hi,
i would like a car for a project to eventually take to trackdays i would like
-something rwd/awd
-something reasonably sized i dont want something tiny or something huge
-lots of aftermarket parts available

ive looked at vauxhall chevvetes westfield caterham etc escort mk2 mk1

EDIT: Doesnt have to be in mint condition as it will be stripped and sprayed.
around 1000 to spend would prefer really cheap as parts will cost a lot

Quote from brt900 :

hi,
i would like a car for a project to eventually take to trackdays i would like
-something rwd/awd
-something reasonably sized i dont want something tiny or something huge
-lots of aftermarket parts available

ive looked at vauxhall chevvetes westfield caterham etc escort mk2 mk1

Some Toyota Supra or MR2 ?

nissan silvia S14?

my dad reckons there crap because there japenease id have a mk1 mr2 i found a mr2 racing car for £2400 but dad said no

why does your dad reckon they're crap because there japanese.
What do you mean by crap, my brother has an s14 thats 350bhp and goes round the nurburgring in under 7 minutes, overtaking porsche GT2s and GT3RS, now why is that crap? It also weighs under 1 tonne, and is easily capable of running much more power.

Beemer
Sierra
Granada (RWD?)

lol i would go for something easly repairable

i dont know what parts are easy to sorce for u but i would susjest a escort they should be easy to find parts for prolly a escort with a sr20det.

i made my first track day car a commen car with a RB30ET in it and wish i started with a 32 GTR.

one thing i found funny i watched a datto 1600 lap 1 sec slower then the ULTIMA GTR with NOS


mind u the datto driver was bloody good and the gtr's driver sucked

still thinking BMW E30 or Nissan Silvia S14 or S15 with 2.0L turbo engines capable of 600bhp sensibly.

Being Japanese probably means it isn't 'crap'. They're so reliable, which means you won't be spending money keeping it running, and will be able to spend money making it go faster/better.

An old Escort, for example, will cost a grand per year just to keep it running at all. Where's the fun in that?

Quote from tristancliffe :

Being Japanese probably means it isn't 'crap'. They're so reliable, which means you won't be spending money keeping it running, and will be able to spend money making it go faster/better.

An old Escort, for example, will cost a grand per year just to keep it running at all. Where's the fun in that?

lol thanks for adding to my point
dunno why some people think japanese is crap, when it's actually not really. its cheap fast fun.

people who dont know anything about cars say that, mind you

Quote from harjun :

lol thanks for adding to my point
dunno why some people think japanese is crap, when it's actually not really. its cheap fast fun.

id have one i love japenease/import but its my dad and there pretty expensive and aftermarket parts are too.

anyone know where i can get some aftermarket part catologues i have the motorsport and tuning demon tweek catologues

Quote from brt900 :

id have one i love japenease/import but its my dad and there pretty expensive and aftermarket parts are too.

anyone know where i can get some aftermarket part catologues i have the motorsport and tuning demon tweek catologues

company called driftwords
www.driftworks.com
they stock lots of amazing stuff for S14s, and by the way they arent expensive for what they are, my brothers is faster than £100k porshes and he's spent about half of that much money on his.
You can also get UK spec S14s, called 200SX, but import is normally better because they dont salt the roads in japan meaning generally less rust on the car.

i priced it up for my dads corsa b £1403 this is the excel sheet please feel free to price it up for a different car i used the sheet attached i didnt do brakes as i could find a decent price or engine as i couldnt find a good red top


http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zxdwcoym4y2

the bigest problem i found with making a track day project car is nearly all of the parts become usless. after upgrading my suspension i had to re do the hole lot again to get the car to handle right ended up costing me 2x the price

if u buy a silvia and if its a SR20 u can get away with that engine but you will have to replace

brake disks,pads,suspension,bush's,swaybars,rims,tyres.


ps if u do decided on a silvia i just finished helping race prep my friends the sound deading under the carpet is easyer to remove with dry ice just let it sit on it for a little while and it breaks away easly

Quote from MAD3.0LT :

the bigest problem i found with making a track day project car is nearly all of the parts become usless. after upgrading my suspension i had to re do the hole lot again to get the car to handle right ended up costing me 2x the price

if u buy a silvia and if its a SR20 u can get away with that engine but you will have to replace

brake disks,pads,suspension,bush's,swaybars,rims,tyres.


ps if u do decided on a silvia i just finished helping race prep my friends the sound deading under the carpet is easyer to remove with dry ice just let it sit on it for a little while and it breaks away easly

or you can just remove the sound deadening with an industrial heat gun and a wallpaper scraper.

Obviously all of the discs pads suspension bushs and swaybars etc. need changing to driftworks stuff to make it a good trackday car, and ofcourse the R888s

Quote from harjun :

or you can just remove the sound deadening with an industrial heat gun and a wallpaper scraper.

Obviously all of the discs pads suspension bushs and swaybars etc. need changing to driftworks stuff to make it a good trackday car, and ofcourse the R888s

r888's are pretty damn expensive

Quote from brt900 :

r888's are pretty damn expensive

mate but they make a frikkin hell of a different believe me its basically the first thing you put on a track car!

