Quote from Ball Bearing Turbo :

Really?

I knew of course that it cools the charge seriously, but I would've thought that the oxygen present would also burn... It decomposes into N and O at 300-575 degrees (big range, 300 is for N20 under pressure) and a quick glance at an MSDS reveleals that it highly supports combustion, presumable because of all that oxygen being released with high temperatues involved in combustion.... Pretty sure that both effects are present and contribute to the extra power.

Correct me if I am wrong

Yes, the oxygen does have an effect as everyone knows, but the evaporation of the N2O lowers the charge temperature, making it all nice and denser and reducing the risk of detonation (until you raise compression ratios or use more aggressive ignition timing to take advantage of this).

Quote from ajp71 :

Well drifiting could be removed from that list, I don't want to start another drift vs. race arguement. As for other things, the Papy/nK engine could have had ramps, autocross areas, drift setups, rallycross added to them with ease, they chose not to as they wanted to remain on the straight and narrow circuit sim. Without these side shows they escaped the average ricer turning up and asking for super turbo boost.

Mhh... I wonder how drifting could be removed. You've got a car with RWD (or AWD), you've got bends and hairpins and you've got quite a realistic simulation. I mean I've even drifted in NR2003 (Papy ) for fun. And these cars were not really suitable for such abuse.

I agree on the ramps, they not really needed. But I don't really care about them, as they are okay for clowning around. But I disagree that autocross and rallycross attracts only the average ricer. As the devs want to simulate a wide range of racing, there must be rallycross and autocross. And maybe there will even be pure rally and kart racing at one point. That's how they want their game

But drag racing could be removed. As long as we don't have the possibility to jump start.

Quote from tristancliffe :

How about it's not the extra oxygen in Nitrous Oxide that makes it produce more power, but a lowered of the thermodynamic temperature - in effect it's just very efficient charge cooling.

WHICH in turn makes the air more dense which IS extra oxygen.

And, at 300C the nitrous splits into oxygen and nitrogen. The extra oxygen makes the fuel mixture more lean, and then the O2 sensors in the exaust manifold sense more oxygen, and add more fuel.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Yes, the oxygen does have an effect as everyone knows, but the evaporation of the N2O lowers the charge temperature, making it all nice and denser and reducing the risk of detonation (until you raise compression ratios or use more aggressive ignition timing to take advantage of this).

Right.

Just when you said "not the extra oxygen that...." I thought you were saying that it didn't have any effect, but that was my wrong presumption.

You see, I was answering the question "Ok Whos Gona Be Next In Telling Us Bs About Nos?", so I did.

I'd rather not get into a technical discussion about Nitrous Oxide for two reasons 1. My knowledge of it runs out pretty quickly after this and 2. It's not a motorsport product and therefore has little or no context in a racing sim.

That lrdbsi is certainly a personality. I mean, he makes a couple of posts and gets banned, waits until his ban is over and posts again and gets banned, again and again... Expect some bad post again after few weeks

Or is it just sad...?

Quote from tristancliffe :

I'd rather not get into a technical discussion about Nitrous Oxide for two reasons 1. My knowledge of it runs out pretty quickly after this and 2. It's not a motorsport product and therefore has little or no context in a racing sim.

There's a flaw in your logic. Drag racing is a form of Motorsport and the NHRA recognizes and allows the use of nitrous.

Lol, and I had a headache, and couldn't face a second time

Seems like a pointless enough place to do this... Forgive me...

99

So, one more to go to break the magic barrier of e-penis stardom, am I rite?

100

:balloons: :smileyrai


Sorry had to do it

hmmm, should I lecture you about spam

Bait out, lets see who's first to catch

^ See, that's how you disguise spam

Gotcha

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I'm a bit of a Rice N00b. If I fix a BOV to my NOS will it help me drift easier?

No, but if you put a vinyl on your brakepads, it will make them sticker and therefore reduce brake distance. And remember, the later you brake, the longer you're fast.

This thread has gotten out of hand!

Quote from tristancliffe :

hmmm, should I lecture you about spam

Bait out, lets see who's first to catch

Nah I know all about spam, but I would like to hear your thoughts on posting unnecessarily

Quote from AndroidXP :

So, one more to go to break the magic barrier of e-penis stardom, am I rite?

You had to post this before the 100 got there eh?

Come to think of it I did notice a difference...

Quote from al heeley :

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I'm a bit of a Rice N00b. If I fix a BOV to my NOS will it help me drift easier?

now thats a stereotype for ya!

Quote from Ball Bearing Turbo :

100

800 :balloons: :smileyrai

[size]yeah, I know...[/size]

This thread first started with a demoer asking for NOS, and now its about post counts. Who wants to discuss current events? (i dont)

Well, I just wanted to make a post and say that I don't have anything to say...:drink:

But it still adds to the post count, right...?

Quote from ajp71 :

Not entirely true, use to be used in hillclimbing, historic Shelsley Walsh anybody? (thinks of Nick Mann's tubrocharged, nitrous injected Rover V8 Morris Minor )

saw that run a couple of times at loton park hill climb

creapy on a damp track as it was soooo quiet

remember autocar testing it in an early incarnation when it was on road and on standard moggie wheels and tyres !!!! it outran a ferrari (512 i think) ove the standing 1/4

imagine if he did that to you when your trying to pose in your shiney red ferrari in the middle of a city with all the people watching and laughing at you

mind you i remember peter windsor when he was gp correspondent saying how walter wolf's countach got blown away by a chevy van in L.A.

Quote from tristancliffe :

hmmm, should I lecture you about spam

Bait out, lets see who's first to catch

Hormel developed America's first canned ham (''Hormel Flavor-Sealed Ham'') in 1926, and eleven years later developed the first canned meat product that did not require refrigeration. It was a ''distinctive chopped pork shoulder and ham mixture'' developed by Jay C. Hormel, son of Hormel founder George A. Hormel, and marketed as ''Hormel Spiced Ham'' - not a terribly inspiring name for an innovative product fated to save lives, win wars, and balance diets of people world wide.
Hormel Spiced Ham got off to a slightly rocky start. Other meatpackers began to introduce their own canned luncheon meats, and Hormel lost its controlling share of the market. Soon, however, they came up with a cunning plan to rectify this situation - they would give Hormel's luncheon meat a truly catchy name. Toward this end, they offered $100 for a suitable appellation. The winning name was, of course, ''SPAM'', and a legend was born.

Quote from AndroidXP :

And remember, the later you brake, the longer you're fast.

This would be a nice signature