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The one thing that will be interesting is how the RB's rear suspension compares to the 2-layer diffusers. Personally I hope very well
Quote from wild :No it wouldn't really work, it's mostly designed for long straights and gaining an advantage passing others.

If they press it coming out of the slow corners they would end up spinning it I think.

IIRC KERS can only be deployed above a certain speed, 100km/h I believe. I think traction would be a bigger issue below that speed anyway (as you suggested).
Quote from Joris :IIRC KERS can only be deployed above a certain speed, 100km/h I believe. I think traction would be a bigger issue below that speed anyway (as you suggested).

Long time ago Heidfeld said it can not be used under 100 km/h. But that might be just BMW's system because there is no rule forbidding use under 100 km/h. But in practice, traction is of course limited.
#29 - 5haz
HEHEHEH If you found here Kubcia on pole send me PM OK ?
http://notari.tv/ yes this is Monte Carlo Webcam 1min refreshing

Anyway i want sunny and Brawn GP on pole.
Quote from deggis :there is no rule forbidding use under 100 km/h.

Not going to bother looking for quotes, but at least twice this season I've heard the (BBC) commentators say something to the effect that there's more to it at the starts than traction limiting its use.

edit: hell, I went ahead and looked,
Quote from Peter Windsor :the systems can be charged before the pit lane opens (meaning that everyone will still drive slowly onto the grid, as before, but they can be “launched” when a car reaches 100kph (60mph).

Paragraph 7, http://www.hiltonracing.com/ne ... r-windsor---2009-preview/
Kers cars with heavy drivers are going to struggle on monaco,

Red Bull are using the Double defuser for this race so Brawn should be scared.
#34 - 5haz
Quote from gezmoor :Who's willing to bet that they'll "trial" it with Jensons car and risk his current WDC standing??

Nah, I don't think they're that stupid.
They'd have to give it to Rubens first to see if it's worth using. Shoehorning it in won't be a five minute job, and it could make the thing a lot slower.
#36 - DeKo
Quote from Mustafur :Kers cars with heavy drivers are going to struggle on monaco,

Red Bull are using the Double defuser for this race so Brawn should be scared.

wont really matter, downforce isnt important in monaco, its all about mechanical grip.
#37 - 5haz
For the most part yeah, but I'd imagine some sections such as the tunnel and the first part of the Swinning Pool Chicane probrably require a fair bit of aero grip.

Isn't it something like around 80mph where aerodynamics become truly effective?

Also I'm sure Monaco has a fair few bumps (did they ever flatten out that massive one on the downhill run from Casino Square?), I wonder how much this disrupts the underfloor aerodynamics of the cars?
Quote from DeKo :wont really matter, downforce isnt important in monaco, its all about mechanical grip.

if that was true then why do they all run a max downforce set up year in year out here.

this track is about both actually.
Quote from NotAnIllusion :Not going to bother looking for quotes, but at least twice this season I've heard the (BBC) commentators say something to the effect that there's more to it at the starts than traction limiting its use.

edit: hell, I went ahead and looked,

Paragraph 7, http://www.hiltonracing.com/ne ... r-windsor---2009-preview/

Iono. But there is no regulation saying it can not be used under 100 km/h. Maybe the standard ECU has a setting/restriction, so practically it would be a kind of a rule.
Brawn has to fuel both drivers really light to make sure they are on the front row so that they won't be stuck behind slower cars like Vettel like last race.
Just when you think Spain has to be the worst race this season Monaco pops its head around the corner.
Quote from sil3ntwar :Just when you think Spain has to be the worst race this season Monaco pops its head around the corner.

Guess you didn't see last year then, Argubly one of the best Monaco GPs ever.
Quote from Mustafur :Guess you didn't see last year then, Argubly one of the best Monaco GPs ever.

But how high is the chance of rain this year?
#45 - wild
Quote from Mustafur :No idea whats the forcast?

The Monaco Grand Prix weather forecast indicates we’re not going to have a repeat of last year’s heavy rain this time.

Meteo France, official suppliers of weather forecasts to the F1 teams, predicts three days of dry running, though Saturday and Sunday will be cloudy.

The European weather rainfall radar shows no signs of rain in the region over the coming days either.

According to Weather Underground temperatures will be in the low 20s (C) on all three days. It does point to a very slim chance (20%) of rain on Sunday, but the safe bet at this stage is for three days of dry running.

Source:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/200 ... nd-prix-weather-forecast/
We had rain in most races this year though. Will the rain credits run out?
Not most. Two of five races is not "most", and both of those races were in Asia.

Monaco had rain last year though. I'd be interested to see how things will turn out if there is rain this time around, with low-downforce cars and KERS.
Quote from samjh :Not most. Two of five races is not "most", and both of those races were in Asia.

Monaco had rain last year though. I'd be interested to see how things will turn out if there is rain this time around, with low-downforce cars and KERS.

Then agian it seemed every race last year rained, which was the reason it was soo good, imo this year with such huge changes will be intresting enough, with high chances of safety car and the ability to pit while its out now means things can still be intresting.
Quote from Mustafur :Then agian it seemed every race last year rained, which was the reason it was soo good, imo this year with such huge changes will be intresting enough, with high chances of safety car and the ability to pit while its out now means things can still be intresting.

But passing is impossible. :S

Well, I just expect nothing and be all the happier if it actually turns out to be a decent race.
With current front wings... Passing is like snow in June.

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