate in a bikerally and not get some (seriously) bad karma?

Another issue is the thing about copyrights. It actually is an issue with our world-wide society and the perspect of individuals. Everyone has to get somekind of "reward" from the stuff they've created, or at least no-one else should gain from the works that I've done, without me getting "whats rightly mine". I don't deny those things. I admit that it bothers me a lot, if someone "uses my ideas or creations" and takes all the credit. That just sucks. I'm a lot less negative, if the (ab)user atleast give me credits for my original work (don't care that much about money ).

What I'm trying to say, is that skins can be modifed or "sampled", if the credits for original creation(s) is given. Ofcourse if someone says "don't" then don't. Not a biggie, not the end of the world.

Kind of like in sample-based music... Besides, everything has already been invented and created

It's only a game, get a life guys. Arguing about car skins...sheesh!

Quote from SkyNet :

It's only a game, get a life guys. Arguing about car skins...sheesh!

Hey! just because you have a life and we don't there's no need to rub our noses in it!

Quote from SkyNet :

It's only a game, get a life guys. Arguing about car skins...sheesh!

Just skins, in which some people have used hours or days. Great arguments, skynet!

Quote from SkyNet :

It's only a game, get a life guys.

(Totally stealing this thread, or atleast trying )

Now how was it...

Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family, Choose a funky big television, Choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players, and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol and dental insurance. Choose fixed-interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisure wear and matching luggage. Choose a three piece suite on hire purchase in a range of fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing sprit-crushing game shows, stuffing junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing you last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, f***ed-up brats you have spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life.

I chose not to choose life, I chose...............