S14 - £400
coilovers plus arms etc. - £2000
Rims and tyres - £2000
engine stuff (turbo upgrade/intercooler etc./mapping) - £2500

And theres lots of other stuff, if you want a good track car get an S14 because its the cheapest and the fastest.
Forget MX5s and other stuff, those are mostly heavy stuff which are hard to work on, an S14 is a well known car, lots of forums on it lots of people own it, and when you get bored of racing you can always take it for a quick drift too!

dudes, wtf, stop ignoring the OP, you are just posting your own stuff, going on about silvias and skylines, and mods...

If you are suggesting anything, stick to the budget mentioned in the OP.

If you want to go for the corsa, (vw mk2 would be my other suggestion)
start out with the cheaper mods.
If you are in fact going for a track-day-only car, strip it out completely, all the upholstry, door-cards, rear seats, window motors, speakers, etc.
That will already increase the power-to-weight ratio of the car immensely.
Then work your way to uprated bushings, suspension parts you can afford, then brand new brake parts, new discs, uprated pads and such.

And only then start working on the engine.

Quote from harjun :

mate but they make a frikkin hell of a different believe me its basically the first thing you put on a track car!

S14 - £400
coilovers plus arms etc. - £2000
Rims and tyres - £2000
engine stuff (turbo upgrade/intercooler etc./mapping) - £2500

And theres lots of other stuff, if you want a good track car get an S14 because its the cheapest and the fastest.
Forget MX5s and other stuff, those are mostly heavy stuff which are hard to work on, an S14 is a well known car, lots of forums on it lots of people own it, and when you get bored of racing you can always take it for a quick drift too!

thats gunna cost over £7000!!! bloody hell i dont wnt it too be the quickest thing out on tthe track i want a little adrenaline buzz and a racing experience.

i was going to strip it completely if you look at the excel document i posted alink to download a few posts up it shows what parts im gettign and the link to them.
i will be stripping it in a few days:d

Silly tyres would be the LAST thing I bought for a trackday car...

by the way the car wouldnt have to be road legal as it will be trailered to the track

Quote from LFSn00b :

What the hell. According to your profile you're 15, so you shouldn't be let to drive yet?

if i do an ards test and get a national b race licence i can do track days at oulton park without being 17

Quote from brt900 :

i priced it up for my dads corsa b £1403 this is the excel sheet please feel free to price it up for a different car i used the sheet attached i didnt do brakes as i could find a decent price or engine as i couldnt find a good red top


http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zxdwcoym4y2

As I said before replacing the fuel tank is pointless, you will need to spend a lot more on an external fuel pump and piping/connectors than you've budgeted, as I posted in your other thread. You've still got to mount that tank and really need a firewall with that much fuel plus it'll raise your centre of gravity significantly.

The seat needs mounts, they're about £45 to buy if you can't fabricate them yourself and you need two seats as you're required to have an instructor in the car.

You need an adapter for the wheel, about another £25. A quick rack and smaller steering wheel are probably not a good investment for beginning track days, you aren't going to be throwing the car around much on circuits and making the car is as stable as possible is a good idea for you.

Lowering the car by that much will make it far worse to drive, leave it standard to begin with and possibly change anti-roll bars and fit better dampers at a later stage once you've learnt to drive.

Alloy wheels are a waste of time on a track day car, and those ones look stupid with 8 stud holes, there also probably not going to be any lighter than steel wheels.

The tyres you've linked to are not semi-slicks, they are just everyday good road tyres, pretty well suited for your purpose, semi-slicks are a waste of money for non-competitive events.

Quote from ajp71 :

As I said before replacing the fuel tank is pointless, you will need to spend a lot more on an external fuel pump and piping/connectors than you've budgeted, as I posted in your other thread. You've still got to mount that tank and really need a firewall with that much fuel plus it'll raise your centre of gravity significantly.

The seat needs mounts, they're about £45 to buy if you can't fabricate them yourself and you need two seats as you're required to have an instructor in the car.

You need an adapter for the wheel, about another £25. A quick rack and smaller steering wheel are probably not a good investment for beginning track days, you aren't going to be throwing the car around much on circuits and making the car is as stable as possible is a good idea for you.

Lowering the car by that much will make it far worse to drive, leave it standard to begin with and possibly change anti-roll bars and fit better dampers at a later stage once you've learnt to drive.

Alloy wheels are a waste of time on a track day car, and those ones look stupid with 8 stud holes, there also probably not going to be any lighter than steel wheels.

The tyres you've linked to are not semi-slicks, they are just everyday good road tyres, pretty well suited for your purpose, semi-slicks are a waste of money for non-competitive events.

the suspension on the car now is a piece of crap tbh its pretty old. the alloys are wider than current for better tryes the semi slicks where too expensive £70 each so the high performance road tires where a better option. please feel free to adjust the sheet to how you would price it and that goes to everyone please feel free to do it with a different car