Quote from george_tsiros :

yeah one is free to say whatever he wants

Free from the government stopping you from saying whatever you want, not free from others stopping you.

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When I said freedom of speech, it was in referrence to the fightroom, not here.

scroll up and pay attention, FFS that's what got me in this spot to begin with which I learned from now, as I am also going to pay more attention from here on out. I learn from my mistakes, don't make the same ones man, just a tip to save you stress.

I have no idea what the fightroom is. But what I do know is that I don't like people telling me that I think a certain way.

Quote from Pablo Donoso :

Are Americans evil because we eat cows? No, it is only wrong to muslims because they were taught to believe that eating cows is wrong. Does that make it wrong? No it is only wrong by personal belief, it does not make them a better person because they don't eat cows.

Umm us muslims eat cows, we don't eat pigs... Just shows how these types of comments/racism comes from ignorance...

Quote from Pablo Donoso :

I apologize for the link to that video, and for anyone that took it seriously.

I won't apologize because of other people's inability to read in full, their lack of comprehension on what they are reading, or for the followers that have no clue as to what's going on and yet feel the need to pass judgement while being clueless as to what was initially stated TO BEGIN WITH.

hummer xD oh man, hummer, I just said nobody is wrong for what they believe, at the same time, that also doesn't make it right. Do you see the logic in that statement?

Quote from evilpimp :

Umm us muslims eat cows, we don't eat pigs... Just shows how these types of comments/racism comes from ignorance...

mai bad you're right, my close friend Aliana always gets grossed out when Im eating bacon, and she's muslim. She always tells me though that cows are like sacred animals and lots of afghanis look down on americans for it. my mistake on the cows because it's not first hand knowledge, but for the sake of debating, I have to leave it unchanged to show that since you pointed it out.

Quote from Pablo Donoso :

@ hummer xD oh man, hummer, I just said nobody is wrong for what they believe, at the same time, that also doesn't make it right. Do you see the logic in that statement?

It's irrelevant whether or not I see logic in that statement. You told me that I believe swearing is wrong. That is false. You told me that I am "only following what I was taught to believe," yet I doubt you know what I was taught, and what I believe. I could care less whether you think I'm wrong for what I believe. It's the fact that you're telling me that I believe something that I don't like.

Cows sacred. Thats a new one for me as a muslim too lol. Never looked down on anyone for eating cows, I eat 'em everyday!

replaced with "derp" lol

Sorry, sometimes I'm verbally expressive in things I was taught to believe, because we are all taught to fight for what we believe in.

Quote from Pablo Donoso :

lol you guys missed to point completely @ amp & hummer. I already apologized, now I'm just pointing out why I condone something you both obviously don't because you believe swearing is wrong.

I've already said I don't think swearing is wrong but you persist in telling me I do think it's wrong. That's not gonna work...unless you're dangling a chain or a necklace and telling me I'm sleepy. I'm OK with swearing itself, I do it myself. Some people say those who swear have a small vocabulary, but I disagree. Sometimes the most appropriate or descriptive thing you can say is a good swear word. What I do think is wrong, however, is enjoying shouting racism and other vulgarities at other people across the internet. The fact you're a member of such a forum and you think that you should share it with another group of people just astounds me. Then you say "I didn't know I shouldn't post hate stuff" and you refer to LFS as a "non-hate" forum, as though a lot of forums encourage and thrive on the posting of material containing people shouting hatred at each other.

Quote from amp88 :

That's not gonna work...unless you're dangling a chain or a necklace and telling me I'm sleepy.

Just as a point of interest, the hypnotism thing doesn't work by telling someone they feel sleepy. Can't get the buggers into a hypnotic state that way. Bizarrely, hypnotic trances are heightened but subconscious states of awareness. Strange but true. (I've been studying hypnotism, btw. Can you tell? )

Back on topic, I don't swear around people I don't know. Rightly or wrongly, a propensity for swearing suggests the individual has a small lexicon.

The expectation on people to refrain from swearing is societal. If you live in society, as most of us do, it's expected that you will refrain from swearing. Of course the internet gives small-minded people the opportunity to wear big anonymous boots and carry virtually big sticks. This is an avenue often pursued by repressed teenagers, desperately seeking to assert their own individuality.

The truth of the matter is that these people generally don't behave this way, away from the internet, among people they don't know - dinner parties etc. They refrain from using profanities, uttering racial slurs and abuse etc. Unless the segment of society they exist within is regressive, run-down inner city etc, where social expectations are near non-existent.

But yeah, most of us live in societies where expectations exist. Don't assume that everyone should believe that we should break the chains of these oppressive societies. Most of us are quite happy living in societies. We get sanitation, streets, street lighting, electricity/gas delivered and we get money for towing the society line and holding down a job - money which we spend on X-Boxes, PS3s and cars. We're happy. So we're expected (perhaps even required) not to hurl racial abuse at each other in public, but in the great scheme of things it's not really much of a price to pay.