Quote from Rtsbasic :

Firefox has come a long way from where it started. I switched to it from Mozilla,

Mozilla is firefox.

I do use it from time to time though, solely because of the plugins/addons that are available.

I have at the moment...

Fast Video Download,

Orbit Downloader,

Unplug,

VideoGet.


Using one or more of those, i can download any video from any site anywhere on the internet, which is useful. I have yet to encounter a video that i cannot download.

Quote from danthebangerboy :

Mozilla is firefox.

No it's not - Mozilla is a "suite" with a browser based from the same thing as Firefox + eMail + IRC built in.

Largely redundant with the extensions built into Firefox tbh.

I used to love Firefox, but Chome won me over with it's speed and all-round nice-ness.

Still use Firefox on the eee, though, as Chrome randomly freezes when the 900 MHz Celeron can't keep up.

I was just going by my icon that says mozilla firefox. I wasn't aware that mozilla and firefox were seperate things.

I do use chrome most of the time, as its fast as hell. If i wanna download a video i have to take a trip to FF though.

Mozilla is the foundation that owns and runs Firefox. They used to make a development suite called Mozilla, of which Firefox was an offshoot, but that has now been renamed SeaMonkey. Mozilla itself was an open-source implementation of Netscape, which was itself derived from Mosaic. It's all rather complicated. But these days, Mozilla is just the company that owns and pays for Firefox.

I bet if they started to make people pay, say $9.99 for Firefox people wouldn't be so quick to praise it...

Quote from DarkTimes :

Mozilla is the foundation that owns and runs Firefox. They used to make a development suite called Mozilla, of which Firefox was an offshoot, but that has now been renamed SeaMonkey. Mozilla itself was an open-source implementation of Netscape, which was itself derived from Mosaic. It's all rather complicated. But these days, Mozilla is just the company that owns and pays for Firefox.

Isn't Mozilla the makers of Netscape's?

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

I bet if they started to make people pay, say $9.99 for Firefox people wouldn't be so quick to praise it...

Same with Chrome, Opera, Safari, Internet Exploder, Netscape... Fortunately all browsers are free (that I know of), and as such can be compared directly.

If your bike cost you £7,000,000 to fix it you wouldn't be quick to run to it's defense either.

Quote from Feffe85 :

Isn't Mozilla the makers of Netscape's?

Yes(ish). It's complicated.

Mozilla was Netscape, until Netscape was bought up by AOL. Then the guys from Netscape leased all their code as open-source, under the name Mozilla. AOL went on to use the open-source Mozilla code for Netscape 6 and 7, until it was discontinued. So, Netscape turned into Mozilla, basically.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Same with Chrome, Opera, Safari, Internet Exploder, Netscape... Fortunately all browsers are free (that I know of), and as such can be compared directly.

If your bike cost you £7,000,000 to fix it you wouldn't be quick to run to it's defense either.

Hmm, I see what you say.. but then again if say, 1,000,000 people stand by Firefox as being "the best browser ever", I'm pretty certain if it became a piece of software you had to pay for, 60% of those 1,000,000 people would find alternative browsers, with the people that actually know the difference between a 'good' and a 'bad' browser are staying (If they think Firefox was good enough in the first place)

Most of the people who say Firefox is awesome have no idea why, when you ask them they go quiet for 10 minutes while they quickly google why some person on the internet things, so they can say it as if it were their opinion.

What about the case when ALL browsers cost money (the same amount)? I'd wager that the number of people in any given browser would stay roughly the same, although IE's share would drop (and be spread across the other browsers in their order of popularity).

Just like if all mopeds cost £50 but Aprilias cost £1,000,000 each. Do you think people would stick with Aprilia? No, I don't either.

Yup, you're correct there!

Although I think IE's market share would increase because it'd come bundled whenever you buy a new PC with Windoze... and the majority of the "FF keyboard warrior crew" are just children that are really none the wiser. !


But seriously, I don't see what the whole fuss is about browsers... they browse the net... that's what they're designed to do so as long as they do that, isn't that what matters?

Crome FTW. FF is nice and all, but crome is just way nicer. I like the layout better, plus I've never gotten a pop up in the time I've been using it (I think the second day it was released is when I started). With FF, however, I'd rather just get the pop up than the thing warning me about the pop up. For some reason, I could never X that box out, and if I was watching a video and a pop up came, it would crash. The only problem I've ever had with crome is trying to watch videos from Fox's web browser (I had to watch Lie to Me, great show BTW, on Hulu rather than fox's site).

the only reason IE is "popular" is because those stupid M$ jerks bundle it with their other crappy software called windows.
IE users must enjoy removing spyware from their computers on a very regular basis.

Quote from asbjoern :

fail, it is exploder

I prefer Exploiter

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

I bet if they started to make people pay, say $9.99 for Firefox people wouldn't be so quick to praise it...

I agree with all of your comments on this thread, and also with obsolum.

I love the idea of paying for a browser (every of them), just so people would actually compare browsers instead of spreading preconceptions and myths of things they don't know on the internet otherwise they would be wasting their money.

I would love even more if the price was about USD £29.99 or even higher, because the more expensive a product is, the more people will think, search and actually compare before purchasing or saying anything stupid about it.

This video ad/song/whatever couldn't be more ridiculous: look at their "statistics" ! It's pure BS. They aren't trying to make people download a browser, they criticizing people and making a flame war! They are saying "we are better than you because we use Firefox". They are saying "we have a better life than you because of FF", "we'll be successful in life and you won't, just because of FF", etc. I have no words to describe the ridiculousness, gayness and nerdness of this. These people have no life. I think Firefox can't get any worse.

Quote from obsolum :

That's an understatement. Though I wouldn't know how to put it otherwise FF is crappy subpar sorry excuse for a browser...

Subpar? What on earth is your par? :eek:

It works, it's quick, it's stable and it adheres to web standards so it's OK to develop in. It's also got an excellent range of plugins so can be a very powerful app. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it as a piece of software.

Quote from obsolum :

At all. And what I really hate with a passion, is the fanatic - almost extremist - Firefox religion that's so bloody abundant everywhere.

So by that same principle I presume you don't use LFS either?

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

Although I think IE's market share would increase because it'd come bundled whenever you buy a new PC with Windoze... and the majority of the "FF keyboard warrior crew" are just children that are really none the wiser. !

It's mainly the people who make the internet work actually. Anyone who works in web development knows that FF has always been good to work with, whereas IE just makes life difficult. And that ultimately delays progress.

I think it's now law for PCs to come with an alternative browser preinstalled. My new PC came with Firefox. Makes no difference to me anyway, since I use Opera