why would he even test these he should know that its a complete waste of time
not that testing audio equipment by listening to it outside of a very well controlled environment is the least bit meaningful but thats an entirely different can of worms
it sounds better to your ears is a completely different measurement than saying the sound is measurably better
and if you did the same kind of horrid distortions the whole vinyl process does to the sound to the data comming from the cd i can guarantee you you wouldnt be able to tell the difference in a double blind test
so basically what youre saying here is decades worth of scientific study are less accurate than you ears?
sod off if all you have to contribute is calling others ****s
For Bob's sake... make a thread in the technical section or the "way more offtopic forum" and call it "shot vs. the others" or soften your skin with a hammer.
This is the post your last purchase thread and not the "you are so stupid and prooved it by buying this junk".
Unless you're looking at it completely scientifically (and given that audio quality is mostly a human experience) I think listening in an environment you're familiar with isn't meaningless. On the contrary, what's the point in having reproduction equipment that sounds good in an anechoic chamber or whatever? Now that would be a pointless experiment.
I know people who try this sort of thing out with various categories of gear (I know one guy who has tested just about every studio compressor ever built) and typically they do it in their own studio, where it's convenient. Are you saying that this kind of testing is useless?
Okay so you guys make good points. Though, you seem to misunderstand each other, whether it's intentional or not. You've been having a nice argument here and surprise: All of you won!
Sure true objectivity is harder when you know what you're comparing, but then you could argue that there's no point comparing anything without laboratory conditions. Why try a new kind of coffee from the supermarket unless you can set up a double-blind test, etc.
I think you've gone a bit walnuts and sledgehammers with this, to be honest.
maybe but to run with your example there isnt a whole industry built around marketing expensive beans to stupid people
i guess theres these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_Luwak and no matter how good it might taste youre still drinking something that came out of an animals arse but the vast majority of coffee (and indeed most other products) wont break your bank and to stick to coffee when you consider it had to be shipped halfway round the globe youll find it has a ridiculously low profit margin compared to audiophile equipment
whereas on the other hand you have audio equipment containing electronics you could pick up for a couple of bucks and solder them together yourself sold for hundreds if not thousands
and even if there were or is a measurable difference in the products it usually bears zero correlation to the pricing
also im fairly certain if you actually took the time to do the measurements youd probably be able to find that for every single component in your audio setup with the possible exception of the speaker enclosures theres a replacement model from china that either contains exactly the same pcbs as the one you bought or causes an either impossble to measure or at least inaudible degradation for a tenths or hundredths of the price
someone also meantioned earlier in this thread that there are apparently people who believe that scratching cds in a certain pattern will make them sound better or that cd demagnetizer which assuming its not a joke product im sure someone out there has spent money on
first of all its clear that you could sell anything to these people no matter how ridiculous and secondly to tie this back into the claim that cds sound worse clearly this highlights that people havent got the faintest idea how any of their audio equipment actually works
to conclude and summarize when buying coffee your observation bias wont cost you hundreds or thousands of euros in stupidity tax
Ohh for christs sake, get that sand out of your vagina already. Insults... pfff! You're the one who called me an idiot if i may remind you.
And we're at the same point again... i would have liked to further discuss the topic, since it's actually an interesting one. But i see you're still in the same old mood of yours, so i'm not even going to bother.
Shoei RF1000 helmet. My head stopped growing so I thought I would spend some money on a good helmet. Not sure what to think about the design but it was on sale.
